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Iraq: What Have We Accomplished? Afghanistan: What Are We Trying To Accomplish?

Olympia : WA : USA | 2 months ago  
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I've heard it all before. "If we don't fight them over there, we'll have to fight them over here." That's why were chasing Al-Qaeda and the Taliban throughout the terrible terrain of Afghanistan. It seems to be very difficult to hunt down and destroy an enemy that is not a nation-state; especially with the same old military tactics. I'm referring to the need for more and more combat troops on the ground. I mean, it's been nine years...so far.

We're engaged in "nation building," I've also heard. I think that means to set up a foreign government that is friendly to us. That's beyond our capacity to do, in my opinion. I believe the United States must rethink its approach to fighting this new kind of enemy and rethink if its our job to build other country's government to our liking.

The bottom line is, how many more American and coalition forces must die in Afghanistan when they themselves have shown they are not our partner in what we're trying to do over there? I have the feeling that when General McChrystal arrived in that nearly desolate country, he found out that our "partners" are really no good. But since we are so entrenched there, he wants more troops so we can assume more of the burden that the Afghans won't. Let's face it, no American general is ever going to say its a lost cause so let's get out. We'll just keep throwing more and more of our military into the fray and eventually we'll have enough to "win." So Chrystal has asked for (some say, demanded) another 40,000 troops, for starters. That's in addition to the 68,000 President Obama has committed already.

My point is that we are fighting a very long and protracted war that shows no "light at the end of the tunnel," with conventional tactics (ground troops) against an unconventional enemy. The military always wants more troops in every war. Vietnam is a prime example. It started with a handful of military "advisers" and ended up with over 500,000 troops fighting in the jungles of Southeast Asia. And in World War II, our military generals told Congress in order to win the war in Europe it would need 200 divisions. So we must ask ourselves, is it really worth it?

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Posted By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
Deaths in Operation Enduring Freedon (Afghanistan)

Year US UK Other Total
2001 12 0 0 12
2002 49 3 17 69
2003 48 0 9 57
2004 52 1 6 59
2005 99 1 31 131
2006 98 39 54 191
2007 117 42 73 232
2008 155 51 88 294
2009 220 81 75 376
Total 850 218 353 1421

Deaths in Operation Iraqui freedom

Year US UK Other Total
2003 486 53 41 580
2004 849 22 35 906
2005 846 23 28 897
2006 822 29 21 872
2007 904 47 10 961
2008 314 4 4 322
2009 125 1 0 126
Total 4346 179 139 4664
Reply By spike-breaker08 spike-breaker08 | about 1 month ago
Is this true caveatlector? My God! Those numbers are horrible..
Posted By BubbleBoy BubbleBoy | 2 months ago
yes, there are alot of deaths.
Posted By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
caveatlector, I had someone post a comment on my Iran article to ask why don't we just send in snipers to assasinate all the bad guys. If only it could be that easy.

How could even a special forces team accomplish such a mission in the most inhospitable terrain on Earth as in Afghanistan?

It's very sad to see all those statistics.
Posted By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
I wish I could find the article I read last week where a retired US Army general said we could be far more affective with the use of drones, missles, and special forces. But you're right, that country is so hostile, terrain-wise, to any foreign military.
Posted By ladym33 ladym33 | 2 months ago
It does seem as if we have had little affect, after all of these years.
Posted By DonnaCortrightRiexinger DonnaCortrightRiexinger | 2 months ago
i wish they would pull out i have two sons in the military and one is being deployed oct 1st to the uae
Posted By wazflirtpimp wazflirtpimp | 2 months ago
i just wish that we could all have peace in this world and nothing would happen and poor innocent people would stop getting hurt
Posted By ahol888 ahol888 | 2 months ago
In Iraq, Saddam Hussein had banned the people from growing poppy fields. What the US has accomplished in Iraq is to ensure that thousands of Iraqis can go back to growing these fields without risk of death. In Afghanistan, the Taliban had forbidden the Afghanis from growing poppy fields. The US military is keeping the Taliban in the mountains so that the people can grow those poppy fields. These wars are about drugs.
Posted By DavidHamer DavidHamer | 2 months ago
A lot Of Death
Posted By SratimoNet SratimoNet | 2 months ago
agree
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