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By: amalgam80 send a private message
Washington : DC : USA | about 1 month ago  
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With the recent battle between Conservatives and Republicans taking place across the nation, the reenergized conservative movement may in fact “fix” the Republican Party.

But I wanted to look at the situation as whether this is good for the Republican Party, is it good for the Democratic Party, is it good for the American politics and the American people.

“The Tea Party”

Is it time for a new political party to be established?

We already have the Libertarian Party, The Green Party, there are a couple of other conservative parties, but nothing as strong as The Tea Party.

Has the Tea Party brought along a new nationally legitimate political organization?

Well many think so and many more are joining their ranks.

I don’t think the Republicans vs. the Conservatives feud will last much longer, pretty soon the Tea Party will merge back into the Republican Party or they will be left by the wayside.

According to the “teabaggers” themselves, the Tea Party movement is more to the right than the Republican Party.

This feud is about there being more people in Congress that believe in the things and therefore will vote on things that more right than the Republican Party has in the past.

They want a person in Congress that will vote more like the ideal conservative, instead of a centrist conservative.

This fight is easier to do in New York’s 23rd, than it will be in the rest of the country. The Republican running for office in the 23rd district is being labeled a Democrat in disguise,, a liberal in a conservative’s clothing.

The Tea Party has spent the summer attacking people that are more along the lines of a centrist, labeling them far left. And now the Republican Party is suffering from the same accusation. In the summer it was originally aimed at Democrats, whether they be centrist or leftist, but now the crosshairs of the Tea Party are on Republican centrists.

And when you are so far to the right that the center looks left, feuds like this emerge.

“Not Bad”

This movement is not bad for the Republican Party, at least not yet. It may be bad if the movement continues to run against the Republican Party in 2010. But in my opinion the Tea Party will have accomplished its goal by that time.

The Tea Party angst is definitely doing harm to the Republican running for office in New York and also the lesser mentioned Florida candidate. But in the end the people elected by the Tea Party will ultimately side with the Republicans on the most part.

Much like Bernie Sanders sides with Democrats on most issues.

Newt Gingrich, former Republican holder of the position now being occupied by the Democrat Nancy Pelosi, perhaps put it best by saying that you can not win elections with 20% of the vote. You can not win an election nationally with only 20% of the votes.

This situation is viewed by liberals as almost the same way as Newt views it.

Newt thinks that if the Tea Partiers don’t join with the Republican Party instead of fight the Republican Party, it just means that there will be more Democrats in office after 2102 and Obama will still be the President after 2012.

I don’t view it the same way.

After losing a couple of seats to the Tea Partiers the Republican Party will find a way to get the Tea Partiers to joins their ranks again. The passion and the noise the Tea Partiers have are undeniably needed by the Republicans and they will rally for it.

And if the Tea Party movement can produce a few fresh faces, the Republican Party will find itself with a few new leaders. Perhaps even one that will beat Obama in 2012.

Just as the Tea Party has the potential of destroying the chances of Republicans getting into office, it also has the potential to bring a Republican into the President’s seat.

When the Green Party was successful in achieving enough voters to “steal” the election away from the Democrat Al Gore to the Republican George W. Bush, the blame on the Green Party was ridiculous.

If the Democratic nominee had been a stronger nominee, the Green Party nominee never would have won the votes he did.

If the nation hadn’t changed its mind as to what it wanted, the Democratic nominee would have had more votes.

The Green Party had not stolen the election away from the Democrats, the Democrats did it themselves, with a little help from the Republicans.

The failure and success of the Tea Party movement will depend on what lessons the Republicans learned from the 2000 election.

“This is good for America”

Every so often, I believe, it is necessary for political parties to realign themselves with their base and the rest of the American people. After 2000 it was the Democrats that had to realign themselves, after 2008 it’s the Republican’s turn.

The Democrats reemerged stronger from the realignment and so will the Republicans.

I believe it was the man who said “it’s the economy stupid” who said Democrats can’t win elections acting like Republicans.

The same may be true for the Republicans acting like Democrats.

It seems to me that the Tea Partiers are trying to get the Republicans to start acting like Republicans should act like. A Republican should have been much more fiscally responsible than the previous Republican President.

This feud is good for America because ultimately the Republican Party will emerge looking more like Conservatives as opposed to Conservatives-lite.

A stronger Republican Party makes the political process stronger.

