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Glendale : CA : USA | 2 months ago
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  • Leading the way
    Leading the way
    Posted by: CaliforniaMike
    ... Republicans against evolution
Leading the way

"I belong to no organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
-- WILL ROGERS

Ain't it the truth?

When Republicans gained control of the Senate in 2001, even though it was only by 50-50 plus Dick Cheney's vote, they remained united enough to ram through massive tax cuts for the rich.

Democrats have 60 votes, but there's still serious doubt whether they'll be able to pass health care reform.

Meanwhile the Republicans are trying to become even more organized. They have put together a potential list of 10 basic Republican principles and they'll demand that anyone who wants support of the party must agree with at least eight of them.

Interesting, and some of them sound good, but it's just another example of "poli-talk" -- words that sound wonderful but mean very little.

Here they are:

What they say: (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill.

What it means: The $800 billion Bush put together in September to bail on Wall Street was fine, but $800 billion for Main Street is excessive. Bush doubling the debt in his eight years is fine, but Obama adding to it to clean up Bush's mess is irresponsible.

What they say: (2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare.

What it means: There's money to be made in health care.

What they say: (3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation.

What it means: Drill, baby, drill and damn the environment. Jesus is coming soon so it won't matter anyway.

What they say: (4) We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check.

What it means: We love workers -- unless they want to join unions.

What they say: (5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants.

What it means: We know we could solve the problem by cracking down on the people who give illegal immigrants jobs, but that's our base.

What they say: (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges.

What it means: Lots of money to be made in war.

What they say: (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat.

What it means: As John McCain said, "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran."

What they say: (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act.

What it means: Larry Craig will not be allowed to marry. We need scapegoats to keep the Religious Right in line.

What they say: (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing, denial of health care and government funding of abortion.

What it means: We're opposed to rationing unless it's done by private business. As for abortion, we'll get you born and then you're on your own.

What they say: (10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

What they mean: Guns don't kill people, Republicans kill people.

You may note there's nothing on there about jobs and there's nothing about education. You can be a Republican and still believe in that stuff.

As for the big tent, they're clearly showing that on evolution. You can either believe God created the Earth six billion years ago or that he created the Earth 6,000 years ago and the Flintstones was a documentary.

God, I love Republicans.

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Posted By Shirley66 Shirley66 | 2 months ago
Regardless of what ever party one belongs to..it is always the good intent and the nationalistic spirit that should lead the way.
Posted By pollard pollard | 2 months ago
So Mike, I take it you sent your tax refund back to the government?

What it means: The $800 billion BushBush put together in September to bail on Wall Street was fine, but $800 billion for Main Street is excessive. Bush doubling the debt in his eight years is fine, but Obama adding to it to clean up Bush's mess is irresponsible.

Is washington what you consider main street?

The diffrence in your statement above is, bushes $800 billion went to the crooks on wallstreet. As obamas $800 billion are going to the crooks in washington.

Obamas debt is in one year! So when are you dems going to start holding your man accountable? Will it be any time soon? If not then we will need to set a couple of million to the side to help pay for the new money printing machines, at the rate they are printing they could break down any day now.
Posted By firesisle firesisle | 2 months ago
"What they say:
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill.

What it means: The $800 billion BushBush put together in September to bail on Wall Street was fine, but $800 billion for Main Street is excessive. Bush doubling the debt in his eight years is fine, but Obama adding to it to clean up Bush's mess is irresponsible."

Nope, sorry Mike, that's what YOU say we say. Many of us didn't support Bush's open wallet either...

"What they say:
(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare.

What it means: There's money to be made in health care."

There is, of course, money to be made in any industry; we believe it's not necessary to kill an industry to provide markedly improved health care for everyone. The Democratic initiatives, to date, are agenda oriented, not results oriented. They are intended to give more power to the government in our daily lives... see #1.

"What they say:
(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation.

What it means: Drill, baby, drill and damn the environment. Jesus is coming soon so it won't matter anyway."

Again, a gross misrepresentation of the views of many, probably most Republicans. There is evidence that there is already more oil, already drilled and piped, on the north shore of Alaska, and other places, to provide for our energy needs for the next 100 years and very likely much more, since new reserves are being discovered every day.

Cap and Trade is just plain stupid. Global Warming, especially with new revelations about the chief proponents of the theory, the fact that it doesn't fit our current climate model, and the overwhelming historical evidence to the contrary, is very clearly, at least to many of us, a fantasy,designed to empower the radical environmental agenda.


"What they say: (4) We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check.

What it means: We love workers -- unless they want to join unions."

As an active union member, I strongly oppose card check. It's exactly the opposite of what the unions supported for the last 80 years, and if you know your union history, it would have been vehemently opposed by every union in the country, even 20 years ago. Now they feel they are gaining an upper hand, and they want to change the rules. It's outrageous;

I firmly believe in the right of all workers to collective bargaining; with that said, I believe even more firmly to a fair and reasonable process to determine if the majority of the workers in a company really want to be unionized.


"What they say: (5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants.

What it means: We know we could solve the problem by cracking down on the people who give illegal immigrants jobs, but that's our base."

Most Republicans want to solve the problem as much as anyone else; the Democrats are as guilty as the Republicans in looking the other way.

"What they say: (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges.

What it means: Lots of money to be made in war."

If lots of money was being made by the war, our economy wouldn't be in the toilet. Please be serious. We believe that wars are won by generals on the battlefield, who can best determine what is necessary to do so, rather than by politicians who can't even get government right. That was the principle lesson from Vietnam... guess who didn't learn?

"What they say: (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat.

What it means: As John McCain said, "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran."

Another result of spin-doctoring. Many Republicans want out of the wars in Iraq and in Iran, and then take stronger steps to contain the threat posed in the Middle East by a nuclear Iran. We would, however, like to avoid war. We've already sent too many of our children to punch somebody elses dance card.

"What they say: (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act.

What it means: Larry Craig will not be allowed to marry. We need scapegoats to keep the Religious Right in line."

I am not alone, as a Republican, and a Christian to denounce the "Defense of Marriage Act". I, in fact, vehemently oppose it. We don't need scapegoats; we just need to take all the stones in our glass houses and use them to create a bridge instead; that's true for both sides of almost any issue.

"What they say: (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing, denial of health care and government funding of abortion.

What it means: We're opposed to rationing unless it's done by private business. As for abortion, we'll get you born and then you're on your own."

What we're saying is that we believe a government which has shown, historically, an abiding inability to administer any type of public project without massive waste and corruption, is not the entity we wish to rely on for our health and well being. An abortion should not be an easy choice, nor a substitute for poor planning, stupidity, or lack of judgment; as with anything, there are exceptions to every rule.

"What they say: (10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

What they mean: Guns don't kill people, Republicans kill people."

Really? How many of the gang bangers out there in LA are Republicans? Obviously, people kill people; they have been doing it before the advent of firearms, and would continue to find a way if firearms were banned. Laws have NEVER prevented it, and really, never even slowed it down; concealed carry, on the other hand, has proved to do exactly that.

In Washington DC, where the gun control laws are among the most prohibitive in the country, you stand a statistically significant better chance of being shot and killed, than if you were a soldier in Iraq. Maybe we should just get out of Washington DC.
Posted By Write4Life Maryann Scarangello | 2 months ago
Firesisle - well said.

Mike.... you could fill in for Chris Matthews obviously.
Posted By zaza2010 zaza2010 | 2 months ago
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Reply By amauripinto amauripinto | 2 months ago
i feel u man, right on!

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