The Glock 19: Gun of Choice for Arizona and Virginia Tech Shooters

What spin, and another example of addressing the symptoms without addressing the problems once again in the liberal mindset. A determined person as has been exhibited in Iraq in the suicide bombings and other means will always succeed simply due to their derangement or belief system. Caesar was assassinated with knives, as I recall, and not by a citizen, but was a political target of his enemies who held high public office. Goliath was slain by a boy using a slingshot.

Just goes to show that the media and politicos are focusing once again on the symptoms in all their posturing and using this for political purposes and gain for their "parties" agendas. Oswald used a simple high scope rifle. In "300" bows and arrows, and swords were the weapons of choice. Scotland fought for independence using spears and rudimentary weapons, since all of their weapons had been confiscated, which is what led to Scotlands citizens fighting back for independence from such tyranny.

Don't you think our Congress has its hands already full with all the legislation it has passed that has created more and more unrest in this country by the day, month and year? And if it isn't clear by now, the unrest is escalating in leaps and bounds - since insane or not, this man chose a political target which means that there was at least some political intent to his actions clearly, although could have been in this Facebook and Twitter age, simply another who wanted his 15 minutes of fame since it does seem that the media is in a feeding frenzy and has been since Saturday.

Just look what I just bought
A shiny and sinister Glock
I'll have some fun...
leave a Nation stunned
now watch the pundits talk!

BAN THE MANUFACTURE, POSSESION AND SALE OF HANDGUNS TO ALL!

Their only purpose is to kill people and the thin excuse that it is a right to have one to defend yourself has only lead to civil mayhem and fear. This remnant of the "wild west" and America's past has no place in any future "civil" society. It is profiteering fueled by fear and causes only carnage. Perhaps only police should have these weapons as a last resort for stemming violence and crime?

It is all too obvious over the past century they do more harm than good in society.

"Simply put, high-capacity ammunition magazines make mass shootings possible by allowing shooters to fire multiple rounds very quickly without reloading. An effective ban on high-capacity magazines will help prevent tragedies like the one that claimed six lives and wounded numerous others last Saturday,"

Keep thinking that. This is the type of delusional thinking that the gun banners are famous for. All it takes is a little practice and you can change a standard magazine in seconds.

As for banning guns, good luck with that. Over 80 million gun owners in possession of over 250 million guns. Who's going to go around and UNCONSTITUTIONALLY pick them up? The military? The police? Never would happen. Anyone that thinks it ever could is living in some dream world.

Why is no one putting the blame where it belongs, on the dope addict that committed the crime and the sheriff that had been warned and did nothing. This scumbag should have been populating a prison cell instead of worshiping a skull in his parents back yard.

You hoplophobes crack me up. You are more afraid of a inanimate object then you are of losing our Constitutional rights.

Inanimate objects..right. How about hand grenades and dynamite? Just inanimate objects too. Would you feel safer if there were less restrictions on these? Or how about large amounts of fertilizer..good for farming..no sense keeping track of these helpful tools..right?
The Right to bear arms was written into the consititution in a whole different era. America had just fought a war of liberation from the Brits and a standing militia made up of the citizenry of the new-found republic made good sense to defend it...simple flintlocks and powder guns in the homes made good sense at that time. America was also young and sitting on the doorstep of a large frontier...rifles made sense in protecting from harm and for hunting for food. With the bloodbath of the civil war some 90 years later..America sadly indulged it's love of weaponry in an orgy of death revolving around state's rights and the Slavery issue. By the days of the old west the gun (particularly pistol) culture was born with disgruntled survivors of the civil war becoming marauders and "outlaws"..along with psychopaths like Billy the Kid etc. To this day that era is venerated by gun owners and pistol toting cowboys as "the good old days" when in reality they were brutal and mean. Then there was the Gangsters and the rat-ta-tat-tat of Tommy guns following the bloodbath in Europe..guns guns and more guns.

I'm sure the framers of the constitution NEVER envisioned the right of every Tom, Dick and Harry to be able to arm to the teeth in large modern metropolitan cities of today. They didn't foresee millions upon millions of automatic weapons and high tech pistols wreaking yearly havoc on a modern civil society. They were spesking of muskets..and militia and a frontier.

