The leading source for credible citizen reporting

Report Your News
Take the tour...

12 Killed In Fort Hood As Our Government Continues To Destroy Our Military

El Paso : TX : USA | 16 days ago  
Views: 8,646
  • Nation and Fort Mourns Deaths At Fort Hood
    Nation and Fort Mourns Deaths At Fort Hood
    Posted by: robertweller
    How much more can we ask of these soldiers, some of whom have deployed to ...
  • Maj. Hassan Accused Killer At Fort Hood
    Maj. Hassan Accused Killer At Fort Hood
    Posted by: robertweller
    Army psychiatrist Hassan is accused of killing 12 solders and wounding 31 ...
  • Members of a local law enforcement SWAT team deploy at Fort Hood, Texas
    Members of a local law enforcement SWAT team deploy at Fort Hood, ...
    Source: Reuters
  • News crews gather at a press conference at the main entrance of Fort Hood in Killeen
    News crews gather at a press conference at the main entrance of Fort ...
    Source: AFP
  • Major Nidal Hasan, the U.S. Army doctor identified as a suspect in the shooting at the U.S. Army post in Fort Hood, Texas, is seen in this undated handout photo from the website of the U.S. Government Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences
    Major Nidal Hasan, the U.S. Army doctor identified as a suspect in the ...
    Source: Reuters
  • Video grab of emergency personnel carrying wounded at the U.S. Army post at Fort Hood, Texas
    Video grab of emergency personnel carrying wounded at the U.S. Army ...
    Source: Reuters
  • U.S. President Barack Obama makes remarks about a shooting at a U.S. Army base in Fort Hood, Texas, at the White House Tribal Nations Conference at the Department of the Interior in Washington
    U.S. President Barack Obama makes remarks about a shooting at a U.S. ...
    Source: Reuters
  • U.S. President Barack Obama makes remarks about a shooting at a U.S. Army base in Fort Hood, Texas at the White House Tribal Nations Conference at the Department of the Interior in Washington
    U.S. President Barack Obama makes remarks about a shooting at a U.S. ...
    Source: Reuters
  • Undated photograph of the U.S. Army post at Fort Hood, Texas
    Undated photograph of the U.S. Army post at Fort Hood, Texas
    Source: Reuters
  • U.S. President Barack Obama arrives to make remarks about a shooting at a U.S. Army base in Fort Hood, Texas at the White House Tribal Nations Conference at the Department of the Interior in Washington
    U.S. President Barack Obama arrives to make remarks about a shooting ...
    Source: Reuters
Nation and Fort Mourns Deaths At Fort Hood

What's New: Alleged killer not dead. Toll back to 12.

By ROBERT WELLER

Time, after time, after time, the Army tells us not to worry about suicides, murders, drug use.

An Army major fatally shot 12 soldiers and wounded 31 others at Fort Hood, the nation's biggest military post. Even more incredible is that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was a psychiatrist who specialized in trauma including Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

Fort Hood officials told the Washington Post that an earlier report that Hasan was killed was incorrect. He has been hospitalized in stable condition.

He had worked at Walter Reed and was a member of the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress. He also held a master in public health. Some psychologists have found that having too many depression patients can rub off on them.

The Army says it was an isolated case. Others might say SSDD. There have been several, probably more than we know of. We still don’t know how Pat Tillman died.

Many previous cases involving deaths, or killings of civilians outside the forts, have involved soldiers suffering from Post-Traumatic Stress Order.

Most simply put it means soldiers are being sent into combat too often. The Army has stated that never before in its history have soldiers been in sustained combat so long. Even in World War II they would be taken off the front line for weeks at a time.

These heroes are spending up to 1,500 months behind the wire, with only about 20 or so days off. Some have been deployed six times. The Army and Marine Corps aren't big enough to support this burden, only a draft would lessen the strain, or pulling out.

Now they are being pressed not to kill anyone who might seem to be a threat because they could make a mistake.

The Army has held many seminars, met with reporters, tried to get soldiers to watch their buddies for signs of stress: things like being late, easily angered and so on. When a rash of killings of civilians occurred near Fort Carson, and it was clear some of the killers should have been getting counseling but weren’t, no one was held accountable. This reporter pressed and was told this is not the time for that. My retort, “If not now, when,” was brushed off.

No one in the command can say they couldn’t see this coming. Less than a year after we sent soldiers into Afghanistan, four wives were killed at Fort Bragg. Two of their husbands committed suicide.

