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Corruption charges used by the UK to reinstate colonialism

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Cockburn Harbour : Turks and Caicos Islands | about 1 month ago  
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Why does the UK tout itself as the ultimate moral authority to act like parents of countries enjoying autonomy? Currently, in places like Ghana and Turks and Caicos, the UK has imposed its will on the people and the government citing corruption as its reason to provide its immaculate relief to the people.

There are a few problems with UK's theories of abolishing countries' and territories' self-governance due to corruption.

For starters, Westminster can invest in cleaning its own house for a change. Earlier this year, members of parliament were caught cheating and skimming just for the same members of parliament shortly after to be awarded the equivalent of $400 each day for expenses (per diem). What's more is that this money requires no accounting or receipts for the expenditures.

Could it be time for Westminster to do its own house cleaning instead of breaking into others' homes ordering the services at the expense of the homeowner?

The UK "invaded" (for lack of a more suitable word) the Turks and Caicos Islands in August, upon its investigation of corruption, allegedly at the hands of the former Michael Misick government. The cost of the investigation came at the expense of the Turks and Caicos people. Upon UK's "finding of corruption", it installed its own officials, hiked taxes and cut benefits; all at the expense of the Turks and Caicos people. If the UK is trying to save Turks and Caicos, at it so conveniently claims, why then is it making these changes to the detriment of the people and at the people's expense?

Today, the government of the Cayman Islands announced that it is considering suing the UK government for Cayman's expenses in fighting corruption charges and expenses passed on to the government in the resulting investigation.

In the case of Ghana, in West Africa, the UK is again seen there meddling in corruption charges against developers who have been rumored to have been acting on behalf of the UK's interests in bribing officials.

So deep but common is UK's allegation of developer/government bribes that the crimes and corruption department in the UK has been tied several times before from completing its investigation and criminal charges.

The UK government is purportedly behind the so-called bribes using development companies as a front. UK special prosecutor Helen Garlick (who is now installed in Turks and Caicos) was ensnared in this same scenario when she investigated and attempted to prosecute corruption charges, in the UK against officials from Saudi Arabia for bribes. Garlick was relieved of her duties when she insisted on prosecution even after former Prime Minister Tony Blair tried to stop the prosecution. Garlick retreated into private practice for what she called "political reasons."

Helen Garlick now finds herself in Turks and Caicos under the same guise of prosecuting so-called corrupt former officials. Mind you, the citizens' constitutional rights to jury trials have been suspended in the islands. This is not to allow the accused of receiving an unbias verdict, it is due to UK's assertion that a jury panel of incorruptible jurors could not be assembled in Turks and Caicos.

The same people who complained of corruption in Turks and Caicos are the same individuals being questioned for fraudulent claims of corruption and are accused of trying to take over the government and resort developments by filing false claims.

Helen Garlick, the installed special prosecutor from UK, also realises that corruption charges can be a farce. In April, Garlick sat on a panel wherein she spoke for over ten minutes providing a glimpse of how an arbitrary and needless allegation of corruption "... could have such unforeseeable ripple effects."

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Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Good to see you back Chris, I was beginning to think you'd given up.

If your boss is innocent, why has he run away? There are so many people in TCI who would very much like to talk to him.
Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
Shaun, who's my boss? I forgot who it is today. Every day you claim it's someone else.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Now anyone who looks at my comments will see that's not true, so that's a silly thing to make up. Where is Cem? Will we ever see him again?
Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
Why do you lie so much. Are you a pathelogical liar? You accused me of working for Michael Misick, Floyd Seymour, Cem Kinay, Mario Hoffmann, Lord Ashcroft ... let me scare up those comments just to further expose what a liar you are. Plausible deniability does not work with me.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
You work for Cem Kinay. I've never said you worked for anyone else. If you're going to invent some comments for me I hope they're better written than your articles.
Posted By ilike2comment ilike2comment | about 1 month ago
The sooner everybody realizes that they need to tackle the economy in the good interest for everybody, the better.
By playing dirty political games, the country as a whole only suffers.
These games are always only in the interest of a few individuals and for their own agendas. It is never for the good of all the people.

This tiny country depends on tourism to create jobs and keep the economy ticking. The more these political games are played, the more investment is either placed on hold or scared off for good. The people are the ones who suffer or lose their jobs in the end.

The Turks and Caicos should run their own affairs, distinguish who are the troublemakers form those who have their interests in mind, and get on with the business of boosting the economy.

With the current situation, if I was a foreign investor, I would be too scared to invest my money. It seems that there are too many people who wants to stop development and progress. For their self-interest and not for that of the average person on the Islands.

