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"One-Thousand Baby Chain" to Support 14th Amendment at Arizona Capitol

Phoenix : AZ : USA | Feb 06, 2011 at 7:09 AM PST
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UPDATE, 2/7/2011, 7 PM MST: The AZ Senate Judiciary Committee did NOT pass SB1308 or SB1309. Because the committee did not vote on these two bills, the bills must remain in Committee until they are either amended or ultimately shelved.

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A "One-Thousand Baby Chain" will witness the proceedings when Arizona State Senate President Russell Pearce's anti-14th Amendment legislation goes before the Senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow. The pro-immigrant advocacy group Border Action Network is rallying real children and babies (and illustrated representations for solidarity supporters) to the Capitol to emphasize that a coming generation of babies will be affected by the legislation.

The two Arizona Senate Bills up for consideration--1308 and 1309 --were reputedly authored by the Washington, DC-based group FAIR (the Federation for American Immigration Reform), an organization that pro-immigrant forces consider a "hate group." Opponents say they undermine the birthright citizenship provision of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Children and their advocates will gather from around Arizona at the Senate Building at 1 PM in response to the problems they see with the two bills.

Arizona Senate Bill 1308: Distorts birthright citizenship

SB 1308 would set up a "compact" between Arizona and other states to create a two-tiered system for birth certificates. Critics say that distorts the meaning of the 14th Amendment's birthright citizenship provision. Steven Lemons outlines in the Phoenix New Times that they cite as an example one passage of the bill that reads:

As used in this compact, "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" has the meaning that it bears in section 1 of the fourteenth amendment to the United States Constitution, namely that the person is a child of at least one parent who owes no allegiance to any foreign sovereignty, or a child without citizenship or nationality in any foreign country.

However, the Fourteenth Amendment does not make that reference. It reads:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Pro-immigrant activists say the measure's proponents are twisting the 14th Amendment's phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" to suit their own purposes. The 1866 Senate debate made it clear that the children of foreign nationals -- except those of diplomats -- would become citizens as a result of the amendment.

One hundred years of U.S. Supreme Court precedent has further clarified, since the 14th Amendment's enactment, that the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" refers to children of foreign diplomats who have immunity from U.S. laws and not, for instance, to children born of Chinese nationals, as was the case in the 1898 Supreme Court ruling, United States vs. Wong Kim Ark.

Worse than proposing legal distortions, SB 1308 is itself unconstitutional and illegal, critics charge. According to the 14th Amendment:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

But this is exactly what both the Arizona bills attempt to do: to abridge the privileges of citizens of the United States and deny them equal protection.

Even the language of Arizona's SB 1308 indicates that the proposed compact is essentially meaningless unless the U.S. Congress agrees to it:

This compact shall not take effect until the United States congress has given its consent pursuant to article I, section 10, clause 3 of the United States Constitution.

Arizona Senate Bill 1309: Establishes empty "Arizona citizenship"

Similarly, Arizona's SB 1309 sets up a non-existent "Arizona citizenship" in an attempt to prevent children of undocumented immigrants, commonly termed "anchor babies," from becoming Arizona citizens. But 1309's last sentence admits that the "Arizona citizenship" designation is essentially empty:

Citizenship of the state of Arizona shall not confer upon the holder thereof any right, privilege, immunity or benefit under law.

With time and resources limited in any legislative session, opponents of Arizona's SB 1308 and 1309 question the legislature's wisdom in pursuing such questionable legal efforts. Meanwhile, they say, a generation of babies hangs in the balance. So opponents will bus babies from Tucson to Phoenix for the deliberations tomorrow to remind lawmakers of just that.

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Arizona news video from June 2010: Arizona State Senator Russell Pierce explains the reasoning which led to Arizona SB 1308 and SB 1309.

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Posted By Coarsegold Coarsegold | over 1 year ago
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was mainly to ensure that all freed slaves were considered legal citizens. The children born of legal immigrants to the U.S. really didn't have a problem. Of course, Congress at that time could not envision what happens now on our southern border. And, I admit, that it is disingenuous for a Mexcican woman to cross the border into the U.S. to have her baby, thereby making that child a legal U.S. citizen. And, yes, that does happen.

However, the only way to end that practice or the fact that undocumented immigants have babies in the U.S., making those children legal U.S. citizens, is to amend the U.S. Constitution. That is, if we still want the Constitution to mean anything. No law passed by the Arizona legislature with consent given by Congress can nullify the 14th Amendment. Such an amendment would have to state that only the children born in the U.S. to immigrants who are legally in this nation can be considered legal citizens. Or, if the "I'm afraid of foreigners taking over America" crowd wants to take it further, then the amendment could state that only children of legal U.S. citizens will be considered legal U.S. citizens.

