Healthcare in Puyallup? What health care in Puyallup?

Isn't a Doctor's first oath "Never do harm"

I don't think that Sound Family Medicine Doctors have ever heard of such a thing or it's forgotten the second that they walk out of those college doors.

Who do they take that oath for? Do they believe that it isn't a law abiding oath, that is' just like at the end of brownies when you get all of your badges to iron on to your vest? That's it not really serious? Well, it is a law abiding oath but it seems that more and more doctors simply don't care. I guess people could tell themselves that if they do nothing then they really aren't involved, but doing nothing in the face of losing a life is a disgusting proposition in this case. Do people really deserve to die because they don't have their L&I claim number on them or they forgot their insurance card at home? Is that really worth losing someone's life? Or because the ER is packed and you really don't feel like getting into it. Doctors with attitudes such as this-"This is what I said it is, now this is what it is." Period. Go home, the hospital is for sick people. I can tell you this, I would love to be in a room with no windows and some boxing gloes with that arrogant little smuck. My husband was begging him, he's not a beggar, I told him that, that, that was not typical nor normal behaviour for my husband. Nobody cared, they were too worried about handing out drugs to people who actually need them, that's SO entirely caring! I can't wait to go see the doctor next! I wonder how much money he can get out of me? Not much....I can guarantee that. You know, I just don't understand. I really don't

Do you think you know your body? After 20, 30, 40+ years in the same body I think that it is pretty safe to assume that a whole hell of a lot of us know what our bodies feel like and all times during our life. Why is so impossible to believe someone when they come in tell a doctor that they don't believe that is what they have? I definitely know my body. And my husband knew his but nodoby would believe it until it was almost too late. Well, Guess again. Walk into the doctor's office and tell them that you have something more than a pulled muscle. See what happens. Doctors do not like to be contradicted, especially not by YOU, or ME, the consumer. You know, the one who lives with the same body, day in and day out. The one who should know their body better than anybody else in the entire world. But it seems to me that most doctors, not all of course, seem to always think that they know best and that you couldn't possibly know, who are you? You're certainly no doctor. Well, you shouldn't have to have a degree and license to be able to talk to your doctor and have him not only listen, but also take you seriously and address your questions and concerns.

Like the case of Michael J. Dedinsky. This is a fairly healthy and active 44 year old man. He hikes, skies, drift boats, fishes, camps, and bicycles just to name a few. The company that he works for has given him top secret security clearance, he is the explosives man, he is a union steward, etc. etc. etc. Very high up there job duties I would say. And top secret security clearance for the military, you have no idea how long that takes and what hoops have to be gone through. He's had several.

Now, I'm getting wordy. Let's trim the fat. My husband pulled a small muscle in his back at work. No biggie. It just hurts a little. He's definitely felt worse. He goes to work the next day without much ado but that night in bed it really started to get to him. He kept telling me it wasn't a pulled muscle, there was no way. So here we start our journey. Off to the first ER visit. They give him a shot and some pills and send him on his way telling him that it's a muscle spazm and he needs to exercise the area. Ha! His legs were giving out on him as he would try to get out of bed and he would land on the floor. Sometimes only to be stuck their for hours. They said it was because of the pain in the back, it was shutting down nerve receptors and that is why his legs were giving out. At least that is the bologne I remember hearing. Well, after 2 ER visits, and 4 walkin clinic visits, nothing. They kept shooting him with drugs and sending him home. He had been asking, practically begging, for them to admit him to the hospital because he KNEW that there was something else wrong, that what he had was no ordinary muscle spasm. Do you have any idea what this doctor at Good Sam in Puyallup, Wa told my husband? He looked him in the eye very mater of factly and said hospitals are for sick people, you are not sick. You need to go home and you need to walk on it for at least 20 minutes a day. Are you kidding me? That could have killed this man. Oh, how very little did that 'quack' know.