In the end, the Tea Party will look less like the Tea Party of now, and the Republican Party will look less like the Republican Party of now. They will both have learned important lessons.

“More to it”

There is more to this than I’ve actually talked about. The potential of hurting the GOP is there, especially in next year’s election.

But overall and in the long term, I think the Tea Party will have made the GOP stronger.

Epilogue:

Before the left celebrates the breaking up of the Republican Party, it should be noted that the Democratic Party though united just little over a year ago, is now arguing with itself without the help of any other political party emerging from the left.

The Democratic Party has the majority in the House and the Senate, as well as a member in the White House, but where is the public option that would have covered every single person that could not afford health insurance?

Why are we not out of Iraq yet?

Where are the Wall Street regulations?

And why are my student loans and tuitions still escalating at a rate higher than the nation’s deficit?

Why are there so many state governments going bankrupt?

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  • Posted By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
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  • Posted By firesisle firesisle | about 1 month ago
    You make some very sentient points, and I think you've summed up what many conservatives have been thinking for a while now. Those who routinely discount the conservatives and Republicans are underestimating them, and that could lead to very serious changes in the next Congressional elections, similar to what happened in Clinton's first term.

    I'm not sure that Tea Baggers are to the right of the Republican party; I tend to think they are more representative of classic Republican values, returning to the support of individual rights vs. government abuse. As you said, regardless of the eventual outcome, it will make the political process stronger.

    Great article!
  • Reply By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
    thanks fireisle.

    The Tea party being to the right of the Republican party was based on the complaint from Conservatives that teh GOP has moved away from it's base.
  • Posted By Redhanded101 Redhanded101 | about 1 month ago
    Recent Polls continue to show that this country by a large margin is 76% Center - Right. There are many people that belive in and Conservative values and would like to see a strong Republican candidate that shares these values. If that candidate were to emerge, this country would definitely get behind that person. Conservatives do not need to change their core values and beliefs. Conservatives need to gevern like Conservatives instead of taking on the appearnace of Democrats or becoming RINO's.

    Tea party Protestors was a grassroots movement and a signal that Conservatives can rise up and come together.
  • Posted By pollard pollard | about 1 month ago
    Fire and Red
    I agree, the tea party is the true republican party(before it was highjacked) if a legitamate candidate were to emerge, they could and would lead the party with the backing of most republicans and quite a few democrat's.
  • Reply By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
    hijacked by who?

    You guys voted them in. you do't like them anymore, vote them out. There's no hijacking. the hijacking only occured if you fell for what the media wanted you to do, and then you did it without making your own decision. Then maybe I'd consider it hijacking, but even then I don't think it's highjacking because you still voted for them.
  • Reply By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
    Those same polls weren't too different during election time last year either. If someone asked me if I was a liberal or conservative, I'd tell them a conservative too. And I think everyone here agrees that compared to you guys, I'm liberal.

    I don't know if people calling themselves liberals has ever broken 30%.

    What matters is, where will the people vote, not whether they are liberal or conservative. I thnk when Obama was elected the people identifing themselves as liberal was at 26%, yet he received most of the votes.
  • Reply By Redhanded101 Redhanded101 | about 1 month ago
    A80,

    I hope you have been following the Governor's races in Virginia and NJ as well as the special election for the 23rd Congressional District in Upstate NY. That will really start to tell you how people will vote in 2010 and 2012.
  • Reply By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
    Red

    Yeah, people have been telling me that for a while now, but I don't think they are good indicators of future elections, especially not 2012. There's a longtime between now and 2012.

    In my opinion elections are indicators of the time period they are held on and that is it.
  • Posted By pollard pollard | about 1 month ago
    A80
    You made the point for me, on the hijacking comment:
    Those same polls weren't too different during election time last year either. If someone asked me if I was a liberal or conservative,( I'd tell them a conservative too. And I think everyone here agrees that compared to you guys, I'm liberal.)

    A Lie is a Lie.
  • Reply By amalgam80 amalgam80 | about 1 month ago
    What's the lie?

    Where's the hijacking?

    I'm confused by your comment.

    Who's hijacked the Republican Party? Other Republicans?

    Did you(plural) not vote them in?

    Who'd you vote for the last election for Congress?

    I voted Democrat.

    What did you vote?

    I am an Independent, sometimes I go Republican sometimes Democrat and Sometimes I'd rather not vote.

    But I don't ever claim any one party has been hijacked. Someone voted them in.
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