Personally, I'm not afraid that the Mexican immigrants, legal or otherwise, are going to harm this nation. But one way to severely curtail the "illegal immigration" problem is to go after the employers who hire them.

The violence surrounding this issue, which seems to be a major part of the Arizona government's rationale, is a direct result of the War on Drugs. Fix that problem and the violence goes away. (see http://dowehaverights.blogspot.com to see why the WOD is a rights-violating and harmful policy.) Then the immigrants will be here for one purpose, and one purpose only, jobs. And those are mainly jobs that most native-born Americans don't or won't do. I mean, how many Anglos have you seen or do you know, working out in the fields and orchards?
Reply By birdpond Cathy Taibbi | over 1 year ago
Sadly, I fear this nation has already been harmed; from whence it stems, I know not, but a simple look around makes it obvious we're in a tailspin.

Prayers for the future . . . and anyone (human or non-human) getting caught in the crossfire.
Reply By MountainHome MountainHome | over 1 year ago
Well said. Excellent reply.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | over 1 year ago
You've introduced many points to the discussion, Coarsegold--and I hope others will respond to them. I'll limit myself to a huge agreement with your assessment that a state legislature can't address this issue. It would require a Constitutional amendment. It's counterproductive for Arizona to waste time on this measure. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Posted By ahol888 Adrian Holman | over 1 year ago
BorderExplorer, State Sen. Russell Pearce must be a sign of the Apocalypse. Nobody can intentionally be that dense every day. Why do the people of Arizona continue to vote for this muppet?
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | over 1 year ago
Now tell us how you *really* feel, Adrian! ;-)
(But watch out for a certain Allvoices troll who just may show up on this report!)
Posted By MaxHaul MaxHaul | over 1 year ago
Many states including the District of Columbia enacted laws after the 14A was adopted to deny citizenship to alien babies. This isn't anti-14th Amendment legislation but pro-14th Amendment legislation.
Posted By MaxHaul MaxHaul | over 1 year ago
Many states including the District of Columbia enacted laws after the 14A was adopted to deny citizenship to alien babies. This isn't anti-14th Amendment legislation but pro-14th Amendment legislation.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | over 1 year ago
You refer to the "alien" babies from Mars and Venus? Just kidding! ;-) I see that our perspectives are very different, and I thank you for expressing that in such an even-handed way. This can be a rarity on the immigration topic--and that makes you a stand-out!
Posted By DavaCastillo Dava Castillo | over 1 year ago
Arizona's efforts are no different than the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 which was nullified by the Supreme Court Case you cited Billie, U.S. vrs Wong Kim Ark.

The Constitution won't be amended, and what they are doing in Arizona a waste of time. Last summer Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Jon Kyl embraced the idea; Senate and House GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and John Boehner proposed hearings.

Coursegold gave some solutions and I agree.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | over 1 year ago
The nullification of the Chinese Exclusion Act is a good example of how our nation's limited history of immigration law excludes groups of immigrants and then later includes them.

The waste of legislature time really bothers me too. Add to that the divisiveness that this sort of legislative effort promotes. We the populace become embroiled in argumentation rather than productively tackling the issues that we face together.

Thanks for those comments, Dava.
Reply By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
Grasping at straws MORONes?

We Americans are going to change that law that is why you are crying.
Posted By DavaCastillo Dava Castillo | over 1 year ago
Ultimately, the responsibility falls on the federal government to pass meaningful Immigration Reform that can stiffel piece meal state legislation that are exclusionary and foster prejudice.

Considering the growing voting block of Hispanic voters, it behooves the administration and congress to begin serious legislation.
Posted By catspirit catspirit | over 1 year ago
What an excellent report.Rated up
Posted By mrspleats mrspleats | over 1 year ago
This is bold and I say way to go! There should be no discrimination.

Rated way up!

Have a fab day ! Go Steelers go if you love the Superbowl(lol)
Posted By DebTom DebTom | over 1 year ago
If the 14 Amendment gave citizenship to anyone born on our soil, then it would not have declared the first and most important job of President is to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies and to defend our borders. It would then mean our enemies could enter our borders and their children could become citizens. This is nonsense and stupidity, plain and simple. We don't need to change a thing with our Constitution, we just need people with brains and common sense to enforce it.