It used to be OK to own slaves in the US. Government changed that within the consitution. Women were once not allowed to vate. They changed that in the consitiution. Alcohol was made illegal (and then made legal once again!) They changed that in the constitution. Drugs like hashish, pot, cocaine and morphine were once easily available upon perscription. They changed that. Segregation was ended..etc..etc..etc

When I use the term "They" I mean the people of the United States which is you..and your neighbour.

Don't try to tell me the lie that things and laws can't change and that the right to bear arms is some God given right to unleash such carnage as the late 20th (and now 21st ) Century has seen. Britian and Europe have very little gunplay and carnage..ditto for Canada. You can buy guns in Canada. Many people hunt and collect these things. We just have a VERY stringent process to ensure that legally purchased firearms end up in the hands of civil and responsible people. There are very few handguns in Canada..as they are of little use except for sports, collecting or target shooters. There has been a tragic growth in gunplay in our cities as more and more high tech eeaponry seeps across the border south of us and ends up in the hands of gangs and criminals. Much like the many cities in the US..Canada's inner cities are now becoming a "wild West" shootout.

Sadly, we've come along way from Flintlocks to Glocks..as last weekend in Tucson so sadly pointed out to all of us.

That madman MAY have got a second shot off (if lucky) if he had to reload ala 1776. Instead..it is 2010 and spent shells spit more swiftly from these precious American pistols.

Unhappiness is a warm gun!

PS Some statistics and facts

Gun Deaths - International Comparisons
Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

Homicide Suicide Other (inc Accident)

USA (2001) 3.98 5.92 0.36
Italy (1997) 0.81 1.1 0.07
Switzerland (1998) 0.50 5.8 0.10
Canada (2002) 0.4 2.0 0.04
Finland (2003) 0.35 4.45 0.10
Australia (2001) 0.24 1.34 0.10
France (2001) 0.21 3.4 0.49
England/Wales (2002) 0.15 0.2 0.03
Scotland (2002) 0.06 0.2 0.02
Japan (2002) 0.02 0.04 0

Firearm Aquisition in Canada;

Licensing of firearms ownersThere are three classes of firearms and firearm licences: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. Prohibited firearms are not actually prohibited, they simply require a prohibited licence to obtain. New prohibited licences are available only at the discretion of the Chief Firearms Officer of a province or the Federal Government of Canada.

Non-restricted licences allow a person to own and use most semi-automatic and manual action rifles and shotguns, but no handguns. Rifles and shotguns that do not meet length requirements are classed as restricted. Some rifles and shotguns are classed as restricted by name.
Restricted licences allow a person to own most handguns and some restricted semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Handguns with barrels 105 mm or shorter are classed as prohibited. Some handguns are classed as prohibited by name.
Prohibited licences allow a person to own firearms classified as prohibited, including fully automatic firearms. Generally, these licences are not commonly available and may only be issued by the CFO of a province or the Federal Government. Otherwise, to possess one, the licence must be grandfathered as of December 1, 1998.
The licence required to purchase and own a firearm in Canada is the Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL). This is the same licence used for both restricted and non-restricted firearms with a small variation in the application. In order to be eligible to obtain a non-restricted PAL, the applicant must have passed a test, usually after taking the Canadian Firearms Safety Course. For the restricted PAL (which includes handguns) the applicant must have passed both the CFSC test and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC) test. It is not necessary to take these courses to challenge the tests. Most courses offer the CFSC or a combined course that includes both the CRFSC and the CFSC

Laws restricting/banning certain guns or high-capacity magazines are only obeyed by law-abiding citizens who aren't a threat. People who use guns to rob, murder, or protect their drug stash do not obey any laws, and they will always have guns because there is an underground "black market" for everything.

A person like Loughner, who is about to commit mass murder, won't be the least bit concerned about illegally possessing a firearm, knowing that they'll be spending the rest of their life in prison for murder. The illegal gun market and criminals who own/use illegal guns simply give law abiding, honest gun owners a bad name. Not every gun owner or gun enthusiast is a toothless, stupid redneck. A large percentage of gun owners are typical, everyday people who know that the police can't be everywhere all the time, and want to be sure they can defend themselves or their family at all times without worrying that when the police arrive it will be too late.