We leave to go home and what do you know. We have a day with no ER visits after the initial. Maybe he will be alright. He got up and was trying to walk for 20 minutes but you could just see it tearing him apart. He tried, he gave it his best effort. the very next day, Michael wakes up with his knee three times its normal size and it was on fire. You could barely touch it. So, back to the clinic so that we may be blessed enough to skip the ER. No such luck. He didn't send us in that night, even though my husband has a history of DVT. He told him to wait until the morning and the imaging center would call us. No call ever came. So, naturally, I called them. Closed due to snow. How do you figure?

At this point in time I give my husband an ultimatum. Either he gets in the car with me and I take him or I'm calling and ambulance, it was his choice and he chose the car. Can you imagine how one might feel knowing that they have to go back to the same ER where you are told that basically, you're just a big baby, all that you have is a muscle tear,or spazm, now go home. They certainly didn't balk this time. Well, I guess I really can't say that. We were in the ER for over 12-13 hours before anything REALLY happened. And when it did, boy oh boy.

A doctor had actually drawn fluid from my husbands knee, immediately you could see that it was not right. He sent it off for testing and let us know that It would be a while and when he had the results he would come and speak to us. He managed to make back in for about five minutes. Before that a nurse had come in and stated something about not knowing why were inthe waiting room because the bacterial test had come back positive or something again to that affect. Well, what that fluid came back as was septic infection. The doctor never came back but a nurse did to tell my husband that surgery was in 30 minutes. Hello? What in the hell are you people talking about??? NOBODY had come in and said they were going to do surgery to me. Obviously the doc forgot about us. And it just so happens the nurse did too. I don't think he ever didi receive any heated blankets.

So anyway, get out of surgery and up to room. Still no doctor but the patient advocate is there as she has heard about the situation. I let her know that I still have no idea of what is going on and she apologieses profusely and says she will get the doc in as soon as possible. She finally shows up so much later and says she went to some other waiting room looking for me. I was right next to surgery, I don't know how she could have missed me.

So, they had cleaned out and irrigated his knee. they are pumping him full of all kinds of heavy duty antibiotics as well as some heavy heavy drugs. He was out of it most of the time which in the end turned out horrible for me. I missed him so much and I had no idea what was going to happen to him.

Later the next day the neurosurgeon is talking about checking out the knee again and making sure there was nothing left. I asker her if it was possible to get and MRI on his back, afterall this is where the pain started. "Oh, no honey." "We are going to fix the knee and then we will take a look at his back." I was floored. You are going to have him in there anyway, what's the damn difference. Apparently a substanatial one becuase she really refused to do the MRI and it was not done.

A day or so later his infectious disease doctor is there. I finally look up him, he's rumored to be the most inteligent doctor in the hospital there and I could see and believe it. He's very prefessional and doesn't mince words. He says it as he sees it. It was a reliefe. Well, they are getting pretty close to letting my husband come home and I'm pretty close to panicking. I said look, I don't want to bring him back here for this, please, please look at his back? This is where it all started. The leg and the shoulder were secondary and they didn't start until he started having to stay home after the first visit to St. Francis.

Now, he's had his knee cleaned and irrigated, twice is my understanding, and he has had two surgeries on his back. One was to remove a disk and some of the bone that had been damaged so badly from the infection eating away at it. He was in excruciating pain, pain like I have never seen anywone in. I couldn't touch him for months so afraid that I would hurt him. He aslo had to have a rotator cuff repair due to what we believe was the being yanked around from all of the surgeries.

They did everything to find a way to blame this on my husband. Getting staph infection inside your body is not so very common so of course they threw around such things as IV drug users, people at risk for AIDS-I was told that I didn't know what he did 20 years ago- and I said I know everything he's done, excuse you. It was humiliating and embarassing to hear people make inuendos like that. Wasn't it quit possible that when he got the pain shot at St Francis they introduced the staph into his system? I think it very well might be

He ended up spending 31/2 weeks in the hospital with no recollection on Xmas, our daughters 18th birthday, and new years eve. He was crushed. He was asked what date it was and he said December 15 or something to that affect. It was crushing.

