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Can Christianity be saved by Christians? NJ poll: 35% Obama could be Anti-Christ

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In a September 16, 2009 interview on Rachel Maddow’s show on MSNBC, Frank Schaeffer, the author of “Crazy for God” asked the question:

“Can Christianity be saved by Christians?” Meaning that he, as a devout Christian, does not agree with the radical segment of society that has hijacked the true values of God, Christ, and the peace and tolerance they symbolize.

Schaeffer, who grew up in a strict evangelical home, has this subtitle on his book: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back .

Schaeffer is the son of the late evangelist Francis Schaeffer, who died in 1984.

During the interview, Rachel Maddow revealed a survey that was done in the state of New Jersey, which asked Christian participants if they thought President Obama was the Anti-Christ.

The result was 18% “yes” and 17% “unsure”. That’s 35% who either think the president is the Anti-Christ or are not sure. Not sure?

Thankfully, that means that 65% sane Christian Americans answered the survey with a “no” answer, but 35% is a frightening number that is clear evidence of the religious sub-culture that Frank Schaeffer talks about.

According to Schaeffer, they are known mostly as a segment of our society, who takes Evangelical Christianity beliefs to the extreme. They believe the appearance of the Anti-Christ will soon be followed by the “rapture”: A mysterious evacuation of true “believers” into the atmosphere, where their bodies will transform into celestial beings that will pass into the heavenly dimension to meet Jesus.

“The religious far right is a sub-culture that has been weaned on our mother’s milk, and taught from birth through high school to reject facts,” said Schaeffer. “These are a bunch of people who believe in the coming of the Anti-Christ and many of them are beyond crazy.”

Mr. Schaeffer believes the extreme religious indoctrination has “rotted the brains” of many in the evangelical sub-culture, who are waiting for Armageddon, when they believe Jesus will come back to save them.

“They are dangerous,” says Schaeffer, because they have been left behind and they are bitter. They have been left behind by science, by art, by culture, and many have become emboldened by current events. When you have people showing up at town hall meetings carrying guns: It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

The radical religious sub-culture crazies are from “la-la land”. They have become a cult that has been fed “red meat by the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity,” said Schaeffer. These are (talk show hosts) people who are not terribly bright, who are talking to even stupider people.”

If the day comes when some self-righteous religious radical-cult member goes out and kills someone in these heated times, Schaeffer believes, people like Limbaugh and Hannity should be held complicit in their deaths, because they are feeding hate and toxic rhetoric to religious and mentally radical people.

There have been fears of violence as the town hall meetings and teabagger rallies have been a driving force in whipping up tempers and clashing ideologies.

This morning, the Huffington Post ran an article on Nancy Pelosi’s request for a calmer atmosphere in our public discourse:

"I think we all have to take responsibility for our actions and our words. We are a free country and this balance between freedom and safety is one that we have to carefully balance," she said.

"I saw," she added, choking up, "I saw this myself in the late seventies in San Francisco. This kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it gave--it created a climate in which violence took place."

The San Francisco riots in the mid 70’s were violent and had police beatings, and several shootings. Most notably, Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official in the state of California. He was shot by an arch-conservative, Dan White.

To sum up her interview with Frank Schaeffer, Rachel Maddow asked him if there was any one in the Republican party that could turn it around and quiet all the conspiracy theories.

Schaeffer said there had been hope for John McCain, when he worked on his campaign to get him elected over Bush, but “McCain sold out when he aligned himself with Sarah Palin.”

The radical animosity toward Barack Obama was seeded in the campaign rhetoric that Palin piled on in stacks of “Drill, baby, Drill” gusto.

Furthermore, in October, 2008, in the midst of the campaign, Frank Schaeffer was very concerned about the level of rancor and prejudice being allowed and wrote a public letter to McCain published in the Baltimore Sun, with a plea to denounce such a festering and vitriolic tone, because it could lead to violence.

