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Noam Chomsky: Israel's worst enemies are those who support its policies.

Brandon : Canada | about 1 month ago  
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Chomsky has always been a critic of Israel in spite of (or maybe because of) the fact his parents are Jewish. He has also been quite critical of U.S. foreign policy. This is just part of the article reporting on his speech. Chomsky thinks that the expansion of Jewish settlement is responsible for much of the moral deterioration of Israel and chastises those who have supported that policy. The article is in the Irish Times.

""Israel's worst enemies are those who support its policies, claims Chomsky
PAUL CULLEN

Wed, Nov 04, 2009

ISRAEL'S GREATEST enemies are those who support its decline into moral degeneration and destruction, philosopher and political activist Noam Chomsky has told an audience in Dublin.

Chomsky, who is retired professor of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said Israel was once a civilised society similar to those found in Scandinavia. Now, however, that has changed. There is high inequality just as in the US, and the social security system has collapsed, he said.

In the 1970s, he said, Israel had a choice between security within its existing borders and expansion into settlements and it chose expansion.

It was not possible to carry out the military occupation this required and at the same time maintain elementary moral values. "The worst enemies of Israel were those supporting it. What they were in fact supporting was its moral degeneration and ultimate destruction," said Chomsky.

Chomsky, the son of Jewish parents from Pennsylvania, said that at one stage he considered going to live in Israel but "now I prefer to come to Dublin".

He was speaking at the College Historical Society, or Hist, in TCD, which yesterday awarded him a gold medal for outstanding contribution to public discourse.".....""

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  • Posted By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 1 month ago
    From the moment I saw an illegal settlement, my attitude toward Israel changed radically.
  • Posted By BobMartin BobMartin | about 1 month ago
    Balderdash!

    According to International Law, ratified by several Treaties and Accords, we have a right to live any place from the Jordan to the Mediterranean.

    For more than a year I lived in the Shomron. Currently I live in Sderot. Sderot is supposed to be inside the "green line" - but we frequently come under rocket attack - always timed just after the adhan, and sometimes 5 times a day, including Shabbat.

    Jewish farmers in the Negev - also well within the "green line" are currently being attacked by marauding bands of Islamic jihadis. Their livestock are stolen, their dogs poisoned, their houses burned, and when possible, they're physically attacked. What, exactly is motivating this hate? The Koran and the idiocy of semi-educated "liberals" (dhimmis to the Muslims) who refuse to accept reality.

    Mythomania is difficult to overcome, particularly when it gets lodged in the subjective minds of superficially educated people with "advanced" degrees.

    For those who might actually bother to think for themselves and not be persuaded by vicious Islamic and Marxist propaganda, here are some easily available resources. If you find errors of fact, report them to the authors.

    http://www.mythsandfacts.org/
    http://tinyurl.com/ykvxetl
    http://www.justicenow4israel.com/
    http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/
  • Reply By BorderExplorer BorderExplorer | about 1 month ago
    I've always wondered how the illegal settlements were justified or rationalized. I will investigate your links. Thanks.
  • Posted By BobMartin1 BobMartin1 | about 1 month ago
    The actual facts are 180 degrees from what Chomsky, Said, and all who follow them say.

    All the countries in the "Middle East" were carved out of the Ottoman Empire.

    The Mandate for Palestine established the Homeland for the Jewish people, originally including what is today called Jordan.

    The British were given responsibility for building the Jewish homeland. However, the Laurentian Pan-Arab element in the government managed to scuttle the Jewish homeland in favor of the Arabs.

    77% of the original land alloted for our Homeland was illegally taken away from us by the British. All Jews living East of the Jordan were forcibly dislocated, taken East of the Jordan. This was the 1922 Partition.

    But almost immediately, the Muslims agitated and their antisemitic allies in the British government (at that time actually a majority) once again stole Jewish land and installed the Muslims in the ancient "Biblical" heartland. This became what's today called "the green line" or the "67 Borders".

    If you'll study the Charters of Fatah, PLO, Hamas, and all the other orgs you'll see that their goal is to eliminate ALL Jewish presence in Israel - except for those of us who will agree to live as dhimmis, as had been the case for more than 1,300 years.

    The ideology of Islam and Marxist-inspired political movements can't tolerate Jewish National sovereignty. This intolerance is at the root of all agitation against us today.

    I've lived among the Muslims and don't hate them as individuals. 99.9% of us here feel the same way I do. But their ideology, on the whole, is historically so hostile to us that there is no hope for peaceful coexistence. This is a harsh reality that took me a long time to accept.

