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America needs health care not Insurance care! Get rid of the Filibuster 5!

By: jmsjoin send a private message
Washington : DC : USA | about 1 month ago  
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Conservatives are a problem, in this case it is conservative Democrats! Obama should campaign against them! Conservative Democrats are already conniving to defeat the opt out public option. I hope they do, it will be their Waterloo!

This was a wise move by Senator Reid. It may save his Senate seat! I just love this. We keep hearing that 75% of the public want the public option and Republican Senators do not want to give it to them. This is great, now the people will take it out on their Senators if they don't give them the public option. People need help.

Many are losing their houses and going bankrupt because of ill health and no insurance. You know, 14,000 every day lose their health insurance. Premiums are going through the roof and will continue to skyrocket. The insurance industry will continue to raise them and blame it on Obama and the public option.

This is a crisis and something has to be done! This was gutsy of Reid, It is about time! Like it or not the system is going to change.

The opt out public option won't destroy the industry but they will go up on the rates just to say see we told you. They decide who lives and dies and do not want to be forced to cover sick people.

I heard this morning that the insurance companies take 30% right off the top. That is worse than the Mafia. Vegas is only allowed to take 18%

I also heard that Obama is being ridiculed saying he will cut $80 Billion saving it in waste. I listened to it on Keith Olbermann and there was an analysis done and it was grossly underestimated. It was more like $800 Billion because of waste and fraud. Expensive tests are given when not needed to save the Doctor time to squeeze in more patients.

Expensive procedures are used when a cheap one would suffice so Doctors can make more profit and they are trying to minimize law suits. All this has to stop and I am sure it is much worse.

As you may know, Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, and Mary Landreaux, Lincoln, and Bayh, are threatening to vote with the Republicans to defeat the public option. With so many people hurting I wish they would. It would be the end of their career. When all is said and done and this comes up to a vote I am confident there will be compromise but it will pass in some form. We better start holding this slime accountable now and at the polls!

I keep hearing today Pelosi is going to introduce another Bill some say it will not have a robust public option, Some like Congressman Clyburn who knows what she is going to introduce says it will have a very robust public option. Man my head is spinning again! If Pelosi introduces a bill without a healthy public option that will be a defeat

* I used to be a fan of Lieberman's if only because his wife is from my town of Gardner and they were here when he was running for President. Forget it! That turncoat was for the public option before he was against it because his state of Connecticut's insurance industry gave him a million dollars. He used to represent the 68% of blue voters that make up his State.

They better start calling out their turncoat Senator! Get rid of him.He does not represent them or America only the insurance industry! * IT IS TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY! We no longer have a party that represents the people. The hell with the phony tea partiers being called the Real Americans. THE REAL AMERICANS BETTER STAND UP!

I understand that even if it passes it will not be in effect until 2013 meaning those that think they will get instant relief are going to continue to hurt for years! The way things go 2013 would be early and I expect much later is more like it. That it will happen and a public option looking more likely bodes well for Obama in 2012 but only if our economy, the average Americans economy improves as the other economy the economy of the wealthy is now! The only way our economy will recover is if health care reform is passed with some form of a public option. I believe op out in the end will make enough op in to get it passed!

As you can see we must pass this and can not put it off as it will take years to get it activated and those against it will keep prolonging it. I hope all Democrats remember Teddy Kennedy. Hear his voice and come together to give health care to all Americans. Think of his legacy! Conservative Democrats seem to want nothing but to stand in the way. They have to be put in their place by Obama. He must grow a spine!

Obama should stand up and let Democratic Senators know that he will campaign against any one that votes against the public option. Lieberman threatens to filibuster his friend Harry Reid's Bill but Reid said that though Lieberman represents Connecticut's huge insurance Industry his friend will not disappoint him in the end. Lieberman he said is the least of his worries though I do not like him always making his worthless self the center of attention!

