The leading source for credible citizen reporting

Report Your News
Take the tour...

What do liberal and conservative mean?

Glendale : CA : USA | 2 months ago  
Views: 2,236
Left vs. right

Maybe I'm giddy from getting nearly 100 comments on my Sarah Palin post, or maybe I'm excited to be within spitting distance of 200,000 page views, but I have an idea.

Let's define our terms.

We have some pretty strong right-wing voices here on AllVoices and we have some equally strong left-wing voices. I think it might be informative if we defined what liberal and conservative mean to us.

Sorry, Ross1776, you're not allowed to play, since you think everyone is a liberal. Seriously, say what you want.

I would like to see my liberal friends post what they think are positive things about being a liberal and the negative things they see in conservatism. Then my conservative friends can post the good things about being a conservative and the bad things about liberalism.

Some of the following areas might be worth addressing:

-- The role of government in our lives.

-- Our responsibility, if any, toward other people.

-- America's role in the world.

Seems to me almost everything fits under those three umbrellas, and no, I'm not going to start by posting my own opinions. I figure this will either be a major flop (25 views, no comments) or a massive success.

Go for it.

  • Print
  • Share:
  • Share
  • Digg
  • Reddit
  • Facebook
  • Stumbleupon

Related Allvoices Contributions

News Stories
 
  • News Source: People.com | 2 months ago
    Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has already finished her memoir, titled Going Rogue: An American Life , and has a newly moved-up launch date for its publication – Nov. 17 for a whopping 1.5 million copies, the Christian Science Monitor reports. The...
  • News Source: Androscoggin News | 2 months ago
    An American Life' Tuesday, September 29, 2009 Sarah Palin's much-anticipated memoir now has a title and a new release date. CNN) -- Sarah Palin's much-anticipated memoir now has a title and a new release date, two advisers to the former Alaska...
  • News Source: Uinta County News | 2 months ago
    Who said foreign-policy issues and problems don't have entertainment value? Who said rich and prominent Americans, without exception, are insensitive to the rising importance of Asia? In that spirit, whoever said that Beyonce Knowles, the sexy rock...
  • News Source: Uinta County News | 2 months ago
    listening to her speak is irratating enough. Posted 09:34 AM on 09/26/2009 You know, us women worked and fought for the right to work outside the home and have careers...It was not a cause of the ultra conservative but more of the liberals.
Images
 >
 
  • Posted By amalgam80 amalgam80 | 2 months ago
    I guess I'll answer by saying:

    Roll of government: What ever I want it to be.

    Opinion of other people: Golden Rule

    America's Place in the world: Leading by example.

    What I like about liberals: good regulations, multi-culturalism


    What I like about conservatism: individualism, fiscal conservitism, state rights
  • Posted By PussyLoveR PussyLoveR | 2 months ago
    lols XD

    i dun understand all of these :D

    it sound FUNNY to me :D
  • Posted By allmyzoovoice allmyzoovoice | 2 months ago
    interesting comic... something to think about
  • Posted By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    Accepting all races and religions in America, that's a liberal to me.
    I'm 98% liberal, but liberals support abortion and I do not support abortion. Liberals do not want the President to abuse the Constitution.
    We should always be, a nation of laws. Liberals have little respect for the NRA. Liberals believe the government can and should help the people
    with Social Security, Medicare, and a single - payer health plan. Liberals want regulations and controls on our corporations. [:-)
    JerrySatire
    www.Lampoon.net
  • Reply By Ross1776 Ross1776 | 2 months ago
    Jerry:

    Accepting all races and religions is a Conservative view, not liberal at all. Accepting atheism doctrine as a "religion" or that there is a protection of atheism inherent in the Constitution, now that is liberal. Since "freedom of" religion does not mean "freedom from." And in the Supreme Court using that as their basis for many of those determinations in recent history, is an example of a rogue court and liberalism.
  • Posted By Write4Life Write4Life | 2 months ago
    I believe that the strongest form of government should exist at the State level.

    I believe the federal government has a duty to help those who cannot help themselves but to not interfer in the right of people to work hard and acheive more. I do not believe in a level playing field because I think many people work hard to get ahead and by doing so often sacrifice a lot to acheive those goals.

    I think liberals don't give conservative a chance.
    I think conservatives try -but are in defense mode now because liberals want to pin everything on Bush when the economic collapse did not fall in the hands of one man -but many men through many decades.

    I think the erosion of State's rights is a shame. I think too many people think the government owes them something - and I do not think they do. I think if you don't work hard - and it's because you're lazy - you should live in a shack. I think if you don't work hard because you can't - due to a physical inability and perhaps mental in some causes then the government programs SHOULD help you.