These doctors had litterally stolen three weeks of his life. He remembered a thing here and a thing there but not very much, Not very much at all. It was for the better, the amount of pain he was in was severe and we have been informed that his pain may never go away. He still has a full knee replacement to go, he's only 45, and it will change our lives forever. He/we used to fish, hike, bicycle, run around down at our favorite river, kyaking-we were just going to get our instructor licenses last spring-Michael could still barely walk so that was definitely out of the question. It's going to slow him down so much and that is so NOT who he is. His life is literally changed for the rest of his life, it will never be the same. All because a couple/few doctors decided to make their minds up. They made a huge mistake that nearly cost my husband his life. He had 24-48 hours to live when we finally found the septic infection in his knee. Had it gone to his bloood stream who knows if I would have him here today and if he would be the same person.

This all could have been avoided. Had they done the MRI when he had requested then none of this would have happened. If these so-called doctors and PAs actually took the time to listen to their patients this could have been avoided. One little MRI, what is the price of an MRI compared to the cost of his 3 and 1/2 week hospital visit? And don't forget that the last few days were spent down in rehad at 18k or something ridiculous like that.

Sound Family Medicine in Puyallup and the pysicians there as well as the ER doctors at Good Sam nearly killed my husband. He saw one physician and three PAs there. Two PAs were horribly unprossional and not equipted to handle my husbands situation. One of them cut me off in the middle of my sentence. I was telling him what was administered at the ER so he could gauge his, my husbands, pain. He cut me off in the middle and stated that he didn't hand out narcotics. I think my jaw hit the floor. I tried to explain to him that I was trying to let him know his pain level but he kept right on being rude. PA Curtis Allen, I would definitely reccommend that you stay away from him. Just about any PA that is. Go see the real doctor, the price is the same. The PA has to work under a physicians license so there has to be a doctor there. It was Mr. Allen and Mr. Gibson who aided in my husband's condition. Had either one of them taken the time to listen to him. Mr. Gidbson practically threw us out of his office. It was snowing, I drive a little tiny Honda and had yet to drive it in the snow. I was cautious, we were late. He comes running in the room and is talking a mile a minute. He barely looks at my husband only the records from before so he pretty much plans on medicating him. I ask him about giving him Toradol which had given him some relief before and the doctor says in his snide voice "I'm not giving him that. That is highly addictive." well, if he would have been listening he would have head me say Toradal, not tramadol, he couldn't hear a word we said. We tried to ask a couple of question and we were told that he didn't have time for us, we were late and he had other patients. He begrudgingly wrote an MRI order but as he handed it to my husband he stated that he didn't know why he wanted one, nobody, and I mean nobody will pay for that MRI without your L&I number so good luck with that. Actually, I think it was a whole lot worse than that. At that point he stormed out of the room. He did, finally, give my husband the order for an MRI but along with that came the crass statement that he would give it to him, but he didn't know what for, nobody was going to take him if he had no L&I claim number for it to get paid. It was horribly humiliating. When I called to complain one of the supervisors mentioned that I was calling to complain about someone who didn't even work there anymore. Well, he might be gone but I would bet my right nut if I had one that the doctor whose license he was working under is still there and that is ultimately who is responsible for Physician Assistants.

This office really believes that it can get away with anything. I would suggest avoiding it at all costs! It was great 7 or so years ago when you could actually get a doctor's appointment that wasn't a whole month out. Now it has the same herd 'em in, and herd 'em out mentality as everybody else. It's really disgsting. One+ hour wait times with an appointment to get in to see your doctor. You cannot leave a message for you doctor specifically. I think that in the 7 year relationship that I had with my doctor I received one phone call from him but I think I'm just trippin, lol.

Is this what our medical community has turned into? Do we have to be more afraid of the doctors than what ails us? Are they so lazy that they can't even run tests requested by the patients, or does that bring us back to the power struggle on the sake of the doctor?

