Time for Democrats to dump Lieberman

I don't think the Dems will use reconciliation; the political fallout would be disastrous. they do it, they're setting a very dangerous president, one that could easily be turned against them by the will of the American people.

Should 2010 turn into a Democratic train wreck, it could give the incoming Republicans a huge tool that they've avoided using in the past. In this case, I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze...

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To think I actually used to have some measure of respect for Lieberman. Even after he changed parties and moved from being a Democrat to a registered Independent, I still thought he had some relevence.

That all went out the window today.

Actually, as long as he votes with he Republicans, he's very relevant.

I haven't liked Lieberman since the 2000 election and it's precisely days like these my hate for the man is justified.

I really don't understand why he is still around.

Maybe the Democrat's who he represents are really"Closet Republicans" or heaven forbid moderate Democrats.

THis is politics. When Olympia Snowe backed the Baucus Bill, Republicans were upset with her. When Arlen Specter switched parties to become a Democrat when his political life was at stake, Republicans were upset.

Democrats - Suck it up.

Not everyone is on board with this Public option. Joe Liberman just happens to reflect the opinion of millions of Americans who are like minded on this Bill.

One of my friends calls him "Traitor Joe."

What does she call Arlen Specter?

A man who finally figured out the right side to be on.

Maybe the right side if by right you mean "party that is in favor this year". Trust me, the Democrats do NOT represent the will of the people and will be getting a big boot in the upcoming election.

What side is that if he loses re-election?

*lol* Isn't that kind of a double standard?

Specter's reasoning on why he switched parties was that he did not want to put his political career on the line based on the results of a Primary Race.

"I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate"

If the Democratic Party is the right side to be on, he is going to be in for a big surprise come 2010.

What an idiot. I've always hated him.

Joe Lieberman needs to join the GOP, forevermore.
We should force a public option with 51 Senate votes.
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Possible, and they'll posture as if they're serious, but they really don't dare because they'd be setting a precedent that could easily come back to bite them in the butt in the near future. I wouldn't count on it happening.

I think you're right - in addition, they are discussing using reconciliation for education reform too which means they would have to pair both together in one reconciliation because they can only push one through per budget year. It's not only a gamble - and not only something that might come back to bite them...it WILL come back to bite them if they lose 2010 and they will forever go down in history as the party that ran on a bipartisan ticket and used reconciliation for a huge piece of legislation that was not what reconciliation was intended to be used for.

Rick Weissenstein, a health care analyst for Concept Capital's Washington Research Group said: "I think it would be perceived, certainly by Republicans and moderates, as a last ditch effort to pass something that didn't have popular support," he said. "If you've gotten to that point, in some ways you've kind of lost the war."

OVer the summer it was thought to never be something the Democrats would resort to...now it seems it is.

The only question I have is this: Why would the current Democrats ever place their futures on the line to allow this verses waiting a re-writing a bill that the American people support and one that would win bipartisan support?

Have we really come to that point in this country?

If so, unfortunately - they will use reconciliation in a way it was not intended to be used for and it may be the end of utopia for the Democrats who at one point were said to have anchored 40 years or more of majority after the Bush years.

Things sure do change quick.

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Wow Kevin- thanks for the excellent addition to the string.

Joe Lieberman had my respect because he voted YES on a measure to post bills online for 48 hours before they were voted on. The rest of the Democrats voted NO! This is why I think the Democratic party either needs to be dissolved or taken over by the Blue Dogs and people like Joe Lieberman! The Democrats don't even try to hide their political corruption any more. They just openly screw the people of the USA at every opportunity.

Kevin,
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