That was then, and this is now. The prejudice and hate filled speech has expanded into Nazi sign-carrying, gun-toting, name-calling, all out toxic pesimissim; fueled by Republican leaders, who call the president a “liar” and red-meat throwing talking-heads.

Schaeffer answered Maddow’s question by saying there was no one he could think of that had the integrity and leadership in the Republican party that can pull it back from the brink of insanity and the era of “you lie” Joe Wilson.

According to Schaeffer, who was once a Repbulican before changing to an Independent: Reagan would despise today's wholly negative Republican Party.

Will all the sane Christians and spiritual leaders in the room please stand up?

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Copyright DelilahStarling 2009

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Posted By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
A very interesting article. My one question (or concern) is: Why is Rachel Maddow talking to a religious leader about politics?
ie; "Is there anyone in the Republican Party who can turn it around?" A good question, but not offered to the right person. See, the media continues to help MANUFACTURE CONTROVERSY by doing just what Rachel did.
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
Caveatlector, I think you may have misunderstood the article.

Frank Schaeffer is not a religious leader. He left the religious right in 1980, when he began to see how Anti-American it was and he became an author of several New York best sellers that were not all about religion. He wrote one about the relationship he has with his son who is in the military.

Schaeffer has been involved in politics very heavily and campaigned for McCain, until he took up with Palin. In the end Schaeffer endorsed Obama for president and wrote an article entitled “Why I am pro-life and pro-Obama.”

Rachael Maddow asked a very appropriate question of Schaeffer, who is politically astute and has been politically knowledgeable and involved for decades. That is what good reporters do.

I respectfully beg to differ that she was MANUFACTURING CONTROVERSY. The radical religious sub-cult and their participation in current events are the ones who are manufacturing controversy. Along with the bus loads of people that were paid by lobbiests to attend and disrupt town hall meetings.
Reply By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
You know, Delilah, I think you're correct. I was thinking of Schaeffer's father and that pretty much shoots down the rest of my contention and Maddow's question was appropriate in this case. Thanks for pointing this out. BUT, I still have issues with all the cable networks's coverage of the news. I still think they manufacture controversy a lot. But not in this particular case.
Reply By KatePerez KatePerez | 2 months ago
I wonder, Delilah, if you saw all the ACORN and SEIU T-shirts on those disembarking from the busses?

I wonder, Delilah, if you saw all the manufactured signs with SEIU or a little acorn in the corner that those who were standing around outside of townhall meetings were carrying.

Bertha, the CEO of ACORN said she has 700 or so employees. So, did they just throw 700 people on busses and take them around the country, or did ACORN pick up some people from the poor and underprivileged areas of the cities and bus them to the town hall meetings with a promise of a new shirt, a few bucks, and a nice sign?

I find Rachel Maddow to be ANYTHING but a good reporter. If you read my other post, you will see that she is presuming that all the 65% of New Jersey people who said Obama was not the anti-Christ were reasonable thinking Christians. How does she know that? How many were Muslim, Buddhists, Atheists? They don't believe in the anti-Christ and so would not agree that Obama would be something they do not even consider. THAT is NOT good reporting.
Reply By CaliforniaMike CaliforniaMike | 2 months ago
They weren't Buddhists, Muslims or Atheists. The poll was a poll of Christians.
Posted By mhughes mhughes | 2 months ago
I think FOX is hands down a lot better than Rachel at manufacturing controversy.

Rachel's question is a fair one. Obama has to answer questions regarding the left (media, surrogates, constituents and all) accusing the right of using racism in their latest attacks on Obama. Obama is forced to make statements saying that its not racism in an effort to deflate hysteria and reduce the ever escalating disdain between the parties. Why shouldn't someone from the Republican side be forced to answer when their side throws around accusations - like calling Obama the anti-Christ? Or that he was not born here? Or that he is Hitler?
Posted By caveatlector caveatlector | 2 months ago
I'm just not interested in what any so-called religious leader has to say about politics. Most of these characters who get on TV are not worthy of consideration. Most of their ridiculous rants wouldn't get far anyway if the media (mainly cable news) wouldn't give them or their comments any airtime.
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
Again, Frank Schaeffer is not a religious leader, but he was raised in a very strick evangelical Christian environment, that h turned away from decades ago, so he has witnessed the radical religious sub-culture first hand.

