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SHOCKING: Dutch Lack Inmates,Closing 8 Prisons!

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Amsterdam : Netherlands | 2 months ago  
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Leniency in drug laws, legalization of prostitution, euthanasia, and the push to electronically monitor inmates in their own home has created an unusual dilemma. There aren't enough convicts in the Netherlands to keep prisons open for business!

Announced Tuesday of last week, the Dutch Government made it official what has been whispered about long enough. At least eigth prisons will close within one year.

Officials attribute the shortage of prisoners to a declining crime rate.

Imagine this. The general population of the Netherlands is 16.6 million. Their prison population is 12,000. Compared to California, the world's most notoriously overcrowded prison system, they should have only 24,000 inmates considering California has 36.7 million people. Not so! California actually has nearly four times that amount-171,000 inmates in of itself!

So what is California doing wrong? Are we teaching "soft criminals" the ways of the "hardened and violent criminals" within the confinements of prisons? And, who's drug policies are keeping the streets safer?

I am not supporting legalizing marijuana by any stretch of the imagination. However, we have a huge crisis with national security on our hands. It's not just with Iran.

The Dutch are trying to figure out how to save 1,200 government jobs, the far left are striving for, by hauling in at least 500 Belgium inmates from their overcrowded prisons. The far right cry foul, for they think that the Dutch are being to weak on crime.

If the Netherlands accept Belgium's inmate transplants, the Netherlands would get 30 million euros in the deal, and it will allow the closing of the prisons in Rotterdam and Veenhuizen to be postponed until 2012.

It's an interesting argument. Are Dutch people becoming more civil or is their society becoming more tolerant of incivility?

It wasn't always like this.In the 1990's, the Netherlands had their own prison shortage nightmares. Policies to lower the standards of what defines a crime came into play. Deputy justice minister Nebahat Albayrak assures the Dutch public it is just a sharp decline in crime, and the government becoming stricter on crime.

I don't claim to be a prophet, but I see the future of the U.S going in this same direction that the Netherlands has gone. We have a liberal president, who openly supports abortion and marijuana use. He doesn't have an ounce of comprehension about national security, and is a pansy about putting pressure on Iran and others who threaten our nation. However, he would like nothing more than to sweep all the problems under the rug and appear as if all is good. What better way to do it, and combine all the aforementioned problems he already possess, and make America liberal on crime?

This may be a bold statement few of you want to accept. Hold the hate mail if you will! I am seeing an all too grim percentage of crime spikes on the streets that I work. I see the desperation of the people that ordinarily wouldn't think of commiting a crime ever in their lives. Suddenly, they find themselves in front of a judge for the very first time with a rap sheet because they can't feed their family, pay their bills, or get a job.

Think of the nightmare we are heading into as a nation if our president gets any more lax with policies affecting our security!

My last note: perhaps the Netherlands are actually doing well and actually do have a significantly lowered crime rate. If this is actually so, and not because of lax crime policies, laws, and their national security, let me be the first to give them a huge pat on the back! If it is a zealous sweep under the rug act, hopefully our president won't follow suit!

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  • Posted By Changez Changez | 2 months ago
    I've been there, and from what I could see, people were very normal about things like MJ. it was normal for a couple to go into a coffee shop after work, sit down and smoke a J. The Netherlands also has one of the most progressive prison reform systems in the world, which helps with prisoner rehabilitation and not just punishment.

    Obama is far tougher on NS than Bush was, just doesn't act so brash about it. He's more Iron fist, velvet glove. Churchill would've been proud.
  • Posted By stillthinking stillthinking | 2 months ago
    God, what a tragedy. I feel for the prison corporations and prison guard unions who face such a difficult time over there. Hopefully they can learn from the lobbying efforts of California's prison guards and quadruple the inmate population with "get tough on crime" laws.

    Prison corporations and prison guard unions in our country have implemented some brilliant strategies. Recidivism (repeat offenses) keep going up. If someone goes to jail once, the odds are they'll be back in a few years for something worse. I credit the intensive fighting, rioting, and gang training provided by our prisons. "College for Criminals" The high rate of "repeat customers", a goal of any business, makes for big profits and high salaries.

    Another great element in America's prison profit strategy is sentences for possession of popular drugs like marijuana and cocaine. This results in an enormous black market that is a great way for criminals to make some dough when they're not brushing up on their skills in the joint. As an added bonus, it gives nonviolent people who commit the victimless crime of drug possession a chance to attend prison. And once they've been in, they'll be back!
  • Posted By spike-breaker08 spike-breaker08 | 2 months ago
    Does The Netherlands doing something to discipline it's people?
  • Reply By Changez Changez | 2 months ago
    They're a very disciplined and open minded people. While I was there it was a national holiday of some sort and the streets of the red light area were full of groups of children who had been brought by parents and schools to sing and hold lamps in front of the houses and doors of the prostitutes in the RL area. They stop at everyone's home, outside their door, whether prostitute or policeman and cover the whole city; prostitutes are simple seen as professionals over there, no less or more than other people. That is open mindedness, even if it does seem strange to others. They are a very well organised and disciplined lot from what I could see.
  • Posted By AsherKade AsherKade | 2 months ago
    I've enjoyed all your comments. I haven't seen the proof in the pudding yet on Obama Changez. Stillthinking:love your sarcasm...seriously....you remind me so much of myself. Awesome! Spike: I can't judge the Dutch. I don't know enough about them.I just found the news about their prison shutdown fasinating considering the problems we are facing here with prison failures.
  • Posted By mllovric mllovric | 2 months ago
    Let them join the military or the reserves to fight in either Afghanistan
    or Iraq. Former prison guards can be drafted into the army to help fight
    the rebels because they have enough experience with those types anyway. I
    advocate the closure of prisons and let the prison guards become a part of
    the armed forces. 7/10/2009.
  • Posted By AKADE777 AKADE777 | 2 months ago
    that's a great idea mllovric. I have often thought that if we put the worst offenders out there to fight the wars, we could do away with some of the punishing costs of prison systems, supervising offenders, executing them, and court time/costs. If those offenders want to kill someone so bad, why not let them fight in the war? But my spouse reminds me of the fact that they don't have the discipline to follow orders, to fight ethically,to shoot only certain targets, and do their job without committing war crimes. ASHER KADE VIA MOBILE
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