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UK Tell the Truth -- What really happened to Dellis Cay in Turks and Caicos?

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Cockburn Harbour : Turks and Caicos Islands | about 1 month ago  
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    Chris Burke
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I do not take up company with TCI Journal's "writings" unless it can offer me any clues to complete the puzzle into why the UK is trying to sabatoge Turks and Caicos and target developers.

I do not have any personal knowledge of Cem Kinay's individual finances nor do I purport to know. TCI Journal can allege anything they want.

I started my investigation with Dellis Cay because it was the center of the Wikileaks publication and then subsequently the Google case. It got a lot of press. But I will move on shortly to other developers, next with Lord Ashcroft to see what the real facts are there. Slowly, I am unraveling the pieces.

As for the personal home of Cem Kinay, assuming he paid cash to buy it, it does not conclude that it is not also leveraged. Again, that is none of my business. Compared to the prices of the villas to be sold on Dellis Cay, $7 million for his private home doesn't seem so extravagant. I do not know the real estate market in that area or his personal financial obligations. So I have no educated comment on that.

As far as Dellis Cay is concerned, I have been continuing my investigation. Dellis Cay is not Crown land, Marvin. Dellis Cay was a private purchase from an individual in Europe. I do not have all of the facts of this transaction.

The pieces are coming together as follows:

Some of the confusion is the popular belief that Cem Kinay's development was on Crown land. The actual island in question by the enquiry is a remote island called Joe Grant Cay, about a 2 hour boat ride from Provenciales. The island is called "iron" terrain because it is made up of black rocky peaks. The island has virtually no beach and has absolutely no infrastructure. It is uninhabitable.

My real estate sources tell me that the island has been of interest to maybe a handful of developers before, all of whom ultimately backed out due to the complicated structure of the island and that the Crown was not willing to sell the entire island, only 20% of it.

Cem Kinay was reportedly wooed very hard by the tourism department to take the land and develop it, reportedly because Cem Kinay's brand would draw a wealthy tourist population. I am told, but have not confirmed, that Kinay was induced with a Belonger partnership from an official within the tourism department (cannot reveal his name without checking the facts). Kinay reportedly did not ultimately purchase the island, he purchased the 20% and took a lease for the rest which is an additional 500 + acres.

Thereafter, none other than governor, His Excellency Gordon Wetherell, signed a Development Agreement with Cem Kinay allowing him to develop on Joe Grant Cay. Part of the reported deal was that Kinay was to give the Crown a hefty percentage (I believe 15% or 20%) of profit from the sales. This was a victory for the Crown and the government in relation to Joe Grant Cay, just prior to the enquiry.

I believe that Kinay had already paid and completed the lengthy environmental impact process and engineers before the enquiry. Michael Misick was pronounced a hero when he made this deal for Joe Grant Cay. Misick made a press release (and perhaps Malcolm can use his Dom Perignon fantasy here) and a celebration was had.

Kinay reportedly saw this island as a challenge, and the inducements were there by the government. It could be that he decided to make the deal because he felt supported by the government and confident in their commitments. I am speculating on the latter, but it is my tentative opinion that he would not have purchased the island without all of the inducements offered to HIM by the then government.

I have also checked that the Commission of Enquiry valued the island based on an already developed island's real estate specs, the island of Ambergris Cay. Ambergris Cay has a run way, sewer, a marina, water facilities, sea cable and electricity -- altogether the infrastructure improvements worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Ambergris Cay island is wholly habitable. Joe Grant Cay has absolutely no infrastructure, no dock and little beach to speak of. The enquiry drastically and artificially over valued Joe Grant Cay island for purposes of the enquiry report.

Why would the commission of enquiry over value Joe Grant Cay? I am not exactly sure but I can hasten a guess. I suppose if the enquiry valued the island at a much higher price than was true, then it stands to reason that Kinay made off like a bandit and got a special deal and then it makes the case that there was bribery by Kinay.

I am still looking into the particulars of this island transaction. If anybody has any additional information, I would be interested to hear. I am currently working with a real estate agent gathering records and information. But we could use other areas of expertise and island culture.

Somebody wrote us the other day and revealed that you can row a boat from West Caicos to Joe Grant Cay and that the Ritz Carlton development is a quick row boat ride. What is the significance of this fact? I would like to know.

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British invasion of Turks and Caicos Islands by UK August 14, 2009

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United Nations Turks and Caicos Islands was the United Kingdom’s idea of a “non-colonial modern relationship”. Under the United Nations Charter, the United Kingdom continued as an administering Power and it was only that that had given international legitimacy to the action that was taken, whatever the justification.

http://www.webnewswire.com/node/470097 Advisory counsel met re: TCI budget http://www.caribdaily.com/article/206013/matters-arising-from-advisory-council-meeting/ Collapse of five-star resort http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/seat-2B/2009/09/23/lehman-brothers-impact-on-business-travel/ Chancellor's comments Allistair Darling looking to blacklist Turks and Caicos http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/6228038/Alistair-Darling-wants-regulation-blacklist.html
Nevis island inquiry hearing started of Vance Armory
http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/news-19007--35-35--.html Story news in Turks and Caicos: http://www.einnews.com/latin-america/newsfeed-turks-and-caicos-islands Seven Stars taken over by new management?
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147395-i212-k3114711-Was_Seven_Stars_taken_over_by_new_management-Turks_and_Caicos.html Hanchell accuses the governor of silencing the media http://suntci.com/storyp.php?id=418 Open Letter two political parties in TCI http://tciwatch.blogspot.com/2009/09/comments-from-google-informers-shut.html#
Cayman Islands fears of government threat and going into debt http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/256587/diff/6/7 Major world central banks announced on Thursday that they planned to scale back massive injections of U.S. dollars into their banking systems as financial markets stabilize after a devastating crisis http://www.allvoices.com/news/4229774-central-banks-dollar Privy Council in trouble Caricom has been placed into doubt after comments by Britain's top judge.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/news/story/2009/09/090922_privyccjphillips.shtml

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  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    Why is Cem calling himself Marvin now?
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    Do not comment on this site Malcolm err Jimmy unless you have something true and of value to report, or are those scarse qualities for a character like you.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    Are you still upset about getting busted on blogcritics?