Although it has been known under many names, it was first officially identified in World War I.

Military doctors knew it was there but it was largely ignored. In World War II the Army Surgeon General said it was severely limiting the time our soldiers and Marines could stay on the front line.

WHAT ARE THE SIGNS OF SYMPTOMS OF PTSD (MedicineNet.com)

The three groups of symptoms that are required to assign the diagnosis of PTSD are recurrent re-experiencing of the trauma (for example, troublesome memories, flashbacks that are usually caused by reminders of the traumatic events, recurring nightmares about the trauma and/or dissociative reliving of the trauma),avoidance to the point of having a phobia of places, people, and experiences that remind the sufferer of the trauma and a general numbing of emotional responsiveness, and chronic physical signs of hyperarousal, including sleep problems, trouble concentrating, irritability, anger, poor concentration, blackouts or difficulty remembering things, increased tendency and reaction to being startled, and hypervigilance to threat. The emotional numbing of PTSD may present as a lack of interest in activities that used to be enjoyed (anhedonia), emotional deadness, distancing oneself from people, and/or a sense of a foreshortened future (for example, not being able to think about the future or make future plans, not believing one will live much longer). At least one re-experiencing symptom, three avoidance/numbing symptoms, and two hyperarousal symptoms must be present for at least one month and must cause significant distress or functional impairment in order for the diagnosis of PTSD to be assigned. PTSD is considered of chronic duration if it persists for three months or more.

A similar disorder in terms of symptom repertoire is acute stress disorder. The major differences between the two disorders are that acute stress disorder symptoms persist from two days to four weeks, and a fewer number of traumatic symptoms are required to make the diagnosis as compared to PTSD.

In children, re-experiencing the trauma may occur through repeated play that has trauma-related themes instead of through memories, and distressing dreams may have more general content rather than of the traumatic event itself. As in adults, at least one re-experiencing symptom, three avoidance/numbing symptoms, and two hyperarousal symptoms must be present for at least one month and must cause significant distress or functional impairment in order for the diagnosis of PTSD to be assigned. When symptoms have been present for less than one month, a diagnosis of acute stress disorder (ASD) can be made.

Symptoms of PTSD that tend to be associated with C-PTSD include: problems regulating feelings, which can result in suicidal thoughts, explosive anger, or passive aggressive behaviors; a tendency to forget the trauma or feel detached from one's life (dissociation) or body (depersonalization); persistent feelings of helplessness, shame, guilt, or being completely different from others; feeling the perpetrator of trauma is all-powerful and preoccupation with either revenge against or allegiance with the perpetrator; and severe change in those things that give the sufferer meaning, like a loss of spiritual faith or an o

WHAT CAUSES IT: (MedicineNet.com):

Virtually any trauma, defined as an event that is life-threatening or that severely compromises the emotional well-being of an individual or causes intense fear, may cause PTSD. Such events often include either experiencing or witnessing a severe accident or physical injury, receiving a life-threatening medical diagnosis, being the victim of kidnapping or torture, exposure to war combat or to a natural disaster, exposure to other disaster (for example, plane crash) or terrorist attack, being the victim of rape, mugging, robbery, or assault, enduring physical, sexual, emotional, or other forms of abuse, as well as involvement in civil conflict. Although the diagnosis of PTSD currently requires that the sufferer has a history of experiencing a traumatic event as defined here, people may develop PTSD in reaction to events that may not qualify as traumatic but can be devastating life events like divorce or unemployment.