I'm afraid to go see anyone. The last guy that I went and saw after thirty minutes suggested that I have fibromyalgia. And he lied to me on top of it about a medication. He told me that it was NOT an antidepressant, that it worked similar but it worked on norepinephrine, the pain receptors as he called the,. I'm sorry for you folks out there who suffer from this phantom fibromyalgia but I myself, I don't believe in it. I have films from MRIs, I have reports, I have everything that they need to confirm that what ails me is not fibrobmyalgia. The headaches from my neck are real. The pain down my arm is real. The pain in my neck is real and the releif in my neck after some torsion therapy is also real. The pain in my low back is realer than real. I can walk maybe an hour and I have to sit down. I can sit in the car for 30 minutes and then it's time to start wriggling and trying to find a commfy spot, so much easier said than done. I truly don't mean to suggest that fybromyalgia sufferers do not have real pain, I believe you do. I just think that again, doctors tend to lump too many things into this catagory. It's so much easier for them than to actually have to read up on things that they may not know about. Look around, you don't always have to stick with one opinion!

These doctors need to be stopped. They need to follow a certain amount of patients that they are allowed to see in a day and they should NEVER make a patient feel rushed, it only causes anxiety and your never going to go anywhere there. They forget what they wanted to talk about and those issues that patients have, that we have, are important. We need to know that we can trust our doctors. No more backlogging/double booking. Or just stop going to such places. Start trying to find a local doctor, maybe one or two in the office and take it from there. I'm telling you, the bigger offices start bringing in big money and then they lose sight, if they ever even had it at all. I can tell you one thing though................these guys up here.............they are going down!

Bring back personal medicine. You know, go to places where your doctor isn't so comepletely overbooked for the day that you cannot even get a remote chance to speak with him during the day, or get a phone call back from him later. When you call the answering service and they say it can take up to 48 hours to get to your refills on your Rx...that's ridiculous. Find another doctor's office, that just screams we have too many patients and we can't keep up and your business is really not that important to us, where you are there's another right behind you ready to take your spot! Don't do it!

SOUND FAMILY MEDICINE IN PUYALLUP IS THE WORST PLACE TO GO EVER!!!!!!DON'T DO IT, EVEN IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT. SERIOUSLY BAD MEDICINE GOING ON. EVEN IF YOUR RIGHT ARM WAS CUT OFF AT ALL OF THE ARTERIES AND BLOOOD WAS SQUIRTING EVERYWHERE THE OLD LADY AT THE COUNTY WOULD GIVE YOU A BUNCH OF SHIT AND NOT PUT YOU THROUGH TO WHO YOU NEEDED TO GO TO. SHE WOULD PROBABLY TAKE AT LEAST 10-15 MINUTES TO GET EACH OF YOU CHECKED IN, MEANWHILE YOU ARE BLEEDING TO DEATH, AND SHE IS HAVING A HARD TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS MACHINE. SO, YOU MENTION THAT SO AND SO DOES IT THIS WAY AND THE GRANNY TAKES THE GLOVES OFF. SHE STARTS GETTING PRETTY RUDE AND SNIDE. WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T CALL HER BITCH EVEN THOUGH SHE IS OBVIOUSLY ACTING LIKE ONE BECAUSE YOU WILL BE KICKED OUT AND ALL OF YOUR FAMILY WITH YOU. THEY WONT BOTHER WITH YOUR STORY, THE EMPLOYEES STORY IS GOOD ENOUGH. AFTER BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH MY DOCTOR AT SOUND FAMILY MEDICINE, SUNRISE CLINIC, FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS, HE DISMISSED ME JUST LIKE THAT. NO PHONE CALL, NO NOTHING. AFTER SEVEN YEARS ONE WOULD BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF COMRADERE THERE, ANYTHING. A FEELING THAT I WAS OWED THAT MUCH SINCE I HADN'T EVEN DONE ANYTHING? WELL, I GUESS THAT I FOUND OUT NOW INSTEAD OF EVEN LATER. i WOULD HAVE HATED TO GET 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TO REALIZE THAT HE REALLY DIDN'T CARE FOR ME AS A PATIENT, I WAS ONLY EASY MONEY TO HIM. THAT WOULD HAVE SUCKED. ESPECIALLY SINCE NOTHING WAS EVER GETTING ANY BETTER WITH HIM. LETS SEE WHAT THE NEXT DOCTOR DOES, IF ANYTHING.