Conservatives are the True Party of the People
There is a lot of talk out there about the Conservatives being too vocal now that Barack Obama is our President. I couldn't agree more.
What's even more true is that in addition to the vocal outrage at our liberal President's uncontrolled spending – we've been fairly critical of Congress and by that I mean both Republicans as well as Democrats.
As a Conservative in America, I complete agree with writers who claim the Republicans are a lost party. However, unlike the liberal writers who lump Conservatives in with Republicans, I would argue that the Conservatives in America actually stand for something and the Republicans – well, they're better off labeled Democrats. It is the Conservatives of America that will eventually come to be known as the Republican party.
George W. Bush was about as fiscally irresponsible as any other President. Economics are not cut and dry and President's often are forced to shoulder different burdens, but ultimately in the end – they are forced to live with what they've accomplished and GWB was a fiscal mess.
McCain was a fiscal mess in the making as well. As the Republican candidate for President that ran against Obama we can at least say McCain was honest when he spoke to the American people and said he'd tax them. Obama went on night after night after night with the “hope and change” fiasco claiming he wouldn't tax you here, wouldn't tax you there – and in the end – he's going to tax you everywhere. He's not going to just lay it on the rich – everyone will feel the wrath of his over spending, especially the future generations.
Republicans used to be the party of responsibility. They represented a party of people dedicated to the law, a party that did not allow corruption to taint its ideology and knew that moving to the left would only allow for corruption and eventually to a undesired change in government.
However, the Republican party did just that. Pressured by media, the horror of being called out on anti-Affirmative Action regulation and the emergence of a need for “complete” political correctness in this Country, the Republicans swayed to the left. Then they fell right into the trap of the Progressives who used this shift to exploit the party.
Our country is not in the tank because of Conservatives. Our Nation is in the tank because of Progressives, Democrats and Republicans all converging into one great big pile of government. People like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd would have been the target of podium speech after speech of true Republicans who would have pointed out the blatant lies of the Democratic party and the cover-up of Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac by Frank (D-MA). The Republicans in Congress that followed without word or without one single demand for follow-up were not at all examples of the Republican party....they represented the Republican ideology in name plate only.. In addition to Frank, true Republicans would have also allowed Chris Dodd (D-CT) to seal his political coffin with his sweet heart mortgage deals and not for one second would they have even remotely thought of assuming responsibility for the current economic situation. If the backbone of the Republican party had not swayed to the left – it would never have been in the position it is today. We would not be a nation full of fiscally irresponsible politicians, we would have voted them out 3 elections ago.
Conservatives have always gotten a bad wrap. They speak their minds, they point out the decline of morality in our society, they point out the collapse of the American Dream and the slide into tyranny and all the while – they are correct, yet vilified. Conservatives act more like Republicans of the past than anything else. We correctly go on record and state it was the ramifications of repealing the Glass – Steagall Act (Clinton) and the Community Reinvestment Act (Carter) and the failure of the Republican party to stand against the Progressives that caused our current economic situation. Republicans in Congress (and the White House) buckled to the pressure of the media and the theory we must always do something for the greater good. Government put pressure on financial institutions to write bad loans and the result of that “great idea” that everyone should own a home was one enormous mess.
When Republicans failed to loudly denounce the actions of the governments control over deregulation, they failed at being fiscally responsible which was, at one time a corner stone of the party. Before long – we were (are) in the worst financial crisis since the great depression and everyone is pointing a finger at the person beside them.
Had Republicans held true to their base, they would have pointed out the obvious: If you use welfare as income in determining the qualifications a person has for a mortgage, you will write bad loans. If you allow banks who are the entities that grant the credit and allow the lending to invest other people's money into risky securities, enormous losses will eventually happen and those losses (as they came to do) would threaten the moral and ethical well being of the institutions and would bring about abuse. You want to hate the CEO's of this Country? Fine, but blame the government for allowing it to go as far as it did and also recognize it was probably done on purpose to put government in control of it all.
Progressives constantly argue the greater good argument or that the government has a responsibility to take care of its citizenship. However, in reality Progressives always end up harming the greater good in the end. They argue that they represent GOOD change when in reality, despite denouncing people such a Stalin, Castro or Chavez, they actually support the exact same BAD change. Play the cards – racism, inequality and speak of the greater good and somehow people will miss that they are being lead into hell. This is why Progressives purposely go after minorities. They promise a greater life and tell of the horrible evil corporations that hold the minorities down. Conservatives believe in the person. Conservatives believe in the core values and ethics of a person. Progressives do not, they repress the people and in the end always end up like the people they so adamantly claim not to be.