He is a very politcally astute individual and has been involved in politics for a long time. I would give him a lot more credibility than Pat Buchanan, who makes numerous appearances and writes conservative articles, like the one entitled, "Say Goodbye to Grandma", regarding "death panels".
Reply By firesisle firesisle | 2 months ago
Delilah,
You seem very quick to judge the religious beliefs of others; are you a Christian? If so, respectfully, what do you believe? If not, what level of understanding do you have?

The "Christian right" is very extreme, to be sure, and I've actively worked against some of them in my own city, especially on GLBT issues. I am, however, a devout Christian and a conservative. I agree with you about Pat Buchanan.

The concept of the "Anti-Christ" is very basic to most knowledgable Christians. Many believe that we are in the "end times". Unfortunately, far too many "Christians" will aswer "yes" when asked their religion, but know very little or nothing about the religion they profess to follow, showing up occasionally on Sunday, and believing any idiot who claims that such-and-such is in the Bible.

I think that explains both your 18%, who said yes, and are probably parroting something they heard elsewhere, and the 17% who are "unsure" because they haven't really thought about it.

I know a lot of Christians, and nobody I've heard or spoken to has said anything about Obama being the Anti-Christ; my church hasn't mentioned it(of course our membership is about 1/2 black; there are lots of black Evangelical Christians)

There are also churches like Rev. Wright's House of Hate, Racism, and Extreme Politics,(both black and white)
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
Hi firesisle, I’m curious, what made you say that I am "quick to judge the religious beliefs of others?"

Did you read this article? It is not based on my personal opinion, nor is it base on my poll. It is a news report on the interview Rachel Maddow did with Frank Schaeffer, author of "Crazy for God". It is a compelling story--coming from a person who grew up being brain-washed by a radical faction dominated by his father's biblical interpretations of evangelical beliefs.

I think, and yes, this is my personal opinion, that contributors on Allvoices are predominately op/ed blog pieces, and not so much journalistic news reports. So when one appears, it seems natural to assume the author must be talking about their own opinions--and that's not necessarily true.

Yes, of course, people are going to write about subjects that they can identify with, but that doesn't reveal everything about the writer's personal beliefs. Especially, when it comes to religion.

But to connect anything regarding Rev. Wright, et al. to a Frank Schaeffer interview is just odd. Again--did you read the article?

I try to bring a bit of all: statistics, sources, and personal commentary to my reports, with the heavier side leaning toward people who know more than I do about any particular subject: politics, environmental, or wildlife conservation.

It's easy for folks to sit down at their computers and pound out their "personal beliefs" on any given subject. It's quite another to take the time to actually report something news worthy from a credible variety of source on any topical issue.

No matter what people think of Frank Schaeffer's "Crazy for God" or Rachel Maddow for interviewing him--they have not walked a mile in his shoes and they can not invalidate his experience, just because they don't agree.

The only commentary that comes directly from my personal view on the subject--is the last line:

"Will all the sane Christians and spiritual leaders in the room please stand up?"
Posted By snail snail | 2 months ago
To me, it feels like religion too frequently these days becomes a sandbox where small-minded people play. Too many people disguise their beliefs under the warm cover of religion. In many ways I almost feel like religion is out-dated. Or maybe it is us to have in some weird way misunderstood the true meaning of religion.

I am yet to read a religious book that truly encourages degrading, violent behavior, yet somehow all the fundamentalists of this world seems to think exactly that. To me that is pretty sad and embarrassing that religion becomes the 'sacred' hideout for people scared and feared of change, diversity and community.