  • Print
  • Share:
  • Share
  • Digg
  • Reddit
  • Facebook
  • Stumbleupon
News Stories
 >
  • News Source: Canadian Free Press | 12 days ago
    Could it be that Hasan was steadily radicalized and steeped in hateful Islamofascism? Could it be a jihad mindset that sent Hasan into that military clinic yelling Allahu Akbar as he shot at anyone that got in his way?...Ridiculously, it was a...
  • News Source: Washington Post | 12 days ago
    Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who allegedly gunned down dozens of people at Fort Hood last week before being wounded by police, is conscious and talking to medical personnel at a U.S. Army hospital in San Antonio, hospital officials said...
  • News Source: The Guardian | 12 days ago
    Thirteen people were killed in a shooting at the base last week. Photograph: Tannen Maury/EPA Investigators hoping to determine what drove Nidal Hasan, a US army major, to a deadly shooting rampage last week are examining his contacts with a fiery...
  • News Source: Al Jazeera | 12 days ago
    Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who was shot by civilian police during the attack on Thursday, is in a stable condition, Dewey Mitchell, a spokesman at Brooke Army Medical Centre, said on Monday. Investigators are continuing to search for a motive...
  • News Source: Alternet | 12 days ago
    Although the facts, and clues about motive, are still being uncovered, we know that the alleged shooter, 39-year-old Major Nidal Malik Hasan, is an American-born medical doctor and licensed psychiatrist, who also happens to be a Muslim born to...
  • News Source: BBC | 12 days ago
    Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old army psychiatrist, injured another 30 people at the Fort Hood base in Texas. He was shot by police and had been in a coma in hospital since Friday's attack. Maj Hasan's motives for the shooting are unknown, but...
Blogs
 >
  • Blog Source: www.truthout.org
    “A soldier entered the 'Soldier Readiness Center (SRC)' with two handguns and opened fire,” the soldier, who is currently getting treatment for traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) explained. ... “Nearly 20
  • Blog Source: blog.beliefnet.com
    CNN quoting a soldier based at Fort Hood as having said that the base is so big that a lot of soldiers struggling with PTSD are not getting the help they need. Same soldier said that the Army has lowered its standards in recent years ...
  • Blog Source: www.fearofstuff.com
    PTSD 1 It is not uncommon for individuals to experience seasons of intense stress. When the stress is extremely high it can create an atmosphere for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). What is PTSD and how can it be treated? ... Many individuals
  • Blog Source: cold-war-veterans-blog.blogspot.com
    Veterans diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) will find it easier to file VA disability claims. They will no longer be required to provide evidence—other than their own testimony—of an event that caused their PTSD. ... of a
  • Blog Source: healmyptsd.com
    I however, wanted to educate the other clients about trauma, and more specifically, about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). I began my group like any other, asking my clients what they knew about PTSD and trauma in general. After discussing
  • Blog Source: www.emaxhealth.com
    Nearly 7.7 million Americans have post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) at any given time, according to the National Institute of Mental Health, which also notes that about 30 percent of men and women who have spent time in war zones experience ...
Images
 >
 
Videos
 >
 
Posted By AnneHart AnneHart | 16 days ago
Is it true or myth that a new phobia now is listed somewhere - Iraqaphobia, or is that just a bumper-sticker/tee shirt slogan spin on arachnaphobia?
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
That is a good question. Now that we know he is alive perhaps we will find out. My guess is that Army soldiers would not insult him for that reason.
Posted By AsherKade AsherKade | 16 days ago
robertweller: You have good material, but your sentences aren't complete and it's hard to understand your article because of it. It sorta looks like you wrote this in a hurry, which I am sure you didn't. Just friendly advice. Keep up the good work!
Reply By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
Yes, I did wrote it in a hurry because I only found out about it late. FYI, I have been in many combat and other violent situations as a reporter (even Columbine). I have PTSD. I discovered it while writing about it at Fort Carson. Thanks for the comment incomplete sentences. Part of that is the rush and part is changing from one browser and word processor to another and cutting and pasting. I am now going to go over every line. Thanks. RW.
Posted By AsherKade AsherKade | 16 days ago
ps: my dad fought in 'Nam and was stationed at FT. Hood. He had severe PTSD to the point he still doesn't eat or drink after anyone, even mom. He also sleeps ina tight ball wrapped with sheets over his head. He didn't blow people's brains out. While it's valide our troops have probably spent too much time in the war, and they are exhausted beyond belief, that is a cop out for the shooter. I bet he goes for the insanity defense and gets three nice meals a day in a government mental ward for several years until he is released on full medical and meds. Those families of the dead soldiers will have to work at Burger King to make up for the lost wages of those dead spouses. I don't say this in spite. I say this in truth. My dad is getting great Vet benefits (sarcastically speaking) even as he lays dying 35 years later from Agent Orange!
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
asherkade
i hope i caught most if not all the problems.

i have had nightmares where people were killing me, even raping me. i was screaming but my wife couldn't wake me and had to bring our 18-year-old twins downstairs to get me up.

there are obvious areas i am not going to go. however one thing i know from my psychologist and psychiatrist, both ex Army colonels, is that too much exposure to depression, ptsd, and other mental diseases can cause a doctor to begin suffering it. I don't know what his combat record, if any, was.