It is because of the loss of the true Republican and the emergence of the Progressives that the Conservative is so loud. The loss of the true Republican has allowed the political petri dish of lies to over populate and we are now filled with a Country that has lost its voice in their leaders and as loud as we scream we want it back – the media glorifies the plight of the Progressive only.
Conservatives are leading the REAL change. We are telling the truth. We are not purposely misleading the Nation.
American's need to focus on rebuilding their Nation and doing so starts with the recognition that we do not want an America that emulates the former Soviet Union or the current Cuba or Venezuela. We also need the Republican party to move back to its base and that is not left of center but rather – much more to the right of center where the majority of Americans are. We need to enlighten the youth of America. There is no America in socialism, there is no America in the fiscal irresponsibility of our current President OR his predecessors and that there is no America if we continue to allow the lies of the Progressives dominating Capital Hill and the White House to flourish.
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It's saying that the left was thriiled when the Towers collapse.
It's saying the left was sad from the fall of the wall to the collapse of the towers.
Wasn't CLinton President for like 8 years in between then, wouldn't the left be happy if Clinton was in office?
Also said that the left was sad that Soviet Russia fell to democracy because there wasn't an alternate government system left.
How does that make any sense?
China was still around.
Cuba was still around.
Monarchies.
He said the communism and Islam is filled with blood. As if capitalism and other religions are without blood on their hands.
He says things like the left cares about the gays, but doesn't care about the gays in regimes like Iran and other Islamic countries.
Um yeah, Iran and other Isalmic countries are not America. And the left in America hasn't even accomplished Gays in its military yet and gay marriage yet. They are not about to start a war with Iran just to help the gays there.
I could say in response that the right doesn't want to help gays in the U.S. let alone help gays in the Islamic countries. At least the left wants to help gays in the U.S.
He then goes on to say that the left doesn't care about the Israelis, that they side with the Palestinians...last I checked most of the Jewish people in America have a left leaning voting record.
Don't people always claim and joke about Jews in the media, and media being leftist?
I think the Jews side with Israel.
Isn't Rahm Emanuel Jewish?
Jon Stewart? Many other on the left are Jewish?
Don't we still give money to Israel? Do we give military aid to palestine?
He said that the left is in line with radical Islam. Do you really believe that? Who has Obama been bombing with Drones?
He said when Palestians killed and raped a Lebanonese family, it is that kind of hatred that the left thinks will get them paradise on earth.
He said the romance between radical Islam and the Left is that they don't like individualism.
Yeah right, all those dirty leftist hippies always protesting wars don't want individualism. Ask any American about individualism and personal rights, let's see what their responses are? I'm pretty sure you'll get a mixed response no matter who answers.
The left and the right are very much individualistic and function as a group too.
Family values usually encompass more than one person. Unless the family members are all in your head.
You want to ask Christians where they stand as far as individualism and community? You think there will be a lot of Christians saying they believe in community?
He says that the left hates music and entertainment. Are you freaking kidding me? I hope you don't really believe that. But if you do, I will definately need an explanation.
Isn't a stereotype of the left that they listen to music and throw a frisbee around, join the drama club and slack at home with their video games and liberal media?
He says that radical Islam and Lenin have the hate of music in common with the left.
He says the left hates happiness. riiiiiight...okay there, stop trying to make me laugh.
The reason being, the left hates happiness because if the people are happy they won't want to destroy the world and we all know the left wants to destroy the world.
He just said, the left hates Valentines Day.
Wow.
The right just claimed Valentines Day.
The reason behind that being that theleft hates individualism and therefore hates couples. They don't like seeing couples love each other.
Isn't that weird how the left hates individualism, but loves community, but hate couples and love, but loves orgies but is in line with radical Islam?
He just said Jew Hatred is the greatest greatest common ground between the left and radical Islam. That is sooooooo ridiculious.
totally totally warped perception of reality.
Certainly never got one from me and quite frankly - neither has Amal - she's a good writer which is what I base my arrows on.
Punditty too.