James Joiner

Gardner, Ma

http://www.anaveragepatriot.com/

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  • News Source: United Press International | about 1 month ago
    Sen. Joseph Lieberman , Ind-Conn., said Sunday that he would join a Republican filibuster to stop the creation of a government-run health plan option. Lieberman, appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation," said he disagreed with Senate Democrats who...
  • News Source: Reuters | about 1 month ago
    House of Representatives plan to offer an alternative to Democrats' massive healthcare reform bill that would not raise taxes or require people or businesses to buy health insurance, the House Republican leader said on Sunday. House Democrats last...
  • News Source: The Hill | about 1 month ago
    Interviewed on CBS's "Face the Nation," the independent member of the Democratic Caucus said doing "nothing" is better than a so-called public option. "'Nothing' is better than getting that," Lieberman said. "We ought to follow the doctors' oath and...
  • News Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette | about 1 month ago
    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid could say. "You wanna read the phone book out loud and recite the lyrics of George M. Cohan songs while sick people are denied the care they desperately need?...I was wondering the same thing, so I put the question...
  • News Source: The Hutchinson News | about 1 month ago
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  • News Source: The Hill | about 1 month ago
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  • Posted By ladyjtalks ladyjtalks | about 1 month ago
    As always, love you writing. And this is quite the issue in this day and age of instant replies. The real shame to me is that I've heard the same arguements for well over thirty years and the only thing that has changed is the cost that rises. Watching the videos related to it from the news hub and small business against really only echoe what we've heard before. I bet there are a lot of older news reporters sitting back saying the same thing. As always where it ends up will be the surprise in the end. And yes, 30% off the top is a wrong. Scary for people who don't have insurance for sure these days. I still think that every working person should get Medicare benefits and none paid working/disabled/unemployed should get Medicaid...which by the way has a star program where the medicaid pays an HMO to cover you in case most people didn't know that. Now how those hmo's are picked we can only wonder but in New York you could chose from three different companies. Some might think that the government hasn't been into hmo's yet they have. Jacki M
  • Posted By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
    Good article. I would have to agree with most of it, if not all of it. I worte an article on the study that Olbermann reported on. The percentage of waste for things that are so easy to fix is alarming.
  • Reply By newt7899 newt7899 | about 1 month ago
    yupp good article yes the percentage of waste for things that are so easly fix
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Thanks LadyJ! I am so sick of hearing the lies so the insurance companies can continue their illicit gains and control who lives and dies. They own the country and the Government but not Obama.

    We will get some form of Government option because Obama knows without it the average American's economy will not improve. I am on a government program as I use the VA. I love it that is why I use it. Best care I ever got. 47 million are already on one including Politicians. I am sick of thee fear mongering!
  • Reply By gforce5 gforce5 | about 1 month ago
    Health care has nothing to do with the downfall of the economy. It's common government brainwashing to keep us away from the real problems that are still going on. The government want to be in total control over everything, including our lives.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Thanks Amalgam! I heard some of that on Olbermann and a dozen more. Funny but I am often up off and on all night and hear some things over and over till I have to write about it no notes needed.

    I was just on the phone with a friend in Cali and we were talking about Lieberman. I am peeved that those scums can in essence saying we are going to screw the people and that is it. Get rid of all of them!
  • Posted By firesisle firesisle | about 1 month ago
    Maybe insurance care, the right insurance care is exactly what the doctor ordered. Read this and tell me what you think:

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4514839-harry-reid-and-nancy-pelosi-will-never-go-along-with-this

    There is a way way we can all win, and leave private industry intact to grow our economy.
  • Posted By AKADE777 AKADE777 | about 1 month ago
    I hope we pass the public option(preferably) or any health care reform ASAP because I am sick of hearing about this crap in the news. The health insurance companies didn't come into national power over night. The wall street giants didn't become millionaires overnight. This has been going on for decades and decades. And it probably will go on for many more years because no one is willing to shut up,listen,agree,come to a resolution, and take improperly assigned power away from corporations. Please, NoBama, do something so our ears will stop bleeding. We need to infuse the media with more interesting crap to read about like Octomom and Gosslein dating each other!(note satire)

    ASHER KADE VIA MOBILE
  • Posted By andri andri | about 1 month ago
    i agree jmsjoin, in my country, the people is hard to believe health insurance
  • Posted By andri andri | about 1 month ago
    i agree jmsjoin, in my country, the people is hard to believe health insurance
  • Posted By thehunterman thehunterman | about 1 month ago
    Good article. Thanks for writing it .
  • Posted By tulan3 tulan3 | about 1 month ago
    This was a good article, better than a lot i've read.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    You got it Asher! Insurance companies own the Government and us. They decide who gets covered and who lives or dies. They do not want their gravy train to end and this why all the BS!
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Thanks Guys!
  • Posted By winebroker winebroker | about 1 month ago
    Good article. Thanks for writing it .
  • Posted By Mr-E2ugudsir Mr-E2ugudsir | about 1 month ago
    I think its a waste of time complaining to absolutely no one on this website. i think it is much better to oh i don't know tell someone who is actually pulling some weight on the issues stated here on this website :p
    Commented on the Story: Enemy of the people | Maura Keaney
  • Posted By JeffMalkus JeffMalkus | about 1 month ago
    wow. thanks for the article.
  • Posted By treasureguy treasureguy | about 1 month ago
    Definitely agreed good article
  • Posted By Vo1ce Vo1ce | about 1 month ago
    Wow, great article... Keep it up!
  • Posted By Duderotomy Duderotomy | about 1 month ago
    Contrary to your views, we do not need a public option...it will create RATIONED CARE targeted at us 75 million Baby Boomers...we will get end of life comfort care instead of recieving life saving care, our lives ended at the hands of government run Committees...in short, that amounts to a Baby Boomer Genocide, death panels of the worst kind that we can imagine.

