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Who keeps spillover violence from U.S. border? Experts credit immigrants

El Paso : TX : USA | May 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM PDT
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El Paso: Texas and U.S. flags over the city

--Some say immigrants work the "El Paso Miracle." --

One might expect El Paso, a city whose poverty rate doubles the national average, to have a sketchy public safety record. Add to that: the city abuts Ciudad Juaraz, Mexico--the most violent place on earth. But El Paso--like many U.S. towns and cities along the Mexico border--is actually safer than almost all U.S. cities of its size. Because immigrants compose a quarter of the population, some criminologists think that immigrants work the miracle of making U.S. border towns safe.

"If you want to find a safe city, first determine the size of the immigrant population. If the immigrant community represents a large proportion of the population, you're likely in one of the country's safer cities. San Diego, Laredo, El Paso-these cities are teeming with immigrants, and they're some of the safest places in the country."

~ Jack Levin, criminologist, Northeastern University in Massachusetts.

But why would this be true? In a Reason magazine article entitled "The El Paso Miracle" Radley Balko researches some critical factors:

  • Immigrants are aware that they have a stake in the country.
  • They have sacrificed their personal security and social relationships in order to live here.
  • They are success-oriented.
  • Some experts theorize that the very process of migration tends to select for people with a low potential for criminality.

The image of spill-over violence in U.S. border communities can't be statistically substantiated, reported the Los Angeles Times last week. After reviewing crime statistics for the largest communities and interviewing law enforcement officials from Texas to California, reporter Nicholas Riccardi concluded that, although there is a widespread perception that violence in Mexico has spread north, "U.S. border communities are fairly secure. Some have even become safer."

Could immigrants along the border be bringing that greater public safety?

Back in 2007, dozens of academic specialists went on record in a letter to President George W. Bush and Congressional leaders saying:

Numerous studies by independent researchers and government commissions over the past 100 years repeatedly and consistently have found that, in fact, immigrants are less likely to commit crimes or to be behind bars than are the native-born. This is true for the nation as a whole, as well as for cities with large immigrant populations such as Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, and Miami, and cities along the U.S.-Mexico border such as San Diego and El Paso.

But, continues Levin, the receiving community may play a significant part in the dynamic. An immigrant group that is well-received may show a lower propensity for criminality.

El Paso's stellar crime rate could be a case in point promoting immigrant assimilation and acceptance. In 2007 the Washington Post reported on city leaders' resistance to federal anti-immigration policies. El Paso had resisted border wall construction within its city limits, even undertaking a legal battle it ultimately lost. And the local police to this day refuse to engage in immigration enforcement because, they say, it would damage the cooperation of the city's undocumented population with the police.

At that time El Paso's Mayor John Cook described the city attitude thusly: "Most people in Washington really don't understand life on the border. They don't understand our philosophy here that the border joins us together, it doesn't separate us."

And that cooperation remains intact in 2010, evidenced by El Paso's exemplary public safety record. "Life in El Paso is good," stated El Paso's police spokesman Michael Baranyay in the Los Angeles Times just last week.

The reality of safety along the border, belying the myth of border spill-over violence, could add an additional incentive to the nation to welcome the stranger by enacting comprehensive immigration law reform. Adding needed and welcomed immigrants may also promote the common good by improving public safety.

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Posted By Digger55 Digger55 | about 2 years ago
Billie, thanks for report and a fresh perspective on this subject.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
Digger, I appreciate your readership and your supportive comment!
Posted By DavaCastillo Dava Castillo | about 2 years ago
WOW Billie great work! This is a fantastic story, and one that needs desperately to be told.

The critical factors outlined in the Reason Magazine article are particularly cogent in discussing the nature of immigration reform and the extent to which we should offer amnesty.