But if Digger is correct - then it would certainly explain a lot of my down arrows! :)
Want to explain to me how the right can protect being the real people. How do you explain the conservative party, as being the party of the people (which sounds really socialistic "the people")and still maintain your exclusive claim at individualism.
How do you as a conservative support public schools, libraries etc. and claim to not be socialistic?
Do you support the idea of social security? Or medicare? nation? community?
If you do support any one of those things, how about I pick on it and keep calling you a socialist for it.
You support roads. YOU COMMIE!!! and here I thought you were a conservative.
No mention of towers, no mention of anyone hating happiness, never said he hated the jews and Valentines Day does not even come up.
This SPECIFIC video is the only one I linked... about a family and thier oppression. That's all that the entire 9:39 discusses.
and he says the left sacrifices PEOPLE for ideology.
That's relevant to my article, which you obviously skipped over.
Yes he says that in this video and explains he reasons why in all the other parts.
He thinks what he thinks because of all the reasons I commented on.
His opinion is based on all those things.
That is what he said to explain his opinion on why he thinks "left sacrifices PEOPLE for ideology."
Do you believe in his conclusion just, not his reasoning?
"That's relevant to my article, which you obviously skipped over."
Nope, read the article then watched the video. The link is all the way at the bottom of the article.
Picked on things in common with your article.
He claimed that the left is so much against people, and FOR their ideology that they blah blah blah blah blah.
"the left sacrifices PEOPLE for ideology."
Does their ideology include people?
How do you explain the conservative party, as being the party of the people (which sounds really socialistic "the people")and still maintain your exclusive claim at individualism.
It's easy "Access to information, the common good, and freedom of creativity are critical concepts for the progressives."
Conservatives believe the individual can succeed - progressives sacrifice individual freedom and people for common good.
How do you as a conservative support public schools, libraries etc. and claim to not be socialistic?
The public school system is failing. Libraries are closing, and why? - Unions - another progressive ideology.
Do you support the idea of social security? Nope - I'd rather have my money in my paycheck to invest as I see fit - I think you said that as well in one of your comments. Social Security has been completely sacrificed for our governments lack of fiscal conservatism.
Or medicare? Agian - not really. If there is a need to support a person - I do not support the tossing of a person away. I believe we should promote self dedication and motivation - NOT government will take care of you mentality.
Should I google a list of conservatives like you did? I'll accept that you know a few of the people listed - and I can also assure you that many of the people on that list (Henry Ford might be one I'd choose) would not support this current government either.
Just one more - Taylor.... Lenin loved him thought the Taylor principles were just grand...
Taylors "ideological message required the suppression of all evidence of worker's dissent, of coercion, or of any human motives or aspirations other than those his vision of progress could encompass." Directly from the encylopedia. Yup, - Progressive to the core.
Thanks for the list.
Should have edited it first to prove your point though because that's what a true progressive would do. They would never have placed Taylor on the list.
can I have a few example of common goods?
Conservatives believes an idividual can succeed, can it? Really.
Tell me how an individual can succeed in a society of a few hundred million people, without some kind of common goods and some kind of sacrifice of individual rights?
I have to give up a lot of my pay check so that people in my society can have a basic education, libraries, safety and law enforcement.
I have to give up parts of my pay check to have a government. which in turn protects my rights. And provides services that are for the common good.
Conservatives believe in these common goods as well. Not going to say all conservatives believe in them, but a majority do.
I know libertarians are against public education.
Corporations were forced by the government and labor to allow us the weekend.
The 2 days off a week, a 40 hour work week, overtime pay.
Companies have to give up things for the common good of the nation as well.
Are conservatives against the concept of the weekend?
Are conservatives against the concept of law enforcement and the military?
I think the answer to that is no Conservtives are for those things, therefor conservatives are for common goods at the cost of an individual.
19 and in college?
No one is trying to put us back into the 50's - Conservatives are trying to make sure we still exist in 2050.
Seriously?
Conservatives are pretty full of themselves these days, it would seem.
They always do right and I do mean Right, whether in fact or in their dreams.
Conservatives shoulder the painful burden of their own points of view,
And if you don't believe as they do, they'll call *you* a liberal, too.
Conservatives, conservatives, conserving nothing but their own self-deceiving ways.
With society at the breaking point, they're in a place where ideology holds sway.
Pointing fingers and feeling so morally above the rest -
Judging as they do everyone else's missteps
Thinking that they hold the golden key,
Believing that they alone are deemed worthy.