The country needs foreign investors. Not for them to run away. The economy is so small that it can never survive all by itself. It is a practical impossibility. The belongers should seriously consider this point. It is one thing to be proud of your country and to seemingly protect your own interests, but your own interests are also dependent on foreign capital. Like it or not.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
At the moment, the main disincentive to foreign investors is the fear that someone like this author's boss will steal their money.
Posted By ilike2comment ilike2comment | about 1 month ago
I have a couple of questions Jimmy if you do not mind.

Firstly: Who do you reckon the author's boss is?
If it is this Kinay guy, then he is surely a foreign investor not right?
And if he is a foreign investor, how can he possibly steal the people's money?
I mean - HE is after all the one who is investing millions right?
So those millions are tied up in developments in the TCI from what I understand. These developments are fixed property.
You cannot exactly run away with a building or a development.
Your money is tied up in it and at the mercy of the current dispensation.

So how does he steal any body's money then? If it is all HIS own money tied up in these projects.
If I was the developer, I would say the worry is the other way around. That it is the investor that should worry about the security of his investment.

As I understand it, those developments create jobs.
If they are placed on hold or frighten off foreign money, then the locals lose jobs. They suffer.

Purely out of interest, because your comment intrigues me.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Cem Kinay was the developer of the Dellis Cay resort. He came to public attention when it was revealed during corruption hearings that he had passed half a million dollars to the disgraced ex-premier, Michael Misick, from who he had received various tax concessions as well as an offer of another island at favourable rates. Kinay admits the payment but denies any corrupt motive.

During the summer his company (O Property Collection, now apparently defunct) advertised for bloggers to write political articles for him. The intent appeared to be to set up an astroturf operation. "Chris Burke" is the main operative. I'm assuming it's his real name but he was booted off blogcritics for using fake ids to comment. the articles appeared designed to attack another blog, the tci journal, which had been critical of Kinay, and also to deny reports that Dellis Cay development was in trouble.

Dellis Cay went into receivership last week. Kinay has not been seen in the islands for months. His business partner left hurriedly before the receiver arrived. Tens of millions of dollars appear to be missing. Burke is helping to peddle the myth that the development collapsed because of the bribery allegations, which is nonsense.

Finally, "Chris" has now been joined on here and elsewhere by Mike Misick's brother (also Kinay's (ex?) lawyer).

I'm sure "Chris" will let me know if I've missed anything.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
p.s To answer the rest of your question. None of the money was Kinay's. He borrowed $77m from the investment arm of the Trinidadian Government and received and estimated $30m from purchasers in stage payments. Only a fraction of that money has been spent on the site.
Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
For the record, I know what group works for Kinay. It is Turks Journal run by Turks Ltd. I have never once written for Turks Journal. They have streamed a few of my articles which they can legally do without my consent because they cited the source, but that is it. If you want to find out who is writing for Kinay, if anyone at all, look at Turks Journal; that's his media company.

However, I will fully agree with Iliketocomment, the foreign investment community is scared off. It doesn't take much to see how the resorts are collapsing under pressure of the political climate. They are obviously being targeted. We need to bring confidence back to the investors. The real money maker in TCI comes from tourism dollars not just from resorts but from money being spent in TCI (restaurants, scuba, shops). Why anyone would want to see that collapse is beyond me. Belongers jobs is only a tiny fraction of the benefit of resorts and tourism development.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Who set up this account for you?
Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
Also, I have no ties to Kinay's ex-lawyer or Misick's ex-lawyer. I happen to agree with the overwhelming opinions of the sophisticated people who write me and submit opinions from TCI. What each persons backgrounds and jobs are, I do not care. What I do know, is that everyone's voice should be heard, not just Shaun Malcolm and friends at TCI Journal who are trying to force their agenda on everyone.
Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
Shaun if you want an Allvoices account, simply sign up. There is a tidy little link at the top of the page. Takes about 5 minutes.
Posted By ilike2comment ilike2comment | about 1 month ago
Okay Jimmy I try to hear what you are saying.
I am not concerned about who writes for whom on the Internet.
A person can write for whoever they please.
I purely wondered about the statement "the main disincentive to foreign investors is the fear that someone like this author's boss will steal their money".

As I understand it, there are no current laws which regulates contributions to political parties in TCI.
Why was the TCI Journal critical of Kinay then?

And if the majority of money for the investment comes from T&T then it is surely being invested INTO TCI and not stolen from the people, creating jobs?
And the $30 million from purchasers are surely mostly foreign purchasers - again meaning that the money is coming INTO TCI and not leaving it.

Now I am interested to know who are the receivers of Dellis Kay for one?
And is there proof that "Tens of millions of dollars appear to be missing"?

When you say only a fraction of the money has been spent on the development - How much is a "fraction" and is there proof of that also?
I thought the development is almost finished.
If it is almost finished, then surely a lot of money had to be spent to get it to that point.