Thank you for this perspective.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
Thank you, a211423! I don't see this often enough in the media either. I absolutely agree with you on the value of the Reason article. We must tackle comprehensive immigration reform for so many reasons. This information shows that it is in our own best interests simply from the point of view of public safety. Thanks again!
Posted By OMega3_2yew OMega3_2yew | about 2 years ago
people wanting to move freely
the episode where time and space reslove
the resoltion that keeps our heats intact
the memory ahnd the negressor,
to beat back the clock hands for just one minute
to report to duty and to hell with all this Sim shit
we just want to travel up and down the coast like
a party that justed starly early in the morning and lasted
all day strong to give it a long bread line and
the rhythm section of a beat that lasted all night
fight for your rights they want to produce peace by chance
and parle vouz france? did there every don't you dare....
cottonmouth got a hold and the rhyme scheme unfolds
that you can consider a wealthy amount you pain
ugly as a toucan sam report gone south how dare you....
out and about like you just want to preay for humanity
like it wasn't so foreign as though you could keep a story fresh
Posted By Truthteller Truthteller | about 2 years ago
More propaganda supported by NO statistics.
No quotes from any member of the El Paso Police Department to back-up your opinion that, " And the local police to this day refuse to engage in immigration enforcement because, they say, it would damage the cooperation of the city's undocumented population with the police."
Interesting quote from John Cook- who was born in England in 1606 and died there in 1660....(followed your link)
Again, your opinion. "The reality of safety along the border, belying the myth of border spill-over violence, could add an additional incentive to the nation to welcome the stranger by enacting comprehensive immigration law reform. Adding needed and welcomed immigrants may also promote the common good by improving public safety."
Truthfully, most Americans (53%) and Arizonans (70%) don't welcome them. And, as more and more Americans run out of unemployment benefits it will become increasingly clear that illegals are NOT needed here. More violence will occur in El Paso and across the country as LEGAL citizens realize that the people keeping them from a job are ILLEGALS.
I recently had to interview two, they are making much better money then I do. When that is the case for more and more American citizens, maybe people will wake up !
Perhaps we should look at some OBJECTIVE AND CREDIBLE news sources:
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/tag/border-violence/
(sounds non-violent to me)
Or, how about these?
2)http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,462206,00.html
3)http://article.wn.com/view/2009/03/25/Obama_commits_more_federal_agents_to_Mexico_border/
4)http://www.caller.com/news/2010/mar/21/violence-border-region-escalating/
5)http://www.hawkesreport.com/news.htm#travel_warning_extended_by_state
6)http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local-beat/Help-Promised-For-Violence-Racked-Border.html
7) http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2010/mar/22/violence-in-border-region-escalating/?partner=RSS
OR, maybe you could put it in context and tell the truth that the US Government is spending MORE money, which is the ONLY reason crime is down.....
http://www.policeone.com/border-patrol/articles/1983317-Increased-patrols-credited-for-drop-in-violence-at-border/
Fact checking is a useful thing, especially when anyone with a computer can find all these truthful sources to shoot down your propaganda in less than 10 minutes.
Ah, yes, the Truth, The Truth, my friends, the Truth shall set you free!!!
Reply By robertweller Robert Weller | about 2 years ago
you have no reports. your location is unknown. you don't use your real name. why should anyone take you seriously? billie's contributions are a great asset to allvoices. why don't you write something?
Reply By DelilahStarling Delilah Jean Williams | about 2 years ago
Truthteller, wow, that's all we need to prove illegal immigrants aren't needed here is for unemployment benefits to run out? That suggests that people will be so desperate they will do the back-breaking work that field/farm workers do for minimum wage and they will do it indefinitely.

Your suggestion that violence will increase because U.S. citizens will be so angry that an illegal is keeping them from getting that two-bit job, that fights will break out in the street--is utterly ridiculous.

Billie's article is well written and substantiated with facts. She didn't just make up the quote from a criminologist or the letter to Bush written by academics. The only truth you are interested in is your version of it.