    Look at their media, translated by IMRA, MEMRI, and others. (google those terms). They have a well-funded propaganda machine that's indistinguishable from the one that put the NSDAP in power in Germany.

    What's troubling today is the wholesale acceptance of flat-out lies about our presence here, and how we treat the Muslims. We don't oppress them in any way. To the contrary, we continue working to provide housing, medical attention, food, education to them. This simply doesn't happen in Muslim dominated countries.

    Americans are generally kind and benevolent people who side with those they perceive as oppressed. The images of oppression are drummed into the minds of media consumers who, for the most part, have no critical thinking skills.

    I personally have no hope that the American and European Intelligencia will change their views - until Islamic Sharia law begins to censor them. At present, the Saudi-funded propaganda machine has enlisted millions of what the Communists called "useful idiots."

    No matter what, enough of us here will resist all efforts to remove us from our rightful property. We've survived more than 1,830 years of enormous hostility and will survive the current wave of hate and violence.
  • Posted By Ross1776 Ross1776 | about 1 month ago
    Most of those now living in Israel are not Jews at all, at least not the Israelites or Jews of the bible but Azkanezi converts from Eastern Europe and Georgia. Who and which is a communistic mindset, hence the establishment in Israel of the kibbutz's - which is a communistic form of land and social form of government in and of itself.

    And the fact is that this "accord" was entered into between the British and a banker in the establishment of Israel even prior to World War I, which means that World War II in and of itself had much to do with actually that original agreement itself - terrorizing then the Jews in Europe in order to then get them to migrate and leave their homes in Europe. And for a country such as the U.S. that is established on freedom of religion to continue to support a country that is not at all based on that foundation, ludicrous really at this point.

    Since the U.S. had nothing at all to do with that original agreement, the Balfour Doctrine, to begin with, and this country has taken in more Aakenazi's since World War I than any of the Euopean nations combined.
  • Reply By BobMartin BobMartin | about 1 month ago
    I see you've been studying Ted Pike, Noam Chomsky, David Duke, & Edward Said.

    What you say is mostly nonsense, easily disproven if you'll bother to read something other than antisemitic propaganda.
  • Reply By BobMartin BobMartin | about 1 month ago
    I see you've been watching Ted Pike, David Duke, Noam Chomsky, & Edward Said.

    You turn out all the generalizations and distortions of every antisemitic propaganda organ-grinder since the late 1800s.

    Strictly form the perspective of International Law, if we have no claim to this land, then neither do any of the Islamic states established at the same time, by the same International powers, have a claim to their land.

    And neither do Greece, France, Spain, Portugal, and so on.

    For that matter, we can extend your argument in the manner of Prouhoun: "Property is theft."

    Therefore, you don't have a right to live where you are.

    But putting aside your absurd argument, the U.S. is bound by Treaties and Pacts to honor the 1922 Partition.
  • Posted By Ross1776 Ross1776 | about 1 month ago
    Since that original accord establishing Israel was entered into by a British lord and a zionist banker even prior to World War I, and the fact that since that time the U.S. has taken in more Askenazi Jews than any other nation in the entire world (and Askenazi's are not the Jews of the bible whatsoever, but mostly Russian converts from the 12th century, and actually communistic in most of their beliefs - thus the entire kibbutz ideas of "communal living" were brought from the Russian Jewish homes.

    And Yiddish is a Germanic language, not based in the bible at all.

    And it is time for the U.S. to get out of this mess once and for all, since we were not even a part of that original agreement, and this country is based on freedom of religion, whereas Israel is not at all.

    And more Christians have historically died for their faith than Jews, and many at the hands really of the Askenazi's themselves.
  • Posted By BobMartin BobMartin | about 1 month ago
    You have a very distorted concept of the historical and present-day situation here in Israel.

    What does Yiddish have to do with anything? Most of the Jews in Israel speak in the language of the countries from which they were forced to leave in 1948. There are Persians, Iraqis, Yemenites, Morrocans. Many speak French, Spanish, Arabic.

    If we have no legitimate claim to this land by International Law, then neither do any of the nations and states of the world have a legitimate claim to their land.

    Treaties and accords were entered into after the 1922 Partition, which ws a ratification of the terms of that Partition.

    The fact that British antisemites and their Muslim partners subverted the Mandate weighs heavily in this issue. These facts are in the public record, but obscured by the constant drone of the Islamic organ-grinders and their dhimmis (that's you).

    Your claims can't be substantiated by any legal facts, only by distorted propaganda. The base of your argument is antisemitic dissembling. And against this callous, prejudiced way of thinking, rational discussion has no effect.
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