Maybe it is time we stop finding issues with everyone else. To quote the JFK: "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

Take out America and put in anything and you have the real path for the future.
Reply By macasey macasey | 2 months ago
Amen!
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
Snail, I like your analogy "religion too frequently these days becomes a sandbox where small-minded people play."

I don't think that is true of all religions, but the radical sub-culture that Schaeffer has been speaking out against for years is very much alive and well--and it gives good Christians and people of faith a bad name and more of them should speak out against.

Thanks for the comment!
Reply By firesisle firesisle | 2 months ago
Actually, I would heartily agree with that statement completely. It answers the questions I asked in my previous reply nicely. Thanks for sharing.

It's a shame that far too many lump all Christians together, in much the same manner that they combine all conservatives, or all liberals.
Posted By commentaryaside commentaryaside | 2 months ago
DelilahStarling - you are the most partisan person on this website. You must surely jest with these repeated attempts to label all protestors and non-supports of Obama as radicals, zealots, or anti-American. To even suggest such - is by far the most anti-American thing to do to your country.
Reply By CaliforniaMike CaliforniaMike | 2 months ago
I'm quite frankly stunned. How can you possibly say Delilah is the most partisan person here? Read Redhanded101, or Ross1776. Heck, read me.

We make Delilah look like she's right in the middle of the road.
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
Commentaryaside,

I see that you have been signed up as a member of Allvoices for a total of four days and you have contributed 0 articles. So, I'm going to assume you are speaking out of journalistic ignorance.

This is called a "news report." It is formulated from other credible sources, quotes, links, and commentary.

So, as much as you seem to enjoy unprovoked attacks, you don't have the right to kill the messenger here.

The only commentary that came straight from my take on the subject--is the very last line.

You haven't even been a member long enough to know who is the most "partisan person on this website", so I suspect you are an Allvoices member who has registered under another name, so you can continue your obnoxious tirades under Anonymity. I will simply place you on the growing list of people that are too offensive to be taken seriously--and ignore you.
Reply By jongleur jongleur | 2 months ago
commentaryaside, What is un-American is the divisiveness and blatantly slanted mean-spirited questions that the Public Policy Polling folks directed to New Jersey households--shameful and lacks integrity. The teabaggers, birthers, truthers, and those banking on an apocalypse should re-direct their misguided energies in positive directions that will actually help solve the real problems on this planet, rather than polarizing this country and turning its citizens against each other and the standing President.
- jongleur
Reply By snail snail | 2 months ago
You made me laugh out loud. Thanks! :-) How is posting a comment and opinion becoming anti-American?

I think your comment is more anti-American more than anything as you clearly haven't read the First Amendment. You clearly do not get the free part of free speech and that is the key and very, very central for true democracy.

The over-protectionism your comment breath is a central component of the issues we all around the world. When we finally start to not point fingers at others and look into ourselves what we can do to make this change, then we will have progress.
Posted By KatePerez KatePerez | 2 months ago
Rachel Maddow is nothing more than Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reiley in a skirt. She is nothing more and nothing less than any other political talk-show host.

Celebrities are not political experts, and neither are religious leaders. They may know how to act, how to perform but that does not make them capable of reasonable and educated information on the world of politics.

Name calling has got to stop. Stop calling me a racist, stop calling the liberals "Kool-aid drinkers" and stop all the ridiculousness. Nancy Pelosi is one to talk, calling the Republicans who would protest the high cost of being an American by calling them astroturfers, Nazis and brown-shirts.

I guess that it's time to learn to practice what you preach on both sides of the coin.

