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In Afghanistan General McChrystal offers Failure and Worse Failure I offer Success!

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Kabul : Afghanistan | 2 months ago  
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McChrystal to Obama your options are failure or worse failure, Wrong! Enlist the tribes to fight for their region's as Pakistan did! Where the hell is Afghanistan's Lashkar? Unify Afghanistan take back your country? American's go home! US general warns of Afghan failure

Analysis: Obama war choice: escalate or scale back WRONG!

Scale back! Get out! We keep hearing how tough Afghani's are. Prove it! We keep hearing how we must get to Taliban moderates and Afghan moderates well get with it do it now and let them fight for their country. Moderate tribesmen in parts of militant-ravaged north-west Pakistan are challenging Taliban extremists threatening to overrun their area, in what will develop into a mass resistance movement. They will succeed I have faith!

Pakistan has formed Lashkar's, Lashkar's are armed military camps and the fighters volunteering to join them to fight and kill the Taliban fight for the Government and love their country they gladly leave their families and fight for nothing, eradicating the Taliban is their sole goal. One of the tribal leaders said there is a civil war, the people against the Taliban.

Those at this Jirga came with their Russian machine guns from fighting in Afghanistan in the 80s talking of the horrors they saw committed by the Taliban in the Swat valley and vowed to kill them all.More than 10,000 volunteered to join. Please watch the video this is impressive! Pakistani tribesmen form their own Lashkar's to defeat the Taliban

Villagers in parts of North-West Frontier province and the tribal territory, faced with the violent advance of the Pakistani Taliban, are starting to organize an armed indigenous resistance in the not really because of an absence of help but because they feel the army will cause more problems and they can do it better. The resistance has parallels with the "Sunni awakening" in Iraq, where tribesmen took on al-Qaida militants in Anbar province and elsewhere.Palestinian citizens had to rebel against being used as human shields.

Afghanistan is going to have to do the same thing. This is what it has come to. You stand up and fight for the life you want or let yourself be enslaved by Muslim extremists. General McChrystal says we need more troops in Afghanistan or we will fail. Fail at what? Joining the Graveyard of Nations? We have already succeeded! Our original goal was to unseat the Taliban and deny Bin Laden a safe haven. We accomplished that so get out with our heads held high!

I thought we weren't in the business of Nation building? Afghanistan does not want a centralized Government they as you know are tribal and do not want one. Funny but Pakistan is largely tribal but they want a central Government and freedom from the Taliban to continue to have their tribal customs and freedoms and are fighting for it!

That is what Afghanistan must do! America and NATO must get the hell out! We have been their over 8 years, twice as long as WW2! If Afghanistan wanted freedom from the Taliban they would already be trained and fighting for it instead of just letting themselves be killed as pawns. Get rid of corrupt Karzai! Why are the Afghan's not forming Lashkar's and killing the Taliban if they want their freedom from them?

* Have a fair election, get rid of Karzai,Feed and supply Afghani Lashkar to fight if they want their freedom as Pakistan is and get the hell out! That is the only answer not less or more troops. Our soldiers did their job leave now with heads held high not our tails between our legs like Saigon!

James Joiner

Gardner, Ma

http://www.anaveragepatriot.com/

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  • Posted By starsandstripes starsandstripes | 2 months ago
    To read full unclassified Assessment report of Gen McChrystal's go to:

    http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/Assessment_Redacted_092109.pdf?sid=ST2009092003140
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    Thanks Stars and Stripes!
  • Posted By FauziaSultana FauziaSultana | 2 months ago
    Hello jim.Your report definitely supports the tribal people who are going all out to fight the insurgents in the northern areas of Pakistan.Its heartening to see that you have faith in them.We all are very proud of the Lashkers and hope InshaAllah they will succeed in their efforts.However I doubt if the people in neighbouring Afghanistan will follow suit and seriously try to get rid of the Taliban there.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    Hi Fauzia
    Yes I have faith in them and they should make even a fool realize Afghanistan will have to fight too if they want their freedom but they do not want it! We should concentrate on the border and helping Pakistan who does want their freedom and Democracy. Failure in Afghanistan was a given from day one but we are fools enough not to know that!
  • Posted By jdangjenn jdangjenn | 2 months ago
    Didn't a similar strategy work in El Salvador back in the 1980s when Reagan trained the local army to defeat the guerrillas. I wonder why we didn't do this from the beginning in Afghanistan if we had it'd be a backpage story and the Taliban and Al Qaeda would be a bad memory.
  • Posted By jdangjenn jdangjenn | 2 months ago
    Why didn't we do this from the beginning in Afghanistan? I seem to recall that back in 2001 the tribesmen were eager to join up and kill Taliban for us. If we had Al Qaeda and the Taliban would be bad memories and Afganistan would be a backpage story. I might note such policies are nothing new the US did something similar in Greece in the late 1940s and El Salvador in the 1980s. The Marlin Brando character in Apocalypse Now also talked about something like this.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    jdangjenn
    One word answer man, Bush! He diverted from Afghanistan to attack Iraq to get us into the middle east to go after Iran! The tribes have to do do this as they are in Pakistan or there will be no victory period!
  • Posted By Punditty Punditty | 2 months ago
    Bush. I'm starting to feel sick to my stomach.

    I'll never forget when he said that he wasn't too concerned about bin Laden.

    From an October 2002 press conference:

    Q: But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

    BUSH: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him (bin Laden). And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.
  • Posted By ladym33 ladym33 | 2 months ago
    Thank you for the good reporting.
  • Posted By sudhir sudhir | 2 months ago
    The US defeat in Afghanistan is a writing on the wall. The US led NATO forces can't sustain the occupation any further amid the growing successful attacks of Taliban on the alien forces in Afghanistan. The foreign forces will soon submit their format requests to their respective political leadership in the West to make arrangements for their safe and honourable exit from the landlocked Afghanistan. The US general has hinted at an actual position and imminent defeat at the hands of Taliban in Afghanistan. Afghans have never been subdued by any foreign and alien forces.
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    Hi Punditty
    I know! I still can not believe the alcoholic life long loser was our President. What an embarrassment and there are some who want to follow it still with Paling. Sick!
    A. Bin Laden dead or alive will always be the rallying call for Islamist extremist. Even dead he is alive!
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    Thank you Ladym!
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    Hi sudhir
    Yes, anything at all Bush touched with his grubby hands and worthless mind and that is just about everything is doomed to failure. In 04 I sad he would be known as the President who brought down America but his pundits will try to give that credit to Obama!
  • Posted By spike-breaker08 spike-breaker08 | 2 months ago
    james, thank you for such a wonderful article..
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 2 months ago
    Thank You!
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