    You really need a thicker hide if you're looking at a career in fake journalism.
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    It's the other way around. I encourage everyone to read my articles on Blogcritics.org. Incidentally, these are facts that anyone can discover. If you would like to get into real investigation instead of innuendo agenda reporting, you can do the same. These are merely facts my friend, called the truth.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    What fact? You printed propaganda for Kinay and then pretended to be about a dozen different people in the comments section. You haven't published a single fact so far.

    Incidentally I see you're still pretending to be "reporting" from "Cockburn Harbour". Why do that if you're in South africa?
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    I never said I am from Turks and Caicos and I do not live or work currently in South Africa. I am not sure where you are getting your information. You announce your news from where you are reporting. You don't know that?
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    Well so far you've claimed to be based in the UK, Washington and California. You claim to be located in "Cockburn Harbour" in country which you've clearly never even visited. In one comment you used a fake name and claimed to be from Norway. I'm just a little curious as to the point of all this. No doubt Kinay thought hiring bloggers was a good idea but at this stage you're really just embarrassing him.
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    You've got your own worries. TCI Journal and Malcolm are going down. Look at the mainstream press from Sun News in Turks and Caicos.http://www.suntci.com/index.php?p=story&id=487

    I am from ... none of your damn business. I report on different parts of the world and your business will be fighting international corruption charges. I call upon tax investigators to find out why Malcolm has been reporting a zero income and why he is putting developers out of business. You are a putrid human being "jimmy" (Shaun Malcolm). Your destructive days are over. I only tell the truth.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    What different parts of the world do you report on? I've never seen your byline anywhere.

    I see Hayden has his knickers bunched again.

    You think Shaun isn't paying income tax here? You may be right. You should report him to the TCI income tax collectors.

    You are funny you know.
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    http://www.suntci.com/index.php?p=story&id=480

    Your friend Oswald is next. You are all corrupt individuals who are very sick. Just read the SUn Newspaper today. The world citizens will not allow you to take control of Turks and Caicos. We know you're associated with Oswald.

    Yes, I will call upon the tax department to investigate you for taxes for the last 5 years while you've been conspiring against turks and caicos. I invite the UN, CARICOM and EU to do the same. Taxes will be the least of your worries. When the WORLD finds out about your conspiracy, you're away for a long, long time.
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    I'm flattered that you're trolling the internet for my by line. SOme advice: plan your defence.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    Do you know what the rate of income tax in TCI is? As an investigative reporter I assume you've researched it.

    Now what has Oswald done to upset you?
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    Who cares. Oswald will be discovered. He should dump you right now. You've got some spin and lies to work out on TCI Journal. I suggest you get to it. It will be a long, long day. Everyone can follow developments (pardon the pun) on TCIWatch.com.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    Are you going to report him to the TCI income tax inspectors as well? Perhaps I should warn them.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    I had no idea that allvoices was your site.

    You stated that Shaun had reported zero income. To whom was this report made? It's certainly a strange thing for someone to do in a tax haven wouldn't you say? But then you must have a theory, what with you being a pretend journalist.

    Keep up the good work. this has to be the funniest thing on the internet right now. I can't believe Kinay is actually paying for this. Then again given his track record he probably won't.
  • Posted By dumpmail41 dumpmail41 | about 1 month ago
    lool
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    Says Shaun Malcolm.
  • Posted By Jimmmy Jimmmy | about 1 month ago
    Just to save time Chris (if that is your real name) in your opinion is there anyone on the internet who isn't Shaun Malcolm?
  • Posted By TCIwatch TCIwatch | about 1 month ago
    You might be Shaun Malcolm or one of his many proven pseudonyms. You can check out the commentaries about Shaun Malcolm's alter egos on my website TCIwatch.con. Jimmy: you already admitted you are Malcolm on my Blogcritics site. You say "I" in a response about Malcolm. Just saying -- you admit it yourself. Nobody can keep up. You are reportedly a pathalogical liar (that's a more polite description that I have received on you). Maybe others can tell me what other names they call him. I invite everyone who knows Shaun malcolm to go ahead and give their description of Malcolm. Or, you can open the mainstream news papers in Turks and Caicos to see what editor in chief, Hayden Boyce, says about Malcolm.
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    You'd better tell me what all these pseudonyms are, in case I miss one and end up arguing with myself by accident. So far there's me, dumpmail41 and that Australian from blogcritics. Are there any others? Or is it a Zen thing, are you saying that we are all, in a sense, Shaun Malcolm? Because if you are then you may just have blown my mind.
  • Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
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    Boy are you asking the wrong person.
  • Posted By countknowledge countknowledge | about 1 month ago
    Don't worry Jimmy. I would never ask your advice on anything, you democracy hater. People like you should move out of democratic countries. I sentence you to be a woman in Afghanistan. Democracy is wasted on people such as you. You do not deserve freedoms.
  • Posted By Freedomlover Freedomlover | about 1 month ago
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