I have met many, many PTSD victims. We need a bigger Army or Obama and co. need to diminish their ambitions. We are not Rome.
Posted By CaliforniaMike CaliforniaMike | 16 days ago
A well thought out piece, but it is rarely useful to jump to conclusions in the first hours after something like this. In the first 24 hours after Oklahoma City, several Muslims were beaten and killed because the media jumped to conclusions.

Let's wait and get the facts.
Posted By missheartlessjen missheartlessjen | 16 days ago
Im truely sorry for the family and friends and other who are hurt by this incident. I just saw the news and i am shocked. God Bless
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
Mike: I have no reason to believe that his religion had anything to do with this. If I suggested it I apologize. More likely is his continued exposure to soldiers with PTSD. That kind of thing, as well as depression, can rub off on care givers. Soon we will hear those who try to assign the whole thing to him being a Muslim and opposing the wars. Many, many Christian soldiers also oppose the wars.
Posted By shaheinm shaheinm | 16 days ago
As a Psychology minor, I appreciate your desire to create awareness of the horrors of PTSD. Too often people make difficult decisions without full knowledge of the potential consequences.

The only real quarrel I have with your article (other than the previously addressed grammatical errors) is the title. Are you implying that the US Government had something to do with this tragedy? If so, please provide evidence of such. Even if that isn't what you mean, I would hope that an article would at least be related to its own title. I don't quite see that here.
Reply By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
How could it be more related? I have been covering this for three years and have met dozens of victims. I have written dozens of articles about the cost of the Army's failure to treat PTSD, and its sending soldiers who aren't well to war. Google Robert Weller PTSD and PTSD Fort Carson. Go to the Truthout Web site and others. What does it take? This guy was right in the heart of the mental health apparatus and was not noticed.
Reply By shaheinm shaheinm | 15 days ago
In this light, then, I would be more inclined to blame the military itself, not the government. I know the military is an entity of the government, but failure to report PTSD and its symptoms play a large role here. It doesn't go unnoticed. People just don't say anything for fear of being humiliated. The society created by the military is too intense. My point is, be less global, more specific as to the sources and perpetrators of such problems.
Posted By SharonPrimack SharonPrimack | 16 days ago
This is so so devastating. I have a friend whose son is in Afganastan and is due to return in 2 weeks. I hope he comes back safe and sound!
Posted By cloud9devine cloud9devine | 16 days ago
This is sad,sad news. I was at school when I first heard about it. I hope this incident is a wake-up call to our current administration in Washington about the men and women who comeback from war and dealing with PTSD. It may be a much BIGGER issue than what we think.
Posted By ahol888 ahol888 | 16 days ago
I am ticked off at the government for allowing these wars to continue. I have sent e-mails to the Dept. of Defense on how they could end these wars within three months, but they choose not to listen to solutions. Thus, disasters will continue. My condolences to the families at Ft. Hood.
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
How could it be more related? I have been covering this for three years and have met dozens of victims. I have written dozens of articles about the cost of the Army's failure to treat PTSD, and its sending soldiers who aren't well to war. Google Robert Weller PTSD and PTSD Fort Carson. Go to the Truthout Web site and others. What does it take? This guy was right in the heart of the mental health apparatus and was not noticed.
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
For those who want to find in one spot considerable information go to the www.gazette.com and look at their series on what happened when soldiers suffering from PTSD and other problems went outside the base and killed at least eight people. Several of them killed each other. Watch the movie Garrison if you can bear the violence. Earlier this year a soldier walked into a health center downrange and killed several doctors. There are many, many examples. The only thing really different is, as the Army has said, never in our history have soldiers spent so long in intense combat.
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 16 days ago
Lastly the Army has repeatedly admitted it doesn't have enough troops. And now they want to send more to Afghanistan. They know we need a draft, if these two wars are going to continue, but they are afraid because America will come down on their heads.
Posted By LolaAhmed LolaAhmed | 15 days ago
This is sad,sad news. I was at school when I first heard about it. I hope this incident is a wake-up call to our current administration in Washington about the men and women who comeback from war and dealing with PTSD. It may be a much BIGGER issue than what we think.
Posted By Redhanded101 Redhanded101 | 15 days ago
The only problem with your thesis is that in this instance, Major Malik Nadal Hasan supposedly was never on the battlefield or did any tours.

