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Do Phillips' accusations kill the music?

Glendale : CA : USA | 2 months ago  
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  • The Mamas and the Papas
    The Mamas and the Papas
    Posted by: CaliforniaMike
    John Phillips is on the right.
  • Mackenzie Phillips
    Mackenzie Phillips
    Posted by: CaliforniaMike
    A troubled life.
The Mamas and the Papas

In the 1980s, when some of the earliest scandals involving athletes became public, basketball player Kareem Abdul-Jabbar made an interesting statement.

Jabbar, who eventually retired as the leading scorer of all time in the National Basketball Association, said it was ridiculous to look at celebrities as role models. He suggested that a far healthier society would celebrate people for what they did well, rather than expecting them to be perfect.

In light of today's accusations by actress Mackenzie Phillips against her late father John Phillips, that statement certainly comes into play. John Phillips was the primary creative force behind the great '60s rock group, the Mamas and the Papas.

Several of their biggest recordings -- "California Dreamin' and "Monday Monday," to name two -- are part of the soundtrack of an awful lot of people's '60s memories.

Now daughter Mackenzie, 49, is claiming that when she was 19, her father gave her drugs so that he could have sex with her, beginning a 10-year incestuous affair that allegedly didn't end until she had an abortion at age 29.

John Phillips has been dead for years, so he can't defend himself. The fact is, there were enough stories about him not being a particularly nice guy that it's impossible to just write the accusations off.

I don't even want to get into that. I'm enough of a believer that I'm convinced that if her accusations are true, her father is paying the price for it for all eternity.

But I wonder ...

Will I listen to "California Dreamin'" the same way?

Will the songs be any less beautiful?

I honestly don't know.

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Posted By ahol888 ahol888 | 2 months ago
You have to separate the music from the person, just like we all did with Michael Jackson and continue to do with R. Kelly and Kanye West. It also puts an eerie feeling that the show she used to be on was called 'One Day at a Time.'
Reply By InspectorGadget InspectorGadget | 2 months ago
At the end of the day, you are supporting an artist by listening to his or her music. Michael Jackson was found not guilty, and nothing Kanye West has done compares to these allegations. You can "separate music from the person", but there is a limit. Some things are just inseparable. If true, the guy was absolutely sick.
Posted By rroxas08 rroxas08 | 2 months ago
I sorry to have known this.
Posted By ladym33 ladym33 | 2 months ago
I will seperate the music from the man and still in enjoy it. I think her step mom is in denial. Why would someone say they did something like that if they didn't? Unless McKenzie is just insane. I don't think she is insane, I just think her and her father were in a foggy haze for most of their lives, which could certainly lead to what McKenzie says if you are so stoned out of your mind all the time.
Reply By pollard pollard | 2 months ago
I don't care how stoned you are, there is no excuse for something like this. That's a dumb statement to make a foggy haze, give me a brake.
Reply By ladym33 ladym33 | 2 months ago
I didn't say it was right. The point I was trying to make is that the step mother should not be in such denial because this man obviously lived a sick life, and so did McKenzie. To doubt anything he might have done is to be in denial. I would never say something like that is right or that there is any excuse for that. Just that people who are stoned out of their mind do things normal people wouldn't do. That does not make it right.
Posted By spike-breaker08 spike-breaker08 | about 1 month ago
His music doesn't need to sacrifice for what he've done, it a separate thing.
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