I hope there are about 5000 CITIZENS carrying signs stating how much each one of these babies cost the soon to be bankrupt Arizona. It could be very impressive seeing 1000 babies of illegal alien mothers and adding up the cost.
Posted By SteveWarner SteveWarner | over 1 year ago
I totally agree with Dava.
Great share though keep it up.
Posted By ahol888 Adrian Holman | over 1 year ago
Something is seriously wrong with the voters in Arizona. Sen. McCain. Sen. Kyl. State Sen. Pearce. Gov. Brewer. Then, they tried to kill the only good politician they have in Rep. Giffords. Oh yeah, nothing has changed, State Sen. Pearce is still a muppet. He looks like one of the two judges in the balcony.
Reply By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
What you are implying can be used to file a damage suit against you
as it is called DEFAMATION.
I doubt if Arizona leaders who hate crime and violence would do such a thing to a U.S. Congress-member.
Reply By ahol888 Adrian Holman | over 1 year ago
Why are you whining and moaning? He's defaming the US Constitution. When the 14th Amendment was ratified, there were Asian and European immigrants living in the USA at the time. If the Congress at the time wanted to exclude immigrants, then it would have been in the amendment. Somebody needs to buy you a Speak & Spell on your birthday, it's tobacco.
Reply By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
Adrian I've noticed that when a poster feels threatened
or is losing the argument they suddenly become SPELLING COPS!

An American that is attacking illegal immigration threatens you doesn't it idiot? I'll bet Holman is not your real name at all. Probably Garcia or Donkey?
Reply By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
I notice that when a poster is miffed and is losing an argument they become "Spelling Cops".

Face it Birthright citizenship was not the true meaning of the 14th amendment. This was meant for the children of slaves.
Not for every Mexican illegal that wants a free ride.
I can spell my moniker any way I wish idiot.
Posted By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
The 14th amendment to our U.S. Constitution is outdated.
Foreigners like the Mexicans are using this law as a RACKET and
we need to change that law to fit our needs today.

Our forefathers are turning in the graves knowing these Invaders from Mexico and elsewhere are entering and having babies on U.S. soil.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | over 1 year ago
I'm for immigration reform, and I'm against abuses of the system. However, what Russell Pearce is doing won't accomplish anything positive or either of those goals. I don't believe I've seen you comment here before, so welcome to Allvoices, PortTabacco. Let's work together to maintain the values on which our nation was founded.
Posted By Coarsegold Coarsegold | over 1 year ago
tinita1: As to your comment about investing money in Mexico's economy. We already do. It's called the war on drugs. Several billion U.S. dollars helps support the Mexican economy. If that money were to be suddenly withdrawn (imagine how)it is likely that the Mexican economy would collapse. Or, at the very least, things would become much harder on the average Mexican. And, as I have mentioned in the past, I lived in Mexico, among Mexicans, not in Norte Americano enclaves. While most of the people that I met were friendly to me, there was a definite undercurrent of animosity (zenophobia) of us in the U.S.
Reply By tinita1 tinita1 | over 1 year ago
I am not sure that I agree that the Mexican economy would collapse if we were to withdraw funds aimed at fighting drug trafficking--after all, it seems those are funds aimed at helping to maintain national security and not at development(but, I would have to do research to see what exactly those funds are used for).

Other contributors to the Mexican economy seem to be private investment by US companies in certain sectors like manufacturing (autos, electronics). Also, let's not forget remittances.

It seems that both sides can gain from pursuing policies involving increased private and public investment versus enforcement-only. US--decreased unauthorized immigration, **lower costs of labor and administrative costs. Mexico--access to technological knowledge, **higher wages. I've placed an asterisk since there is always the concern of outsourcing by US labor and of inhumane work conditions.
Posted By DavaCastillo Dava Castillo | over 1 year ago
I can understand some animosity against Americans. I wish I could remeber the name of the documentary I saw about a company just over the boarder that was responsible for polluting the water supply of an entire town through lax environmental disposal of waste, and also leaving workers when they closed down without any severance pay or benefits, or cleaning up the toxic materials. So, including low wages the industry provided nothing and exploited the workers.

These American companies do not represent us well in Mexico; therefore, we should extend the benefits to Mexican workers working in American industry in Mexico similar to the benefits American workers have in the U.S.
Reply By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
Animosity against Americans is in the Mexican blood stream!
They have hated Americans ever since they ran these slugs out of the U.S. in the early 1800s.
The Mexicans were even destroying the Spanish missions.
Thank God they were run out. Even the Apaches wanted to help
run them out! That how hated Mexicans were in the U.S.
Posted By ethelsmith ethelsmith | over 1 year ago
That sounds like bad news to me. The Land of the Free?
Reply By PortTabacco PortTabacco | over 1 year ago
Stop twisting things around. Every nation has immigration laws.
Mexico is the most strict.
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