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Confederate flag not a states' rights issue

Glendale : CA : USA | 2 months ago  
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When I was 21 years old, I realized how little I knew about anything other than my own sheltered background.

I went to work as a bank teller in Washington, D.C., at a branch bank about a dozen blocks north of the Capitol building on North Capitol St. We were across the street from the Government Printing Office, and about 50 percent of our customers were African-American.

I hadn't gone to school with anyone other than suburban white kids until my senior year, when Fairfax County, Va., closed its black high school and 300 kids were added to our student body of about 3,000.

I had reached the age of 21 without ever really having a conversation with a black person, and now my window at the bank was in between two black women. One was a college student about my own age, home from Boston for the summer.

She was cool, and we spent a lot of time talking.

I wasn't quite so stupid as to ask her if she knew Sammy Davis Jr. or Marvin Gaye (I swear I knew people in that summer of 1971 who thought all black people knew each other), but I was pretty callow.

I remember several times asking Cecilia, "What do black people think about ..." She cured me of it quickly by asking me what white people thought about the same things. That was when I realized I was treating her as a representative of her race and not as a person in her own right.

We didn't talk about serious issues. The wounds were still too raw in Washington just three years after the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the riots that had burned entire neighborhoods in the city.

Mostly we just talked and sort of became friends. Later that summer, she invited me to bring a date to a party she and some friends of hers were having.

It was a fascinating experience. My date and I were the only white people at the party. I heard some great music that was more than the usual Motown stuff so many of us grew up on, and I realized that the cooking of chitterlings might have been the worst food smell I had ever encountered.

Things have changed some since then for me. I've had black friends since then, and I've learned a lot more about treating people as individuals instead of symbols.

I've learned some other things too. I've learned that if you're going to take a stand that makes you look racist, you had better have a damn good reason. There were some decent, non-racist senators who voted against the Civil Rights Bill in 1964 because they thought someone who owned a restaurant or a hotel should be allowed to serve whoever they want.

They were wrong then, and the folks who defend South Carolina flying the Confederate flag on the basis of states' rights and historical tradition are wrong now.

It would be the same as if people somewhere in Germany wanted to display the swastika out of respect for tradition. To too many black South Carolinians -- and indeed other black Americans -- the tradition the Stars and Bars represents is about people in shackles kept in line by bullwhips.

There are certain things in our country that we don't allow the majority to do to the minority, and rubbing their faces in the history of slavery ought to be one of those things.

Yes, to some people the flag represents the great lost cause and the South of "Gone With the Wind," and if some unenlightened people want to fly the flag on private property, there's nothing we can do.

But flying the Confederate flag on the grounds of the state capitol says something to black people that we shouldn't be saying. It's telling them that hey, those Yankees forced us to free the slaves, but we still don't like you much.

I know that much without asking any of my friends what black people think about it.

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  • Posted By Sherrill_Fulghum Sherrill_Fulghum | 2 months ago
    That war ended over 130 years ago but there are still people in the deep south who act as though it never ended. It was one of the many reasons I moved north of the Mason-Dixon line.
  • Posted By ahol888 ahol888 | 2 months ago
    More proof that there are a bunch of idiots in South Carolina. They keep flying the 'Stars and Bars' because they are a bunch of losers just like the Confederates that lost in the Civil War 144 years ago. Listen to Coach Steve Spurrier and stop flying the flag at the state capitol. They have representatives that are losers too like Gov. Sanford on the old Appalachian trail, and Rep. Joe Wilson who does not know the meaning of respect. That is why elite black players do not go to play football and basketball at S. Carolina and they keep getting smashed by Florida; they keep flying the 'Stars and Bars' at the state capitol building.
  • Posted By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    Some folks are bitter because the North won the Civil War, and they are bitter because we have a 'liberal' in the White House. Soo ;
    "Obama lies", Obama is corrupt, Obama was born in Kenya, Obama is a racist who hates white people or the white culture, Obama is the Anti - Christ, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a socialist, Obama is a communist, Obama is a terrorist, Obama is unAmerican, Obama is a Nazi follower, Obama wants to kill Grandma, National Health Care will destroy America,
    It's not the Kennedy - McCain Amnesty Bill, it's really the Obama Amnesty Bill, We need to impeach Obama, ASAP! As for me, NONE of the above is true!!!
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  • Posted By JerrySatire JerrySatire | 2 months ago
    Mike - Thanks for the Confederate flag story.
    Of course, you are right. Lincoln should have let the South leave and form their own, 'fair and balanced' country. We would be MUCH better off today, we would have National Health Care and an Amnesty Bill. Senator John McCain needs to join the Democratic Party. [:-)
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  • Posted By firesisle firesisle | 2 months ago
    Our Constitution allows Nazis to march in the Jewish neighborhoods of Skokie, Il. It allows the Klu Klux Klan to hold rallies and burn crosses (on their own property). It also allows state capitols to fly any flag they wish. I understand that to many, the "stars and bars" represent slavery and racism, and that's understandable. It means something else to others, who see history in a different light. To others, it's a symbol of rebellion against oppressive government.

    The point is, as long as the people of South Carolina wish their state capitol to fly the Confederate flag, it will continue to fly. It's up to them to change it. Do I think it should be taken down? Yeah, probably, mainly because of the offense it presents to some US citizens.

    We can like it, hate it or whatever; it's their state and their prerogative. That's the thing about having constitutional rights; there's no guarantee they will be expressed in a manner that's not offensive, and we have no constitutional right to not be offended.
  • Reply By CaliforniaMike CaliforniaMike | 2 months ago
    I'm not sure you're right. We don't allow the majority to oppress the minority, and the flag is a very oppressive symbol to African-Americans.

    I seriously doubt that the majority of white South Carolinians want to hurt black people.
  • Posted By Sherrill_Fulghum Sherrill_Fulghum | 2 months ago
    The Stars and Bars means a number of different things to many people; but no matter what the personal feelings the flag represents an era in the history of the United States - a very bloody era that also represents the only war ever fought on US soil.
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