Punditty predicts outcome of health care battle, Obama's January '10 approval rating

Democrats are finding their voice how? I predict the Democrats will sneak in a program that will pass but be unpopular and controversial and extremely expensive. The result of this will probably be President Obama and a Republican Congress in 2011. President Obama wins reelection in 2012. Then we'll get twenty years of healthcare reform from both parties. Meanwhile Americans who want decent healthcare will have to dig out their credit cards and pay for it themselves.

Very interesting report punditty. However if all things remain the same as it is now in terms of national and international geo politics then I presume your predictions may be true.
Anyways I like your assessment. cj

From your lips to God's ear. [:-)
JerrySatire
www.Lampoon.net

Love the fact that a claimed disabled individual would be supporting this legislation, when there is so much now at the state levels provided and under Medicare for disabled individuals. Really astounding the spins being placed on this. And are you who you claim to be, Mr. Satire? Since most of the disabled are violently opposed to it, since in its present form may affect their ongoing treatments already.

Ross1776-

You doubt that borderexplorer is who she claims to be. Now you doubt that JerrySatire is who he claims to be. Do I detect a thread running through your comments?

it's called walking the thin edge of hysterical paranoia.

nothing will change...ever....both parties will continue to spread fear and propaganda to fulfill their agenda, turning american against american to retain their power.....a people divided are easy to rule

by stating that the year 2010 is going to be an interesting political year i hope by interesting you don;t mean dissapointing! :)

Disappointing in some ways, uplifting in others...but very interesting for sure.

Interesting predictions. I hope you're right.

Where is it that so many non-Americans seem to be so vitally interested in U.S. domestic policies, even posting articles as if they had some really true knowledge of our Constitution, or real form of government which is fundamentally different than their own?

Because it's the most powerful country in the world and when domestic changes occur in The States, the echo is felt in many places. Particularly when the President is involved since he is the face of the US to the world.

Yes, and why are so many Americans interested in other countries? Why are Californians interested in what happens in Louisiana? Why are some Iowans interested in scores of a game being played in Boston between the Red Sox and the Blue Jays? So many questions, no one right answer.

To Your Grandocious Pundittiness:

I obsequiously bow before Your Terrifically Obvious (or is that, Oblivious? I always get those two mixed up for some reason) Wisdom.

Your Shining Example of Something-or-otherness is a beacon for all us benighted souls who've been lost in the darkness (ie: Dick Cheney's aura) for such a horribly long time; Oh, where have you been all this time, Master of Blather, Bother, and Disaster?

We seek your powers of observation as desperately as a Peeping Tom standing outside the local YWCA longs for Clark Kent's X-ray specs; how, oh HOW did we even get this far without your soothing words to guide us?!?

I am humbled to realize that I did not recognize you for who you were in the first moments of my being ushered into the presence of your overpoweringness: the reincarnation of the Great Karnacki himself!

In other words, pretty good guesses, I bet myself a quarter that you'll turn out to be 99% right. So much so that I'm marking the dates in my Sexy Naked Grannies calender to keep track.

Thanx, and if you can't be good, at least be good at it.

EddieBuddha3,

I think I used to play on the same lacrosse team with a relative of yours, EddieBuddha2.5. He was a fine defender, but I still don't see how he moved that fast with the belly he had.

Funny you should mention Karnack. I started channeling Johnny Carson the other night while watching the utterly boring and I daresay unfunny Conan O'Brien. Where now are the Ed McMahonian guffaws of my misspent youth? Who weeps for the Mighty Carson Art Players now, uninsured and desperate, waiting for handouts outside a Hollywood hospice? The horror! The horror!

As for me, I am oblivious and tuned into the obvious, simultaneously. Like the rest of us.

what does punditty means kidlt tell and comment on mine one plz sir

I agree with you! I think a bill will pass for healthcare with some kind of public option but it will take longer than than few months to pass it. I am sure Dems want the bill passes ASAP but I think that congress has learned their lesson from passing bills too quickly such as the bailout bill last year before the election. The tensions are too high and the democratic party is divided between conservative and left wing liberals. I think with more debate it will be worth the wait.