Lastly. I read that Kinay is one of the founders of the Club Med developments.
Why would he risk his good name globally as a developer of such world renowned resorts?
It does not make much sense to me.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Yes I know, but it also shows the location of the ISP used to set it up, which is not yours.

So who was it?

"Also, I have no ties to Kinay's ex-lawyer"

This is a lie. You posted his piece on your site yesterday.

As for Turks Journal, here's another interesting coincidence. Both sites were set up within three weeks of each other and have identical hosting arrangements.

So once again, where's Cem and where's the money?
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
"It does not make much sense to me."

Sorry, I thought you might be genuine.

My mistake.
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy... why are you singing the same tune over and over and over? It is so boring. everyone works for everyone. Wow -- there's a special medication for paranoia.
Posted By ilike2comment ilike2comment | about 1 month ago
Mmm. I see what you are saying Jimmy.
Okay. Let me ease your mind.
Go to my profile and visit my blog where I publish my articles.
You will note that my interest mainly lies with Afghanistan, the media and international politics.
Or you are even welcome to ask Michael the Webmaster how many accounts I have and under which name.
You have my permission.
I can assure you that the author is completely innocent.

But I am still interested in your answer though.
I am intrigued now and the story is becoming interesting.

Did you not think that is a fair question?
Why would somebody willingly risk his good name as a founder of a group such as Club Med?
It is simply not logical to me and I am a logical person.
I am purely trying to figure this one out.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Perhaps I'm being unfair, but I was alerted by your claim that Kinay (b. 1958) founded the Club Med organisation, which was established in 1950. So far as I can tell, and I have searched, Burke is the only person ever to make such a batshit crazy assertion and I am suspicious of anyone who repeats it.

As for the money, it has not, for the most part, come into the country, it has largely left. The amount lent by the Trinidadians is public record. The extent of the stage payments is an educated guess (land sales are public record here). I have seen the site and know how little work has actually been done. I believe that this is about to get very ugly. You are right that we need to attract outside investment, but people like this do not help.
Reply By ilike2comment ilike2comment | about 1 month ago
Ahh. I see. I assure you that I am on my own mission here.
I became interested and did my own searches.

I did read about Club Med and Kinay on TCIWatch as I obviously followed the author's links to get more background. I have to say that the amount of articles and information are very extensive and clearly took a considerable amount of research and work.

I also found an article on:
http://www.designbuild-network.com/features/feature51812

Which states --
"Dr Cem Kinay, the Turkish-born, Miami-based chairman and CEO of the O Property Group, is turning it from a no-man's-land to an exclusive retreat. In 2004, after 14 years working with partner Oguz Serim running the Magic Life Clubs, an empire of 22 hotels around the Mediterranean, Kinay sold the company to German conglomerate TUI (Touristik Union International) and began searching for a site where he could realise a long-time dream: a design-driven island community where residents and visitors could live in both luxury and natural harmony."

So, whether Club Med or whether a 22 Hotel empire around the Med...
It makes no difference to me.
My question remains...
Why would he risk stealing people's money and damage his good name?
A guy like that simply has no reason to.
In that kind of industry with such enormous projects behind you, no developer will risk it.
That is all I am wondering about here.
It simply is not logical.

I think that I will follow this with interest.
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
Magic Life was the founder of the all-inclusive resort experience in the Caribbean - now known as the "Club Med experience", it was adopted by Club Med, the all-inclusive holiday experience monacher. He was a 1/2 partner until he founded Mandarin Oriental, another world renouned resort chain more exclusive then the Peninsula Hotels.

All of this is on the net. Found it in 5 minutes. haha Jimmy. Just takes a second to verify but a long time to disprove with distraction!!! I don't even know who these people are.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
Good for you.

Incidentally he was 5 when Mandarin Oriental was founded, so that is impressive. 
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
Wow -- you are looking for outs. Ahem! O Property business backs Mandarin Oriental management.
Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
iliike,

That blog is pure astroturf. Believe nothing that is not independently verified. PR puff pieces are not evidence either. It's a very simple equation. $100m has gone in. It's not in the ground. Where is it?

ck,

You're a moron.
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
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Reply By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
See above.

Why are you such a fan?
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
I dunno. It's fun.
Posted By smaart smaart | about 1 month ago
????!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By plmok plmok | about 1 month ago
I see hotel offers
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
Seriously. This appears to be a real thing. This is a real international crisis and not a publicity stunt. While we are all wrapped up in Kinay, the Britts are forcing their will on democratically elected governments. The Britts have overthrown the government of Turks and Caicos. This is really serious people. This is a real crisis.
Posted By SBreighton SBreighton | about 1 month ago
This all seems too complicated for my tastes
Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
Unravel my friends. Unravel the tangled web and then find the answer. The more complicated, the more corrupt. Forget all of the distractions and smoke and mirrors being used to force you off point. The truth will come out if everyone stays focused. Let democracy speak.
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