And the only facts people like you are interested in are the ones who substantiated your sarcastic, bigoted, self-indulgent, pompous point of view.
Reply By Truthteller Truthteller | about 2 years ago
Delilah
anyone can write anything to anyone. Where are the numbers? None. None presented - none available.
No attribution from PD. Why?
You are the uneducated one. Your ignorance shines through. I interview dozens of illegals in my job. Most make more than I do for less work in better conditions. This isn't the 1960s. They don't come here to pick peas and beans anymore nor to detassel corn. That is all done by machines now.
So, you see, I am equipped with facts, numbers and the truth.
You and your ilk can shout and criticize and talk down to me all you wish.
Goodness, please report me for spamming.
It will NOT stop and the truth will shine through your propaganda.
The Silent Majority has risen in unison and will be silenced no more by cerebral snobs.
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Reply By missingxtension missingxtension | about 2 years ago
You know what i find interesting?
Its interesting how since the beginning of America immigrants have to go trough the same hate filled accusations over and over again. Back then it is easily attributed to racism, history shows that.
In present times it is some how not related to racism?
The Chinese at one time were the strangers who kept to themselves, didn't assimilate, criminals, dirty bringing disease, uneducated, didn't speak English, were going to take over America, cheapening labor pay, taking American jobs, sending too much gold back to china, everything you can think they say now about the Mexican immigrants.
Then before that there were the Irish, the scum, didn't assimilate, criminals, dirty bringing disease, uneducated, were going to take over America, cheapening labor pay, taking American jobs, the same as Mexicans.
Benjamin Franklin was complaining about the immigrants from Germany that didn't speak English, had signs in foreign languages, and their kids weren't educated.
Americans have always anti immigrant in the mainstream, the melting pot is just a myth.
Do you want some sources?
Hell no, you should know your own history.
Hints "Chinese exclusion act", "Philadelphia bible nativist Riots"
Then you come over here and tell me why it is that it was racism back then, but its not racism now.
Then name a single American thing that doesn't come from immigrants. I can name a lot that do come from immigrants, GM, Marvel Comics, Superman, Hot Dogs, Pizza, Nasa went to the moon because of a nazi.
Posted By CarlosMarentes Carlos Marentes | about 2 years ago
Dear Billie,

Thanks for this good piece related to border safety. I am a border native and like many people, I am very concerned about the terrible situation we are facing as a border community. So I like to offer some comments to this issue.

There other ways to see this issue.

From my point of view, El Paso is deeply connected to Ciudad Juárez (socially, economically, politically, family ties, etc., etc.) same as other border sites; Brownsville-Matamoros for example. El Paso is not a thing, but is a space shaped by social relations and ongoing events. Therefore, we can not understand the real situation of El Paso if we see it as an insulated town. To say that El Paso is the safest city is only bragged marketing. It's also an incomplete depiction.

El Paso is part of Ciudad Juárez and viceversa. The violence in Ciudad Juárez is the violence in El Paso. That it's only visible in Ciudad Juárez is because like in many nice homes, we put green grass and beautiful flowers in the front yard, while we place the trash and the junk in the back yard.

What is happening in reality is that powerful forces (I don't know if is Organized Crime or the Law Enforcement Agencies) have been able to restrict (not to be confused with containment) violent incidents in the southern part of this border town. Who can assure us that many of the crimes in the streets of Ciudad Juárez are not planned in El Paso or directed from El Paso?

Like I said, there are more sides in this issue that need to be fully addressed.

One, for example, is human suffering because suffering always extend beyond borders. Is pain and suffering (as a result of violence across the river) only felt in Ciudad Juárez? How many people (relatives) in El Paso (and adjacent places) have been directly affected by the almost 1,000 human beings killed in the streets of Ciudad Juárez only this year?

And there are many other vital considerations we need to take into account.

We need to do this to understand our own responsibilities in this horrible nightmare facing the people of Ciudad Juárez and because although we have a racist black-steel wall, we are not two cities but one border people.

This is too long already and there are many other issues, so I like to finish by remembering that famous John Donne quote: "Any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee..."

Sincerely,

Carlos Marentes
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
Sincere thanks, Carlos, for your thoughtful and important contribution here that adds important dimensions to the discussion of border violence. I agree with the points you are making. Your position as a life-long, respected leader for human rights in Ciudad Juarez adds weight to your expressed opinions.

Immigrants are only one factor in the consideration of border violence. And violence extends far beyond mere crime statistics. I appreciate your understanding that space limitations curtail a full treatment of the topic in my post. Your comment does what comments are designed to do: enrich and develop the discussion. I am grateful.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
If your mission were to prove that this piece is inadequately substantiated, and thereby unreliable, I would engage that dialogue. However this is the second of two lengthy and highly negative comments on two successive posts I've contributed, and the previous one was deliberately personally insulting. It appears that your underlying mission is to prove that you are right and I am wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, and I won't argue with you.