What would you expect from a Berkeley liberal but to make this a "partisan" issue. How about a Constitutional one:

During all the townhall meetings and such with respect to this claimed "reform" of health care in America which is being promoted by the Obama Administration, it has truly astounded me and many other Americans that the key issues with respect to this legislation have not at all been addressed.

And that is the "legality" of any such legislation under our current form of government as encompassed by the U.S. Constitution.

Just how many aspects of this plan would not hold muster under the light of Constitutional provision? Fundamentally, almost all of them.

Starting with the fact that it is now within Congress or the Presidents enumerated powers of office to "mandate" that Americans must buy or "purchase" health care coverage at all. Their job is to to ensure freedom, not to take freedom away, in determining just what Americans choose to spend the money that is the result of the fruits of their own labors.

The 16th Amendment and income tax itself violated that "intent" and those provisions (since the 9th Amendment superceded the 16th, thus requiring the 'consent of the governed' for any such legislation), and now the Cap & Trade tax that was recently sped thorugh Congress (while even shutting down the Energy Committee website to remove the right of petition) another.

"Globally" taxing Americans now for the "greater good" of the planet was not something the founders would approve of in the slightest. Especially without the American people's express (rather than implied) consent using simply polls and media propaganda for the basis of this ludicrous legislation.

With the stimulus bill were sums that were included to hand over to Bill Gates and the telecom industry in order to facilitate also a federally funded database containing all Americans most privileged and personal information - their health care records. Definitely a violation of the "search and seizure" provisions of our Constitution, and fundamental Bill of Rights violation.

Who wants a federal lackey in Washingto to know whether or not you have ever contracted an STD or had an abortion? Or are HIV positive? Or underwent cancer treatment but have been determined to now be cancer free? Or saw a counselor during a traumatic life event or loss for a mental health tuneup?

Think of what a political tool and weapon this can be, in addition to such a fundamental privacy violation. Or how those records could then be subpoenaed by lawyers in civil suits, or eventually by employers in order to deny employment based on physical health even though the position and the health concern would have absolutly nothing to do with your ability to carryout the needed job functions.

Think how many more court actions and courts are going to be needed for all the legal challenges when this information is misued, or there is a security breach by some governmental employee that makes that movie on stolen identity a nightmare come true?

There is no inherent right for the government to overstep its Constitutional authority, but it appears that in the last decade that is all the government has actually done. Overstep its Constitutional authority time and time again.

To the point now where Americans are truly becoming outraged at these townhall meetings, but the socialists and fascists still haven't gotten the message and are now through DHS attempting to marginalize make the American people and victims of this governmental abuse those to "watch."

How dare they. Isn't it the American people who are paying their salaries, and were to be representatives of them with respect to Constitutional violations and not the other way around?

The spins continue. Just today there was an article again on the internet attempting to "explain" the Myths and Facts of Health Care Reform.

Of course, using "myths" again to obscure the true "facts." That Congress and the President are outside Constitutional authority in even wading in these waters. Especially during this currenct economic meltdown that has left many jobless and homeless - and will now be facing increased energy costs due to the last Constitutional abridgement if they can still hang onto their homes.

While they continue to feed the bankers and insurers that are primarily responsible for this economic meltdown, rather than protecting the people and citizens from such abuse.

Rather, the true "reform" would be to back up and reinstitute our Constitution, and instead use those telecom monies in order to set up a national complaint system for abusive insurers that deny coverage, or doctors who are overbilling and abusing the system. And then stripping those insurers or doctors of their licenses to do business for criminal fraud.

Co-ops are what insurance companies actually were to begin with. What is also needed is forbidding those commercial corporations that exist on public sums from investing in high risk investments with those premiums, such as what occurred with AIG. Not profiting off their criminal activities yet again with this legislation. And also the terms of the policies which are sold, and coverages which are now standardized and information shared within the industry without citizen recourse also as to what is included in that industry pool.

Obamacare once again shows that Mr. Obama's representations during this last election cycle shows that not only was his campaign rhetoric a bunch of hogwash with respect to the war, protecting the middle class, and Joe the Plumber, but even his credentials.

A Constitutional lawyer actually is a little familiar with the Constitution.

