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Now I can see victory as Obama says Taliban can be involved in Afghanistan's future. It's about damn time!

By: jmsjoin send a private message
Kabul : Afghanistan | about 1 month ago  
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First by now everyone knows Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize and I think that is fantastic not because of his accomplishments but because of his efforts to unite the world. It is a bit ironic for the President of a country fighting two wars to win the peace prize. However if he can bring peace to the middle east and bring Afghanistan to a successful conclusion. This award will be a fitting tribute and a message to the entire world to cooperate with Obama. This is big! A peace prize for hope not accomplishments man are we desperate!

The Taliban have proven to be very politically astute. They are protecting the citizen's whenever possible and making it known to the Americans that they will no longer cooperate with Al-Qaida or provide them safe haven. Next step will be if they would guarantee to route out Al Qaeda then we can go home or more aptly concentrate on helping Pakistan who has been increasingly successful in routing out Al Qaeda and the Taliban. I can now see success where I only saw failure because Bush turned his back on Afghanistan for 8 years! Max Cleland recounts Vietnam compares Afghanistan

I am finally hearing the right advice and it looks like Obama is going to take it. The Republicans of course want a surge with 40,000 more troops sent to be killed. Obama may send a few thousand more but it looks like he is listening to the likes of VP Biden and max Cleland. It is about time we have a President capable of thought! It is about friggen time! On the video they recognize that the Taliban is an indigenous part of Afghan society and will not be defeated. About damn time!

The Taliban is not the enemy Al Qaeda is. They are the ones that attacked us and they have essentially been routed! Obama has this right! It is about time we have a President that knows how to listen to good advice and is capable of thought. Obama is right to ignore Republicans demanding that he listen to McChrystal and immediately send an additional 40,000 troops to their death. You could add a million troops and it would do nothing but draw more martyrs to the Taliban cause!

Obama will add some troops for now but is listening to the likes of Max Cleland and Joe Biden. At this critical time Biden has become increasingly vocal on what to do in Afghanistan. I agree with him that there should be no more troops and drones should be used to go after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. Leave the Taliban alone they are part of Afghanistan. Barack Obama: Taliban can be involved in Afghanistan future

Biden is disenchanted with Karzai's misleadership and corruptitude as we all are! Cleland is also right! More troops will only be more for the Taliban to kill. McChrystal would be right if the Taliban was our enemy but they are not so he and Republicans are wrong. The Taliban have said they will keep out Al Qaeda so we should concentrate on the border and help Pakistan against Al Qaeda. They are the enemy. They attacked us not the Taliban.

In Afghanistan we have another Vietnam only because Bush created it by diverting to Iraq to make a new middle east (dis)order! Cleland says get out now and he is right! Why does Obama insist on sending even one more troop to their grave? Is it because he knows if he pulls out he will be killed? Afghanistan is another Vietnam and we have duplicated every mistake including installing a puppet Government.

We must get out now! I know Obama has been President for less than a year but to me he has yet to do anything right or get anything done. Victory in Afghanistan will make everything right and I can now see that happening! The Taliban are indigenous to Afghanistan. No Government in Kabul and the people are indifferent that tells me it is Taliban deal time!

James Joiner

Gardner, Ma

http://www.anaveragepatriot.com/

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  • Posted By ladyjtalks ladyjtalks | about 1 month ago
    I have read the pro's and con's and all most of us can do is watch. I love the idea of using the drones over our good service men and women. Well said here and we can all hope for a brighter day there. Jacki m
  • Reply By sbk93036 sbk93036 | about 1 month ago
    Obama is just bad news!
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Thanks Jacki
    I wish we would just use the drones help Pakistan and watch. The Taliban belong in Afghanistan and they said they would keep out Al Qaeda then let us get out!
  • Posted By brigidprimrose brigidprimrose | about 1 month ago
    Amazing how when things are brought out into the open they seem to be a lot clearer. Let's hope that with Obama's guidance peace will become more possible in this troubled area. Brigid
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Hi Brigid
    Yes I have a lot of hope. What was total resignation to a dire future under Bush has been turned into hope that he can work things out and for the future. Now if only the world cooperates!
  • Posted By mr_kentucky mr_kentucky | about 1 month ago
    Why worry about the taliban instead of al-quida?
  • Posted By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    maybe you should take a look at this before you start celebrating

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33107901/vp/33244662#33244662
  • Posted By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    taliban deal time? you must not live in new york james
  • Posted By thagunna thagunna | about 1 month ago
    this topic is very interesting
  • Posted By mlv777 mlv777 | about 1 month ago
    this has been going on so long im a little tired hearing about it to be honest i hope things can be solved peacefully and quickly
  • Posted By ahol888 ahol888 | about 1 month ago
    Taliban will not be involved if they ban the Afghans from making poppy fields as they did before.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Hi everyone
    Very interesting! I think I am going to be working on it throuout the day but I keep rehashing that McChrystal is supposed to be the most qualified of Generals making counterinsurgency his career including heading Cheney's assassin sqad and his advice should be adhered to.

    With that said he should be ignored and reeducated as to what the mission is. Up to now no one has done it but Obama might if he listens to Biden and Cleland.

    Our soldiers did their job send them home. Unless their job is to create as many enemies as possible which is all they are doing in Afghanistan get them out.

    Getting rid of Al Qaeda and eliminating their Afghan safe haven was supposed to be the goal not building a puppet Government like in Vietnam.

    Afghanistan belongs to the Taliban and they said they would keep Al Qaeda out, sounds like all the win we are going to get let's go home with our heads up.

    The alternative if adding more troops and staying there in the forever war Bush set up. Matbe with our failing economy the idea is to keep us going on a permanent war economy? What do you think?
  • Reply By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    james did you watch the video? the taliban leader said once they win in afghanistan they will take their jihad to all corners of the globe and will attack the usa at every opportunity they get.

    this isn't some republican conspiracy this is straight out of the horses mouth

    biden is an idiot, has always been an idiot and will always be an idiot
  • Posted By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    and while your are "working on this though out the day" read this nice little article here on all voices and be sure and read the comments

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4339078-usa-exploits-pakistan-by-dr-abdul-ruff-colachal
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Thanks Lecia
    I did not read it I am just getting started here but I will. The way we have been operating in Afghanistan has turned the Taliban into someone that wants to hurt us here and abroad. We will defend wherevere whenever but do not need to instigate which Is what Bush did and we are doing by staying in Afghanistan.
  • Reply By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    not to mention the fact you just agreed on that other thread that the taliban aren't killing anyone in pakistan or afhanstan that is the usa, jews, indians and russians that are doing the killing and making it look like it is the taliban doing it
  • Reply By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    yeah james i see you support the taliban and think they were choir boys before we invaded afghanistan, they had nothing to do with 9/11 and they will go back to being choir boys when we pull our troops and won't kill any more people...when the taliban leader said as soon as the us pulls out and lets him have afghanistan that he will turn his sights to the rest of the world and the usa in particular he was just kidding i guess
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    Make believe you can think before opening mouth!
  • Reply By lecia lecia | about 1 month ago
    you are the one not thinking
    you need to start reading news other than msnbc and cnn to find out exactly what is going on there
  • Posted By TomCat TomCat | about 1 month ago
    James, you are only part right here. While the Taliban are native to Afghanistan, they picked up Wahhabism in Pakistan, because the ISI funneled US aid they distributed on our behalf through Wahhabi madrases. This the mixed with their native Pashtun Islamic beliefs. So much of their philosophy is foreign.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | about 1 month ago
    I understand that is the big problem and why Pakistan does not want us to disengage.
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