Just a point of information: sometimes when the Allvoices computer adds context from the internet to our posts it attaches something irrelevant. That was the case with the "John Cook" link with which you objected.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
Whoops! The Allvoices computer misplaced this comment. It was my reply to Truthteller's first comment.
Reply By Truthteller Truthteller | about 2 years ago
It is entertaining that whenever one disagrees with a liberal socialist the disagreement is termed "personally insulting".
Even though real facts are used to substantiate each and every point.
"Nice and pretty discussions" by people who want to destroy America as we know it are called "cerebral" or "respected" or "deep".
To most of the real world, respected and deep are backed up with statistics NOT just fluff from sociologists living in ivory towers who have never had to work a day in their lives. Those of us who work hard to support those academics living at the government trough, the illegals and all else deemed "entitled" respect facts and statistics.
If that is personally insulting then since you claim to be a reporter, you really have two choices: 1) tell both sides of a story and support it with facts or 2)stop your propaganda crusade. As I said in the post to your last article, the silent majority has reared its "ugly" head and we will not be silent anymore. The damage wreaked upon my country since January 2009 and the further damage you and the liberal socialists in charge of the Democrat party have planned must be stopped. We will do so, even if that means speaking out every time an unfounded urban myth or an untruth is told in an attempt to further destroy the United States of American. A2...You do not care about the injustices and poverty EVERYWHERE. If you did, you would see the truth that illegal immigration is causing the majority of it in our country. They come here and take jobs Americans want and need. They come here with no documentation and live off the government trough. Or, as a third alternative they come here carrying drugs like mules and use them to profit at the expense of our native born who are living poor and miserable lives. They further put millions of innocent Americans,(police and neighbors)in danger of being victims of the shootings that follow the spread of drugs into our neighborhoods.
It is "nice and pretty" to claim you care about all. Prove it by looking more deeply into what occurs when we do NOT enforce laws unilaterally.Prove it by speaking out in favor of only LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Something even us lowly, uneducated, racist hicks support!
Carlos - you write "We need to do this to understand our own responsibilities in this horrible nightmare facing the people of Ciudad Juárez and because although we have a racist black-steel wall, we are not two cities but one border people."
Nothing could be more incorrect.
In your country that wall may be called racist. In my country it is called a border. LIKE ALL LAWS IN MY COUNTRY, IT IS NOT RACIST. IT IS A LAW TO BE OBEYED WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.
You live in your country and I live in mine. If you hate my country so much, then do not come here. Do not send your people here. Move away from the wall.
If you can not comprehend that the laws of the United States of America must be enforced then that is your loss. But, you need to understand very clearly one plain and simple truth that your fancy prose denies.
El Paso and Ciudad Juarez are TWO CITIES; they are in TWO STATES; AND THEY ARE MOST IMPORTANTLY IN TWO COUNTRIES. Like it or not, they are. They will be always and no one's prose or propaganda will ever change that.
Finally, since I am sure I am once again being personally insulting, you speak of "one people" in your fancy prose. I don't know any one people - but I do know that there are 20 million (conservative estimate) of your country men and women here illegally. Law abiding Americans are more than ready for them to come back home.
Reply By Truthteller Truthteller | about 2 years ago
It is entertaining that whenever one disagrees with a liberal socialist the disagreement is termed "personally insulting".
Even though real facts are used to substantiate each and every point.
"Nice and pretty discussions" by people who want to destroy America as we know it are called "cerebral" or "respected" or "deep".
To most of the real world, respected and deep are backed up with statistics NOT just fluff from sociologists living in ivory towers who have never had to work a day in their lives. Those of us who work hard to support those academics living at the government trough, the illegals and all else deemed "entitled" respect facts and statistics.
If that is personally insulting then since you claim to be a reporter, you really have two choices: 1) tell both sides of a story and support it with facts or 2)stop your propaganda crusade. As I said in the post to your last article, the silent majority has reared its "ugly" head and we will not be silent anymore. The damage wreaked upon my country since January 2009 and the further damage you and the liberal socialists in charge of the Democrat party have planned must be stopped. We will do so, even if that means speaking out every time an unfounded urban myth or an untruth is told in an attempt to further destroy the United States of American. A2...You do not care about the injustices and poverty EVERYWHERE. If you did, you would see the truth that illegal immigration is causing the majority of it in our country. They come here and take jobs Americans want and need. They come here with no documentation and live off the government trough. Or, as a third alternative they come here carrying drugs like mules and use them to profit at the expense of our native born who are living poor and miserable lives. They further put millions of innocent Americans,(police and neighbors)in danger of being victims of the shootings that follow the spread of drugs into our neighborhoods.
It is "nice and pretty" to claim you care about all. Prove it by looking more deeply into what occurs when we do NOT enforce laws unilaterally.Prove it by speaking out in favor of only LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Something even us lowly, uneducated, racist hicks support!
Carlos - you write "We need to do this to understand our own responsibilities in this horrible nightmare facing the people of Ciudad Juárez and because although we have a racist black-steel wall, we are not two cities but one border people."
Nothing could be more incorrect.
In your country that wall may be called racist. In my country it is called a border. LIKE ALL LAWS IN MY COUNTRY, IT IS NOT RACIST. IT IS A LAW TO BE OBEYED WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.
You live in your country and I live in mine. If you hate my country so much, then do not come here. Do not send your people here. Move away from the wall.
If you can not comprehend that the laws of the United States of America must be enforced then that is your loss. But, you need to understand very clearly one plain and simple truth that your fancy prose denies.
El Paso and Ciudad Juarez are TWO CITIES; they are in TWO STATES; AND THEY ARE MOST IMPORTANTLY IN TWO COUNTRIES. Like it or not, they are. They will be always and no one's prose or propaganda will ever change that.
Finally, since I am sure I am once again being personally insulting, you speak of "one people" in your fancy prose. I don't know any one people - but I do know that there are 20 million (conservative estimate) of your country men and women here illegally. Law abiding Americans are more than ready for them to come back home.
Reply By missingxtension missingxtension | about 2 years ago
I am only going to feed the beast a couple of nibbles.