Is Obama the Anti-Christ? Well, Maddow said 65% of Christians are thinking clearly. Is that accurate? How many of that 65% said he was not the anti-Christ because they do not believe in a God, or they have a different religious base and so they do not believe in an anti-Christ? She is supposing that all those polled in New Jersey were of some Christian faith. Now THAT is good reporting, there ! (read the sarcasm)
Reply By macasey macasey | 2 months ago
Rachel Maddow is arguably one of the most intelligent people on television today. You have obviously not watched her show. She is very fair, very smart, and gets guests that Hannity could never get. She often has on conservatives and has had on many Republican Senators and Congressman; many of them respect her and trust her. You might want to watch the interview the author of this article is writing about.

It is amazing how many Republicans do not know that most Democrats have felt for years that the Republican Party has been hijacked by the extreme "Right". Of course there are reasonable Republicans and even some reasonable Republican pundits, but take a look at your Senators and your Congressman. I can think of two Congressman that are reasonable and maybe two Senators. Democrats have "Blue Dogs" to balance the Party; tons of Blue Dogs!

Typical sign at Republican protest - "This is a Christian Nation" - this implies that anyone that is not a Christian or a Republican is "un-American". See Michele Bachman. And how about the chants of USA-USA? Is this President not American? Is this President not a Christian?

The nastiest thing in the world is to use God and country to shutout large segments of the population, to somehow make them feel unequal or less “Christian”. Regrettably, this is what some in the Republican Party have done for 9 years! I believe this started with Bush 43, others have argued that it started earlier.

The author’s words - "Reagan would despise today's wholly negative Republican Party". YES HE WOULD!

By the way, I challenge anyone to watch Rachel Maddow and find one word that she has ever said that is not complete truth. Rachel Maddow is all about truth and facts - it's in her DNA! She is highly respected on the "left" and by many on the "right". They wouldn’t come on her show if they didn’t respect her.

Sorry for the rant on Rachel, but she’s well worth defending! Check her show out just once and you might find that you agree.
Reply By Changez Changez | 2 months ago
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Reply By snail snail | 2 months ago
I do agree that the namedropping is useless. Yet I am not sure it really does matter what the reasons for calling him anti-Christ are. The danger is when that kind of vocabulary gets used the real issues fades away into a pissing contest of who can be the more rhetorical one and use the bigger words. You see. It is not about rhetorics here. it is about actions and setting a scene where we stop with these silly labelings.

We have way too many serious issues at hand to focus no labels and analyzing who did what and where and so forth. It is really silly. Let us not drop the eye on the ball here.
Reply By Changez Changez | 2 months ago
Mike just answered above and the article clearly states that the poll was specifically of Christians, not athiests, muslims or buddhists etc.

Talk show hosts are celebrities now, but they used to be, and in some cases still are, actual journalists or political analysts or experts in various fields have experience and publications or credentials behind them.

Rachel Maddow has a lot more behind her as far as serious journalist goes than Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly or Beck have. Those are talking heads. She's a reporter who still reports.
Posted By Bethany Bethany | 2 months ago
Did they CALL him the anti-Christ, or believe it was possible. Many people believe that the anti-Christ can be anyone, in which case the question is rather pointless but they would still say yes.
Though there are some crazies.

I am conservative in my personal religious beliefs and liberal politically. Apparently that's not the cool thing to do these days, but I still manage to work for a church, vote mostly Democrat, and I can sleep at night knowing I haven't sold out. Nor do I live in imminent fear that my President is going to brand me with his Sign. I voted for him.. so that would suck.

Do I count as sane yet?
Reply By macasey macasey | 2 months ago
Conservative religious beliefs and liberal politics are a perfect match. Liberals care about people. Look at who brought us Civil Rights, Medicare, Children's Health Care, Social Security, etc. Liberals are all about caring for people.

"There but for the grace of God go I” If only we all remembered this and cared about our fellow human beings.