Which Mr. Obama clearly is not.

Nor is the 111th Congress that is even giving credence to this legislation in its current form.

Like you haven't made it partisan? What, are you suddenly "Mr. Neutral" in this whole debate?

Everyone who reads this should know, if they don't already, that President Obama served as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago Law School before running for the Senate. He just might know a little more about the Constitution than Ross1776 gives him credit for.

As for the "Berkeley liberal" remark, I am probably the only "liberal" you know who voted for Pat Buchanan (1996 primary - Pat was anti-NAFTA), John McCain (2000 primary) and Ron Paul (2008 primary). With a "liberal" like me, who needs conservatives?

Seriously, Ross1776, people would take your reports a lot more seriously if you didn't resort to name-calling and innuendo right away. And in spite of us not agreeing on health insurance reform, you would probably be surprised at how many other things we would be able to find common ground on.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said something to the effect that as long as two people were operating from an underlying contempt for each other, progress and/or understanding is not possible. I would say that I have observed Obama reaching out time and again to the Right, but because they have such contempt for him, his bipartisan efforts are going nowhere.

The Right, I daresay, needs to "grow up" a little bit and try having an adult conversation. If not, the president will just have to get this country back on track without your "help."

Gee, "right wing" malice. Where are all the liberals that were so against this war now, since it appears Obama is ready to go into Iran or North Korea (two of the seven remaining countries left that do not have a Rothschild controlled central bank)?

Where are you now regarding all the money being spent on the War? Oh, I know, collecting your paychecks from the telecom companies that are profiting off it in sunny California.

Where were you when Bush was trampling on the Constitution? Maybe you were speaking out, I have no idea. What I would like to know, if you would be so kind as to give me the lowdown, is how I can start collecting a paycheck from one of these conspiratorial telecom companies of which you speak.

the republicans are offering ideas. the problem is the dems don't want what the repubs want and the repubs don't want what the dems want. now why does that make the repubs evil (no not just wrong but unamerican and selfish and EVIL) and the dems right? (and i am an independent who voted for obama...i am just asking questions...which the last time i looked made me a law abiding patriotic ameican citizen not an unamerican angry mob)

lecia, it has never been that anyone who questions or critiques Obama and his policies is any of those things ... for one, only the rightwingers call people who disagree with them un-American; for some reason, people who are either out-right Leftist, or just leaning slightly in that direction don't feel the need to question anybody else's patriotism.Ultimately, it's not even about partisan politics, you don't have to be a Leftie to hate a bloated hypocrite like Rush Limbaugh or a wingnut loudmouth like Tom Delay.Surely even you will admit that attacks such as the phony birthers scam was nothing more than dishonest misdirection, meant only to keep the Obama supporters off balance as the power-starved Republicans try to rally their tattered and demoralized ranks for more assaults against any and everything Mr. Obama attempts to achieve.And, as far as angry mobs are concerned, the only ones I see on the horizon are the rightists bearing semi-automatic weapons to public rallies and pretending that that's 'defending their right to bear arms' and NOT to intimidate peaceful citizens who may disagree with them .... if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

eddie i beg to differ with you...anyone who does not follow lock step with obama is called unamerican and racist....do you watch the news? and anyone speaking out at these town halls are part of an "angry mob"....and guns were taken to a couple of town hall meetings and now it is being portrayed as being done at all of them. the "birthers" are a small group of idiots (for lack of a better word) who are being over blown to deflect from the real questions being asked by the AMERICAN PEOPLE....just like the death panel crapand if you believe anything the main stream media tells you then i have a bridge to sell you

I disagree with you. Anybody who supports the Iraq war or thinks that JFK deserved to die is Unamerican. That is the truth, because that war is about oil, not freedom, and JFK WAS COOL.

The public option as written will destroy the insurance industry. It is a nice idea in theory, but what is to stop every business from using it. Soon there will be no more private insurance and then we are all in trouble. The private option is a good idea, however it needs to be limited to individuals and businesses should still be entitled to cover their employees. If businesses are able to use the public option or refuse to insure their employees forcing their employees in to the public auction things will get completely out of control.

Sorry that last line was public option not auction.