Number one, why do you label people? is it to differentiate yourself? You know so you can see how superior you are? Do you need to reassure that are within your accepted label?

Number Two "Statistics is the science of making effective use of numerical data relating to groups of individuals or experiments. It deals with all aspects of this, including not only the collection, analysis and interpretation of such data, but also the planning of the collection of data, in terms of the design of surveys and experiments.[1]" In other words, its only as good as the source since it is always an interpretation. So in other words, its really easy to fake. Even a survey can show a slant.

Number Three "LIKE ALL LAWS IN MY COUNTRY, IT IS NOT RACIST. IT IS A LAW TO BE OBEYED WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT."
Sure lets obey laws, what is the offense for being illegal? What charges can actually be proven in a court?
What is the punishment? Do you know your own laws that you want to obey?

Number four "If you hate my country so much, then do not come here." Its not your country, you are part of a whole. If you dont like being part of a whole then its too bad. The majority turn a blind eye to immigrants because it benefits them. Everyone, housing, gardening, shopping, its all fueled by immigrant fuel.
By the way I classify you as a liberal on immigration.
After all, when you label people its subjective.
You have very liberal views about immigrants, and about deporting them. But I do agree that your number about the illegal immigrants is conservative.
Reply By Dragonfly6878 Dragonfly6878 | about 2 years ago
Ah, Billie, just ignore Truthteller. Anonymity always emboldens racist bigots, hate filled school yard bullies and jerks.
Posted By DavaCastillo Dava Castillo | about 2 years ago
Mr. Marentes,

Your words here are tremendously poignant and wise. I agree with your inclusive view of a social problem, and would only add that like El Paso and Ciudad Juarez are connected, so are many of us who care about what happens there. I live in California, but I care deeply about the injustices that occur everywhere, not just on the border. Poverty and suffering are, sadly, all around us and to ignore it does indeed diminish us as human beings.