As for your comment; I think you're very cool.
Reply By Bethany Bethany | 2 months ago
Thanks macasey! Yes, I agree about them going perfectly together. Many people don't seem to see that - religious people often shun liberalism and 'nice people' often shun religion. I'd like to see that turned around, and try to do my little part. Thanks for standing up with me.
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
Bethany, yes you are sane, and thanks for standing up. Your comment made me smile, because so many here are just bent on being mean-spirited. Take care.
Reply By Bethany Bethany | 2 months ago
:) Thanks for your report
Posted By amalgam80 amalgam80 | 2 months ago
Man that is one crazy piture...it's scary. And funny...but mostly scary.

Oh and to KatePerez...Muslims do believe in an Anti-Christ and you said:

"Maddow said 65% of Christians are thinking clearly. Is that accurate? How many of that 65% said he was not the anti-Christ because they do not believe in a God, or they have a different religious base and so they do not believe in an anti-Christ? She is supposing that all those polled in New Jersey were of some Christian faith. Now THAT is good reporting, there ! (read the sarcasm)"

The survey was of Christians, I think Christians believe in a God, I think the religious base of Chritstians is Christianity. Maddow is supposing the Christians from New Jersey are Christians. I would consider that good reporting.

The survey was of Christians. In New Jersey.
Reply By KatePerez KatePerez | 2 months ago
Can you give me a link to your information?

Thanks for the clarification on Muslims.

The Bible supports the theory that Obama could be the anti-Christ. I guess I'm one of the loonies who thinks it is possible, and I'm not even sure that the Bible is accurate.

Christian or not, it does not matter, if someone had read Revelations and seen what is happening now, it is a logical assumption that Obama is fitting the bill.

AND anyone who believes Rachel Maddow is a good "reporter" is as deluded as someone who believes Rush, Hannity, and the like are always right.
Reply By DelilahStarling DelilahStarling | 2 months ago
amalgam80, geez, I agree with you on the photograph. I came across it in my search for the right graphic and--this was the one, because it is so sinister and forboding.

You are exactly correct on the New Jersey poll. It was self-proclaimed Christians that participated. I am not a big believer in polls, but even if you put plus or minus 5, it's still too big a number.
Posted By Ross1776 Ross1776 | 2 months ago
It appears your rendering and Ms. Maddow's as were presented are not Christian at all. Christ didn't teach tolerance of sin in any manner whatsoever. Even the tale of the adulterous woman, he interceded in that one instance in order to preach a lesson to those that were quick to condemn, but did not condone the woman's sin whatsoever. So I guess you, as others and Ms. Maddow, really don't understand Christianity at all.

And also used a whip to drive the moneychangers who were gouging his people for their profits from the Temple, if you would recall. And did teach "turning the other cheek," merely because he knew God was just, and would deal with the nonbelievers and those that believed in a pharisetic version of his teachings in his own time, and in his own way.

So, nice spin, again...and again...and again...
Posted By Ross1776 Ross1776 | 2 months ago
Bush was as much in alignment with this agenda as Obama. And so are about three fouths those now sitting on the Hill in one way or another.

Since the one who prints the money, controls the economy. And who prints our money is the British London banking houses, and you might want to read the history on them, and just who they are and what their actual beliefs are.

Because it certainly isn't Christian, Muslim or Jewish.
Posted By ahol888 ahol888 | 2 months ago
Obama certainly is not the Antichrist because in some evangelical circles, the "rapture" occurs before the Antichrist is revealed to the world. Anyway, I am surprised that Rachel Maddow would take a poll from New Jersey seriously; we're talking about New Jersey. New Jersey is so horrible, the Giants and the Jets actually play in New Jersey, but they call themselves New York. If anyone wants clues on who the Antichrist really is, then read the works of the great philospher Hippolytus.
Reply By macasey macasey | 2 months ago
saw the interview; it's very good. The interview covers a lot of ground, and this widely publicized poll is just one part of the interview.