    I think people should make over 500,000 a year if they run a corporation that excels and makes a constant profit and they work 100 hours a week...and I think the ones who run a corporation into the ground should be fired, the board, the CEO, the COO, the CFO and everyone else that had a hand in its collapse and I think the company should be allowed to collapse. GM should be gone- the government should not run any part of the private sector.

    I think liberals are blind to Obama and have an inability to see what he is doing because they are so angry over the last 8 years....and quite frankly I am too.

    I think conservatives want to see Obama stop apologizing and start acting as the President of whole country and not just those who bow down to everything he says.

    I think we live in a dangerous time right now when we let our blinders effect our decisions more than the picture in front of us.

    AND, I think that there will come a day shortly when the battle will be over and we will look back and either remeber these days as bad days or we will remember them as a time when we learned to work together.

    I repsect the opinion of others and even when I seem to be hateful, it's not at that person, it's because too often what we write is read differently by the person who is reading it than it was intended by the one that wrote it.

    I believe in capitalism and work ethic. I don't want my tax dollars to pay for an alcoholics 15 tries ar rehab or for the illegals in the country to have babies that automatically become citizens.

    I think America needs to improve it's borders, it's defense, its protection and itself. I believe in God and values and morals and ethics.

    I don't want a government to ever be bigger than my God.
  • Posted By unnameddd unnameddd | 2 months ago
    ufffffff
  • Posted By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    If the strongest form of government existed at the State level in America, we would still have slavery and the Confederate fly, flying sky high. How can ANY government in the world be bigger than God? Give us a break. We get it, you don't want big government. Do conservatives now have a monopoly on God?
    JerrySatire
    www.Lampoon.net
  • Reply By Write4Life Write4Life | 2 months ago
    See Jerry- you're not even able to have a conversation...Mike's article wasn't to argue. YOU just don't get it - and no, conservatives don't have a monopoly on God and it was my opinion you idiot - which is what was asked for.

    You know - you have a right to disagree - but the biggest problem is you have to be such an ass when you do.
  • Reply By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    This ass understands if the strongest government existed at the State level we would still have slavery and a confederate flag, flying sky high. You are right. I should not have talked about your post. My fault I fear. Sorry.However Folks that tout State Rights scare the hell out of me.
    JerrySatire
    www.Lampoon.net
  • Reply By Write4Life Write4Life | 2 months ago
    I scare my kids too.... so, you're not alone there! I don't think I'd scare you if you met me though...and I don't think we'd have the confederate flag flying anywhere - The people that scare me are the ones that think the federal government should control everything.
  • Posted By ddubbs12147 ddubbs12147 | 2 months ago
    i agree w/ pussylover, i dont get this at all
  • Posted By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
    Here's what I'd like to see happen in this country and then someone can tell me what I am. But not where to go.
    1. Develop a new definition of "national security," since we live in a very changed world.
    2. Achieve an economy that works for all people, not just for a privileged few.
    3. Provide health care for every American. Say, like Medicare being expanded to cover all citizens.
    4. Restore the basic values that once made this country the envy of the world.
    That's all.
  • Posted By Jcraig Jcraig | 2 months ago
    Its not for us to understand sadly, so lets all jsut sit back with a smoke and enjoy the going on in the world.
  • Reply By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    caveatlector - You sound like a bleeding heart liberal, just like me. [:-)
    JerrySatire
    www.Lampoon.net
  • Posted By Alaa550 Alaa550 | 2 months ago
    bla bla
  • Reply By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
    You sound like an honest and for true conservative, Alaa550.
  • Reply By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
    I thought so. I just needed someone to confirm it. Thanks, JerrySatire.
  • Posted By mattstarkeY mattstarkeY | 2 months ago
    hi
  • Posted By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    Mike - I'm sorry I broke your rule and commented on the write4Life post.
    I can't think of a good excuse. Sorry. [:-[
    JerrySatire
    www.Lampoon.net
  • Posted By naserbader naserbader | 2 months ago
    hi
  • Posted By ofir_ozi ofir_ozi | 2 months ago
    a
  • Posted By Ross1776 Ross1776 | 2 months ago
    I, of course, don't use those terms at all at this point, since they are moot at where we are in history. But formerly, the "liberals" in this country are not at all what you have portrayed in any manner whatsoever in using that term. Liberal and conservative has to do with the interpretation of the Constitution, and nothing more.