Billie is a tireless advocate for the border area, and I appreciate her contributions and the conversations, like yours, that enhances and advances knowledge.
Posted By Punditty Punditty | about 2 years ago
Excellent report, Billie. If the mainstream press were more interested in presenting facts and fresh perspective than promoting yelling matches, this sort of report would be more widespread.
Reply By Truthteller Truthteller | about 2 years ago
pditty - why is it excellent?
Where are the facts?
There are none.
There is talk of studies but no links. No statistics.
Just broad sweeeping feel good quotes from those who have never been out of their ivory towers.
Nice opinion piece.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
Thanks for your support, Punditty, which always means much to me since you are an experienced journalist. I simply cannot watch the yelling matches on television. They generate more heat than light.
Posted By birdpond Cathy Taibbi | about 2 years ago
Billie, I have to admire your grace and strength as you stand, steadfast, in your defense of human rights . . . and not just human rights, but your obvious confidence in the innate goodness of humans.

Not having any direct experience of the border, I can't offer anything to this series of arguments except my intuitive reaction from years of reading you're posts; If there is a truly humane and enlightened path here, a silver lining or new perspective, you will be one of the first to see it, to chart it and to share it.

There is a philosophy that what we focus on (good or bad) becomes where we end up. If that's true, more of us should make a point to look for the good. I think that's why I enjoy your articles so much.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
Adding the grace of your presence and support here is indeed a gift, Cathy. A better world is possible. Thank you!
Posted By newsjunkieinmidwest newsjunkieinmidwest | about 2 years ago
Billie, Thank you for posting this report. Today I listened to an interview with Governor Robert Ray on Iowa Public Radio. He was speaking about the 1970's, when Iowa welcomed immigrants from Laos to make a home here. He said that they were moral, strong work ethic, and maintained strong family ties. He said that these characteristics allowed them to fit into Iowa's culture. He states in the interview that the immigrants and Iowa benefited from this arrangement. He commented on the strength and courage they demonstrated.
Now reading your post, I realize that 40 years later we are seeing another group of people, who are living in fear, looking to the United States for a fresh start. They list the same group of characteristics as the people of Laos. Surely we who are so strong, can find the resources to aid these people, and allow them the hope of a better future. Please continue to keep their plight fresh in our minds.
Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 2 years ago
I agree with Ray's perspective. [Significant to note that Ray is a Republican.] We must provide legal channels for the immigrants Iowa, as an aging state, needs to function. And yes, we need the values they contribute as well. The interview is here: http://shar.es/mCFVo
Thanks so much for adding that contribution!
Posted By Truthteller Truthteller | about 2 years ago
missing lost tension tightness - what ever you are or call yourself.
You are correct you may feed the beast because you see the beast is the silent majority of Americans who are now standing up and in one unified voice screaming, "NO More!" You have wrought enough damage on us!
So you see you are wrong -- IT is MY country! I love it enough not to want to see its borders be torn down and become part of your global marxist society.
You --well I don't think you love it. You just like all the elitists like sounding smart.
Call me or classify me whatever you wish.
I don't care what you think.
But, heres a real shocker for you, I am much more liberal then my family and friends who believe all illegals should be shot to keep them from coming back again.
I just figure, here once illegally they should be denied citizenship forever and keep hauling their butts back once every month or so after Sheriff Joe has all his road work done:-)
Posted By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | almost 2 years ago
This article dated June 3, 2010 has more data on this matter:

"U.S.-Mexico Border Safety: Area Is One Of the Safest Parts Of America"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/us-mexico-border-safety-a_n_598825.html
Posted By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | almost 2 years ago
And the Associate Press is now covering this story:

AP Impact: US-Mexico border isn't so dangerous

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gr25xbV37mkGaC8-iRa16HHp5FlwD9G3SEA01
Posted By LAVanNatta Lori VanNatta | almost 2 years ago
yet now we hear the truth - 1100 of then in one county jail.

We have American citizens who are homeless, who are starving OR some who are obese because CHEAP food is unhealthy, who are mentally ill and getting no help, who cannot pay their utilities despite working 60 to 80 hours per week.

The time has come to put OUR people ahead of the rest of the world.
TRUE CHARITY begins at home.
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