    I don't particularly like LIEberman, but he and a few other Democrats need to join with the Republicans to stop this Government attempt at socializing our American Medical System.
  • Reply By gforce5 gforce5 | about 1 month ago
    Thank you. I agree.
  • Posted By brockly brockly | about 1 month ago
    Great article, I agree with some of the things you say but not all.
  • Posted By getkrunk2 getkrunk2 | about 1 month ago
    very true, i Agree with most of the ideals you but not everything. but again its my opinion
  • Posted By israelseen israelseen | about 1 month ago
    Since when is it a crime to disagree . The last I heard is that America is free and is a democracy. But wait tolerance of differing views appears not to be a part of the liberal-left agenda. More like fascism?
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Thanks everyone!

    Duderotomy 50 million are already on socialized health care with the VA including active military, the elderly, disabled, and many of those hypocrites in Congress!

    Israelseen it is not a crime to disagree but at this level it should be for lying and dis informing to control and pervert the system and the people!
  • Posted By Duderotomy Duderotomy | about 1 month ago
    JMSJOIN:

    Social Security...all but broke...where is our money...oh, that's right, the government STOLE IT.

    Medicare/Medicaid-again broke, and services are horrid.

    VA-Like Walter Reed? Like the soldiers killing themselves because the VA fails to get them the help they need for their PTSD?

    What's our FEDERAL DEFICIT? How many trillions?

    Lets not forget the Swine Flu vacine disaster...talk about a dismal HEALTH CARE FAILURE.

    But you want to let the most corrupt government in the world run our health care system?

    Stop drinking the Jim Jones Koolaid!
  • Reply By israelseen israelseen | about 1 month ago
    Duderotomy,

    I must admit that everything you mentioned is unfortunately true.

    Government has created opportunity for greed and corruption both within the government and in the market place by the use of cynical political interests to stir up a bee hive that has inflicted this catastrophe onto the American people.

    The Barney Franks, Pelosi's and the Administration lackeys have a decadent history of exploitation of the capital markets by forcing them to take on undue risks for political capital with constituencies.

    I am not letting the greed of the market place get off here but that said the spiral downward since Bush 1 into the present admin has caused undue suffering and a collapse of the financial sector when the appropriate laws were in place to regulate but ignored for political interests.
  • Reply By Duderotomy Duderotomy | about 1 month ago
    Israelseen:

    It is clear, that this healthcare bill (short time)will see one group pay a very high price for Health Care Reform, as a supposed paridigm shift occurs to a preventive based system of care...that group unfortunately is 75 Million Baby Boomers who are rapidly approaching our supposed Golden Years. In short, we will have our access to services greatly limited, our access to Quality Care rationed...we will be allowed to die...that is genocide, that is death panels.

    With all due respect to the younger generation, 20 million illegal aliens and their anchor babies as welll as those who support them, we in the Baby Boomer generation have sacrificed enough in the name of the so called greater societal good. For too many decades now, too many have wanted a FREE RIDE, and have had no problems asking us to pick up the tab, pay the price...pick your poison here, from huge hikes in what we paid into the Social Security System, Reagans 1986 AMNESTY, to Affirmative Action...enough already.

    The American government is corrupt, the progressive movement is corrupt, ACCORN is corrupt, MoveOn.org is corrupt, as is every Latino Advocacy Group in America (Think MALDEF and LaRaza). Cutting Medicare by some 500 Billion at a time when some 45 million new American Boomers are getting ready to go onto is not only wrong, it is CRIMINAL. The American government cannot be entrusted with 1/6 of our economy, and you cannot sentence 75 Million Baby Boomers to an early death in the name of some ill fated grand social experiment...but, the posters here, the author himself all want to suckle at the teat of Nancy Pelosi's lies and deciets, want to continue beating the something for nothing drums of insanity...enough already.

    This corrupt greed is both Republican and Democrat in nature, President's CLinton and Obama just as vile and repugnant as George Bush ever thought of being. Main Street American, and to a great degree White American working men have been marginalized, pushed to the side in the name of cheap wages and Affirmative Action, and still the MiddleClass Holocaust continues because those at the bottom of the ladder are screaming louder in demanding comprehensive health coverage, in demanding AMNESTY for illegal aliens...tell me where it is fair that 7.5 Million Illegal Aliens have jobs while over 16 million LEGAL AMERICANS are out of work. Tell me where it is fair that I have to pay an extra dollar a pack in taxes on my cigarettes so that OBama could provide health insurance coverage to the 4.5 Million Anchor Babies born to illegal aliens.

    Wake up...the worse thing this nation can do is having our Congress and President pass Health Care Reform that includes a public option.
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