    Not how you feel about the role of government, or what that government should be, since it is already written in stone in this country in our founding documents and also the Constitution itself and the Articles of Confederation that preceded it. The founders were establishing a "sovereign" and "separate" nation free from global influence in both our political matters and economy internally.

    A "liberal" interprets the Constitution by simply inserting words in it that aren't there, or redefining the ones that are not using the "common useage" language definitions, but either splitting hairs, or totally redefining them. The Supreme Court has been a "liberal" court since Marbury vs. Madison, actually. Since there is no inherent right of the Court at all to amend the Constitution absent the amendment process without the 'consent of the governed' per the 9th Amendment provisions. So liberals believe that the offices they hold are not restrained to the actual duties and powers that are enumerated in the Constitution. And broadly redefine them at will - or now even are using international case law as "precedents" for this country in those court determinations. Which is actually treason, since it is the Constitution itself that gives that court its powers.

    And each and every judge and public official, from the Supreme Court justices to the small claims judge is bound by oath to uphold that Constitution. Not some other judge's rendering of it. That is where Marbury vs. Madison and stare decisis was the first "liberal" power grab of one branch in order to centralize the power in that one branch, and "progressively" with each and every illegal decision that has been made (including the "creation" of another party to it, "corporate person-hood" has lead us to where we are today.

    That, and selling our bank to the British under the Federal Reserve Act and House of Rothchild - who fund both sides of every war for their own profit, and instigate them if need be since they are the true rulers when Wilson handed over all power to them under that Administration. Now we only have puppets, and that is why nothing fundamentally changes with each successive Administration whether Democratic or Republican

    As I said, we have had what you would define as a "liberal" Congress (Democratic) since 2006 - but we are STILL in the Iraq war and now appears Iran is being primed to be the next step in this British quest for global economic centralized banking and dominance.

    A Conservative is one who recognizes that the founders settled their differences with respect to the federalists and anti-federalists at the ratification of the Constitution - and those political parties were not "corporate" parties at all, but informal, and those names only came into being after the fact by historians that "labeled" the fundamental differences between the founders views. That was rectified at the ratification, so there were NEVER intended to be any further political parties at all in this country. Nor platforms that now supercede the express provisions of the Constitution itself.

    And in order to have a representative government, within that framework then the only campaign finances that each and every candidate can accept are those within their own legislative district. Right now, we have pretenders in office, not a representative government at all. They didn't have to write that provision in stone within the Constitution since that was a given - in order to have a representative government, than no "foreign" influence was accorded.

    So, as I said, with respect to the protests and Viet Nam, since that was a definitely aggressive and interventionist war and not in "defense" of this country, those protestors were actually Conservatives, not liberals, at all.

    Nor were the women sufferagettes - since they went through the formal process to get that clear amendment according them voting rights, since many women had been widowed during the wars and were then holders of property, and it was property that was the basis of the tax structure, not income. Although technically, that amendment also needed to be placed before the people of the several states before THEY ratified it, per the 9th.

    So your views of liberalism and conservatism are more the British variety, not the U.S. at all.
  • Reply By Ross1776 Ross1776 | 2 months ago
    Since the education now in this country also in government has been now propagandized, and also through our courts and the British Bar Association carryover (and many of our Supreme Court justices have East Coast or English legal educations, such as Souter who got his undergrad at Oxford) - and most use the words "liberal" and "conservative" along what the British definitions would be.

    And, after all, Murdoch now also owns Fox, so his style of "conservatism" has nothing to do with American conservatism at all. But British. And is buying up the media now, British opportunist that he is, in order to continue the Brits agendas.

    And whose father was a British lord, just as Lord Rothchild, who now owns our bank, and is a zionist.
  • Posted By Ross1776 Ross1776 | 2 months ago
    In my view, and many others, the two new political parties have become more than clear.

    Global socialists (world government believers who hold with a "global" economy, U.N. and WHO directives over our Constitution itself) or American Conserve-atives (who base their belief in our government as that which was "intended" by the founders, as a "sovereign" nation, both economically and politically, as provided in our founding documents.

    The new "progressives" that believe in "globalism" actually are nothing more than what our founders would label "regressives," wanting this country again under foreign global dominance and control - by the British, no less, once again.
  • Reported by Michael Rappaport
    Report Your News Got a similar story?
    Add it to the network!

    Or add related content to this report

    Cell phones Cell phones use report code: @4240422

    Most Popular Reports

    Related Allvoices Reports

    Related People

    Contributions

    Help and Accounts


    Use of this site is governed by our Terms of Use Agreement and Privacy Policy.

    © Allvoices, Inc 2008-2009. All rights reserved.