I could see if it was someone who had recently come back from Afghanistan or Iraq. I know it's to early to speculate, but a few people at the base and co-workers of Hasan were interviewed and theysaid that this guy had often talked about Muslims rising up againsts Americans and that Muslims should not be fighting Muslims. We can take this with a grain of salt or we can perk up our ears and look into this.

It seems to me that this is not an isolated tragedy. It has happened in Arkasas and in NJ as well. For a different perspective you can refer to my post.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4562517-lone-jihadist-still-alive
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 15 days ago
Re the headline. Two governments have been in charge and let the army fail to do its job. And Obama appears headed to send more troops. As I said, this doctor's constant involvement with PTSD soldiers could have rubbed off on him. As others have mentioned there have been several incidents like this. Of course this case may not involve PTSD but case after case happens and nothing is done. It takes something like this to get the attention of the nation.
Posted By AKADE777 AKADE777 | 15 days ago
working for a para-military position, I am angry at how this happened and for many reasons too lengthy to discuss in this forum. I can relate to being put in a position where you deal with crap all day long and there's no one to go to because you don't want to burden your spouse, you don't want to have your kids see you cry and break down, and your boss barks orders all day long with NO concern for your well-being. "BE STRONG" is the message crammed down your throat. Why there wasn't anyone listening to this guy before he blew his top is beyond my understanding. There were signs, even if they didn't know this exact thing would happen, there were signs of trouble.He never did any tours, and only after I posted my last comment did I find out he was Muslim. That didn't change my opinion about this situation one bit. It's the infrastructure of our government, and military, that was partly to blame. There were too many entities, too many people involved, and it's way too compliacted of a sitation to find fault with just one person or group. We would be better off to change how we deal with those in the military and how we service their needs than waste time pointing fingers and arguing about it.

ASHER KADE VIA MOBILE
Reply By shaheinm shaheinm | 15 days ago
Precisely my point. The military culture does not allow for people to openly share and discuss their problems. And it does not promote reporting of things like PTSD, or symptoms thereof. You can't just blame Obama and the government for this. There are much more specific factors to consider.
Posted By LittleTorriest LittleTorriest | 15 days ago
omg thats too bad
Posted By kdub16 kdub16 | 15 days ago
this video is good
Posted By JKemp JKemp | 15 days ago
iraqphobia? LoL, crazy. Its really sad though to see so many people fear deployment. Even a man not connected to much family and not in a dangerous positions (Or considered front line etc) fear it so much, as this guy is an example of.
Posted By cloud9devine cloud9devine | 15 days ago
That's bizarre.. LolaAhmed said the EXACT same thing I said.. how the HECK?? Did this person copy my comment? WTF?? Anyone know HOW this could have happened?
Posted By bobgamera bobgamera | 15 days ago
Thats so sad i hope the killer gets whats coming to him!!!!
Posted By Thomoon Thomoon | 15 days ago
let this be an example for an end to imperialism
Posted By GeoMan GeoMan | 15 days ago
Not bad man, but it would probably be better if it was in color!
Commented on the Image: Maj. Hassan Accused Killer At Fort Hood
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 15 days ago
I am not a psychiatrist and I am not trying to find an excuse for what happened. It would be nice to find a way to reduce the chance of it happening again. You do not have to be in combat to suffer PTSD. Ask firefighters/police. However, if he was developing a growing feel that what he was doing was wrong I imagine he could lose control. A retired colonel who did his best to hang him ought to be called in and asked why he didn't report this. I spent nine years reporting on Columbine and several years reporting on PTSD. They seem to have something in color both the boy killers and the the doctor felt abused.
Posted By robertweller robertweller | 14 days ago
now it is known that the psychiatrist was being driven nuts (since i am not a psychiatrist i will stick to what i known) by having to counsel muslim soldiers troubled by being sent to kill other muslims. how did the military not notice this since he apparently made his feelings well known. did he ask for a discharge?
Reported by robertweller

Related Allvoices Contributions

Report Your News Got a similar story?
Add it to the network!

Or add related content to this report

Cell phones Cell phones use report code: @4562176

Most Popular Reports

Related Tweets

Related Allvoices Reports

Related People

Contributions

Help and Accounts


Use of this site is governed by our Terms of Use Agreement and Privacy Policy.

© Allvoices, Inc 2008-2009. All rights reserved.