Funny, I thought it was odd that the poll was taken in New Jersey too - go figure? If these were the results of a Jersey poll, what would the results be in our southern States?
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Posted By khawaja khawaja | 2 months ago
this answer could be given by any Christians. people said that bush is a very extremist in Christians. but may be obama is not. but in ur news report we can easily to explane and understand. good news report.
Posted By Changez Changez | 2 months ago
Great Article delilah, really enjoyed reading it and for the first time, while I was reading it I got angry about joe wilson calling Obama a liar, and I realised what a quite large deal that is and how ignorant it is of people to applaud that.

To say in the middle of a speech by the President of the United States, the President of your country, that he is a liar, is beyond breaking decorum, it is beyond rude, it is truly despicable. So far i've been on the 'big deal let him go and be an idiot line of thought' but right now I got angry, and I want to get even; this 'man' (haah) should be crucified for what he said and what he is doing with that now. He should be sued for slander, expelled from the house or any number of other things; I give Obama credit for holding his hand. Under 8 years of Bush's lies, no one said a thing, not like this; there's a way, a time and a place to oppose the Presidents statements, but to shout it out, in Congress, that the President is lying to your face, is really somehting that deserves a hard reaction.

Sorry that this had nothing to do with your post, but it happened as I read.
Reply By birdpond birdpond | 2 months ago
Changez, it does have a lot to do with the post; this is the crisis that's currently shackling/dividing our country. Thank you as always for your astute, to-the-point observations, and thank you, Delilah Starling, for having the courage to bring us these reports.
Posted By kingofgreece kingofgreece | 2 months ago
may the god protct you all thanks
Posted By mllovric mllovric | 2 months ago
No Barack Obama is not a Antichrist. 19/9/2009.
Reply By Changez Changez | 2 months ago
He could be. He signs things with his left hand apparently. I think I remember that. But then you know more about it then I do, so I'll just hope there is no anti-christ and we all survive the next 100 years without needing a messiah to come and tell us what's right or wrong.
Reply By Write4Life Write4Life | 2 months ago
The anti-Christ is a lefty? Wow - might be me then!
Reply By firesisle firesisle | 2 months ago
Or me... wow... who knew?
Posted By mllovric mllovric | 2 months ago
Don't believe the leftist to be an antichrist. My sister in Australia signs her name with her left hand, everything she writes is done with her
left hand, she even uses the scissors to cut things in her left hand and
uses the knife to carve meat and eats with her left hand. Gemelyn, my younger step-daughter is the same. My youngest, the four year old son is
another lefty but none of them are antichrist. The Antichrist has been prophessied to come from Germany as Magog, meaning Pope Benedict at this this time namely Ratzinger or translated as (THE RAT). 20/9/2009.
Posted By winds7seas winds7seas | 2 months ago
I hope the 35% aren't crazy, though I question their sanity. I remember a big to-do about Ronald Wilson Reagan being the Anti-Christ. You know, six letters in each name-666- the mark of the devil. I guess they were wrong.

Well, people in this country are allowed to believe in anything they want to believe in. They can worship cats if they want to.

I used to really enjoy studying the Bible, religion, Christian history, books that didn't make it through the cannonization process, and any other writings that I could find that were written especially during that time when Jesus walked the earth. After reading everything that I could find that's been translated into English, I solidified my personal beliefs, made peace with God and myself, and moved on.

Most Biblical scholars agree that John wrote the Book of Revelations specifically concerning the relationship between the Israelites and the Roman Empire. He was expecting all of his predictions to come to fruition during his own lifetime. He wasn't writing about things that might happen 2,000 years in the future. John, and the other strongly political writers at that time period had to write in code when they critisized and, especially, predicted the downfall of the Roman Empire, or they'd be arrested and probably executed.

Sorry if I went a bit off-topic, but it kind of disturbs me to think that people are hunting for an Anti-Christ based on John's writings of Revelations. Some people are actually looking forward to the end of the world. Reminds me of Dylan's line, "Instead of learning to live, they're waiting to die.".
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