Conservatives could fix the world if we'd all just change,
If we'd act the way they want us to, world peace would be in range!
Oh my conservative heroes and heroines,
the American Dream now feels like paraffin;
What can you do to make this wax museum of what used to be
Come to life again in the 21st century?
When conservatives start conserving and surrender their collective superiority complex,
When conservatives take a fearless moral inventory of their own ideological defects,
When conservatives quit living in their consumer-driven, mind-controlled suburban herds,
Then and only then will what they have to say be more than just another pile of pretty words.
"Progressives constantly argue the greater good argument or that the government has a responsibility to take care of its citizenship. However, in reality Progressives always end up harming the greater good in the end."
Yeah, that FDR, he really ruined the nation when he got Social Security passed (note: preceding sentence intended as sarcasm).
I think it's so funny in a funny-sad kind of way when conservatives get on this conservative-as-moral-guardians kick. Now, before someone labels me a typical Berkeley bleeding heart, I consider myself conservative about some things (pro-Second Amendment), liberal toward others (I support gay marriage), and middle-of-the-road on still others (cap-and-trade has its pros and cons).
But the amazing thing to me is that some conservatives (liberals, too, but this article happened to be by a conservative) get so caught up in the ideology of their political views that the reality of the real world around them somehow becomes subservient in their minds to the ideologically driven "shoulds" that largely comprise the worldview of the American conservative circa 2009.
It's almost always about judging the perceived moral defects of someone else or some other group. If conservative self-righteousness wasn't such a crippling factor in constructive dialogue about the future of the country, it would be simply funny, not funny-sad.
Did Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins complain about the hospital expansion of St Vincents that would have help thousands of poor because they didn't like the way the structure would look in THEIR neighborhood and because it was so dirty that Saradon would only take HER kids their as a last resort....before or after they jet setted to Venice for "South of the Border's" debute - They are SO in touch with the American people.
Personally, I think they referred to "those people out their" (the ones protesting FOR the hospital - the mostly lower income folks that needed it) as people below them. They love to tote the moral line when they are in front of the camera, and also just so long as it doesn't conflict with their property values and view.
Conservatives are not evil - but they don't like government in the private sector. If government had never taken away Glass Steagall and we had never had the community reinvestment- we would never have had the pressure to write bad loans. If they didn't allow bank to then sell those mortgages in high risk trades, it would never have lead to people doing it for profit. When the market was good - it was all good, and when it tanked it was all the private sector's fault. What you miss is that the minute they deregulated and companies like Citigroup and people like Sandy Weill went in and made record profits - the next thing that happens is the comapny is forecasted to produce more. and more. and more.
The government started a cycle that was doomed to fail - not the other way around and many conservatives have been saying this for years.
Sandy Weill was a Democrat who retired prior to the collapse - a very wealthy man.
Punditty - love the poem - replace the word conservative with liberal though and you've got a true poem.
Conservatism goes with the grain of American culture not against it. Conservatism taps into the the core values & deep sentiments of American life. Capitalism, Religion, Patriotism, individualism and optimism.
Conservatism is the common sense and common decency of ordinary men and women, working out their own lives in their own way—this is the heart of American conservatism today. Conservative wisdom and principles are derived from willingness to learn, not just from what is going on now, but from what has happened before.
This last quote from Reagan is very telling.
"The common sense and decency of ordinary men & women working out their own lives their own way."
Need not say more.
Conservatism goes with the grain of American culture not against it."
Conservatism is AMerica?
go to wikipedia and conservapedia or an actually encyclopedia or a political science book or anywhere else you can find information on liberalism and conservatism, and read about the two political philosophies.
I don't think either philosophy originated here.
Read up on John Locke and John Stuart Mills. Locke is credited as the founder of Liberalism (Classic Liberal, this is what modern conservatism stems from) and Mills is the the developer of Social Liberalism or New Liberalism (The kind you guys hate so much).
Read up on François-René de Chateaubriand. He is credited as developing conservatism (as you may be able to tell, he's French).
The Conservatism you believe in didn't come about till around the years leading up to 1900. It was further polished through time turning into Movement Conservatism in the 60s, and then turning into what it is now, Reagan Conservatism.
It was developed out of Classic Liberalism and Social Conservatism.
I live in Boston and last time I checked... it wasn't called the bible belt here.
I will say this for the liberal side, though: I think that in a lot of important ways, people who self-identify as liberals put people first and adapt their ideologies to fit the realities of what is occurring in the external world, whereas people who self-identify as conservatives tend to find fault with the "other" while placing deep emotional investments in their particular points of view or opinions as the only "right" or "moral" ones. This makes dialogue next to impossible, since everyone else is presumed "wrong" or "immoral" from the outset. Self-identifying conservatives, based on my observations, are far more likely to mistake subjectivity for objectivity, thus limiting their (perceived) options in finding workable solutions that don't offend their misplaced faith in Conservatism as an infallible guide though life.
This holds true for some liberals, too, of course, but based on my observations, I would say this kind of attitude is more of a conservative trait.
You surround yourself with like minded people.
"deep emotional investments in their particular points of view or opinions as the only "right" or "moral" ones. This makes dialogue next to impossible, since everyone else is presumed "wrong" or "immoral" from the outset"
I totally agree with this it's as true for some on the left as it is for some on the right. It's not branded by one party and I tend to think it's more deeply seeded in the Progressive.
Jargon - do you need the definition?
Could be interesting...
Heck, maybe it's already been done. I don't watch a lot of reality TV (nothing can top "Surviving Nugent"), but it might get some ratings. Bring in g. Gordon Liddy and Gore Vidal as special commentators. No weapons or physical challenges, though. That could get ugly.
However, the conservative views once held by the Republican party which to an extent are more liberal than one would think do not have enough followers nor strong enough speakers to make any sort of change. The same reason why the Green and Libertarian parties can't make a dent in the polls despite their constant growth. By the way, I am now a registered Green. But that's mostly because above all else I'm a bleeding heart when it comes to animal rights and environmental protection.
I am a strong advocate for animal rights - but I also understand the need to do animal testing as well. If you've ever seen a 2 year old diagnosed with Type I diabetes, you'd want lab rats tested too. Human trials only begin after extensive trials with animals. I think that needs to be done.... However, that said - the *ssholes that use animals to test hair products ... I have some mixes I'd like to put on their scalps.
I believe in protecting the environment as well, and I use solar panels at my home - which I would bet half the Liberals on this site do not. It's expensive to install and doesn't yield as nice an outcome here in the Northeast.
That said - there is also a difference in protecting the environment and crippling our manufacturing industry which the passage of Cap and Trade will do and God forbid a signature on Kyoto.
I agree the Republicans have made some wicked bad moves and need to get their act together if they ever intend to bring a base back - and with that - I mean expanding to young voters.
I think the hardest part in attracting the youth vote is simply that it is hard to understand the ramifications and drain of huge amounts of taxes if you do not own property, have a family, need to pay for daycare, schools, mortgages - and on and on. It's easier (although I think I missed a few rent payments in order to make a happy hour more than once) when you're young to think it should be more equal. I thought that way myself once.
When I graduated from college (ironically - with the same unemployment statistics) we were really nervous about our futures. I took an editing job working over night for nothing and eventually moved to the day shift. I resented my boss making more money when I worked harder...or so I thought.... time made me realise I could not have been more wrong.
What I am saying is that the Liberal ideology SOUNDS better - especially when you're struggling to find a job and you're not making as much as YOU think you're worth --- but it isn't... it only masquerades the future which will always be the same.
I want my kids to be able to go to school and I want them to succeed based on hard work and dreams and an ability to excel. I don't want them to be forced to have a government job - be told what to do - or to be tied down to a mountain of debt laid on them by my generation.
It's not about you when you have kids, and that's a different mentality verses young and indestructible.
I was a democrat all through college and for my early twenties - the thing is - I worked hard and did really well in my career. That gave me the ability to see how hard some people worked for their goals and how some people were thrilled to have a 37.5 hour work week. That's ok - they were happy they didn't have the 70 hr week I had...and that's fine! The thing is...
I always want people to have the choice. If gov't takes over everything, if capitalism goes by the wayside for socialism - well, that's all gone and I feel sorry for today's graduates if in the next 10 years that ability to prosper in free markets is stolen from them.
I've thoroughly enjoyed having you here on Allvoices! You're going to have a great future ahead of you!
Oh, and a lot of people don't agree with me and give the thumbs down. It used to piss me off - but not anymore - I know one person who does it without reading the articles - but she's petty - and that's part of writing~!
Take care,
Maryann
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