Improve the US Economy: Legalize Unauthorized Immigrants
In a report released last week, the Cato Institute calculates the benefits that would flow to the U.S. economy from a comprehensive immigration reform that grants legal status to unauthorized immigrants already living in the United States.
This study explains the implications for the U.S. economy of seven different policies toward illegal labor, ranging from increased enforcement at the border and in the workplace to the legalization of currently unauthorized immigrants and creation of legal channels for future immigrant workers that accommodate actual U.S. labor demand. It analyzes those seven stances using a tool developed for U.S. government commissions and agencies called the U.S. Applied General Equilibrium model. The report concludes that "compared to either border or interior enforcement, a policy of legalization would, over time, raise the incomes of U.S. workers and their families."
A program to grant legal status to unauthorized workers already in the United States, combined with new channels for the arrival of immigrant workers in the future, would increase the productivity of immigrant workers and create more job openings for American workers in higher-skilled occupations. The net result would be economic gains of roughly $180 billion over ten years.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, an enforcement-only approach would shrink the overall economy, reducing opportunities for higher-skilled American workers. The result of this approach is a significant negative impact on the income of U.S. households, netting economic losses of roughly $80 billion over ten years.
The US Congress is currently drafting comprehensive immigration reform proposals. Mary Giovagnoli, Director of the Immigration Policy Center, notes this report's timely relevance: "...the latest CATO report makes the essential point that reforming our broken immigration system by bringing unauthorized workers into our tax system and on the right side of the law will help our economy. Continuing our enforcement-only policies not only neglects the broken system, but will actually cost our economy billions of dollars over the next decade."
Immigrants bring value to America in their roles as workers, taxpayers and consumers. The data demonstrates that, simply from an economic perspective, legalizing the status of unauthorized immigrants is in the best interest of the US citizen.
FOR MORE INFORMATION: Restriction or Legalization? Measuring the Economic Benefits of Immigration Reform by Peter B. Dixon and Maureen T. Rimmer
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CATO has always supported amnesty. George Bush and John McCain supported amnesty, Barack OBama supports amnesty.
Seems Dems support it when the president is Dem and Repubs when the president is republican.
I - on the other hand - believe there is a reason for naturalization and in order for anyone to become a citizen - I'd like to see the law followed and not allowed to be pushed aside for ANY reason - economic or political.
Thanks for the article!
Seems Dems support it when the president is Dem and Repubs when the president is republican.
I - on the other hand - believe there is a reason for naturalization and in order for anyone to become a citizen - I'd like to see the law followed and not allowed to be pushed aside for ANY reason - economic or political.
Thanks for the article!
McCain and Bush support it for their campaign contributors in the construction and development fields, and also casino industry which hires them - which is why Harry Reid is also a big illegal immigrant backer. And both parties support it in order to increase their base in the Latino community, since this has been after the Reagan amnesty the largest group of immigrants bar none - whether legal or otherwise.
Both parties would sell out their own mothers for re-election, which is why party platforms and political parties themselves and their agendas have destroyed the very foundations upon which this nation was built, and progressively so to where we are now overrun with foreigners, and Americans are beginning to feel more and more like strangers in a strange land - their own.
Both parties would sell out their own mothers for re-election, which is why party platforms and political parties themselves and their agendas have destroyed the very foundations upon which this nation was built, and progressively so to where we are now overrun with foreigners, and Americans are beginning to feel more and more like strangers in a strange land - their own.
When did legalizing that which is unauthorized ever come from sound judgment? Once you legalize it, then they have the right to push their way up in your society, without regard for others, because they have learned no other way from you. This American government should never be in the business of not holding people accountable for their actions; nor should we claim moral authority based on 'love thy neighbor' or 'stranger' among you. These are moral commands that the people alone have the right to decide for themselves in a country with true liberty. Once the government begins enforcing amnesty it becomes the culprit of restricting the freedom and perfect liberty for its citizens based on the constitution they swore to uphold. When are we going to get a president that doesn't try to tamper with the foundations of American liberty. How can anyone in this country feel safe, if immigrants are infiltrating our borders, among who have been terrorists who have sought and accomplished their murderous plans on Americans. When are we going to start impeaching those who are not looking out for the interests of American citizens, but instead allow foriegn countries to overrun us. And all in the name of economics? How cruel.
legalizing alcohol saved the US millions in enforcement and generated billions in tax revenues. If illegals were able to become citizens, and ten held to to the same standard, of paying taxes, social security, etc, it might make sense. They already collect on social programs, so why not make sure they pay into them as well?
I could probably support some type of amnesty, as long as it wasn't applied as a blanket, and had some method of filtering out immigrants with criminal records, either here on in their homeland, if it was coupled, going forward, with a real, responsible immigration policy that would be enforced strenuously.
I could probably support some type of amnesty, as long as it wasn't applied as a blanket, and had some method of filtering out immigrants with criminal records, either here on in their homeland, if it was coupled, going forward, with a real, responsible immigration policy that would be enforced strenuously.
How many illegals are we talking about? Who draws the line? Or is it like turning on a faucet that no one can shut off? Alcohol is something that individual citizens can choose to use or not use, so legalizing it makes it a moral issue; when its illegal it no longer becomes a public issue in debate, because those that practice it hide it. If you legalize unauthorized immigration it never stops being something you debate, because it remains in the open, always. The only way the debate would ever stop, is if the government lived up to its responsibilites, of keeping its present citizens safe from an ever-increasing influx of foriegn people. I realize America has a long history of recieving immigrants, Chinese, Jewish, Irish....so on and so on; as all European-Americans are obviously immigrants: the only people who can claim they have a natural or legal right to this land are Native Americans and English-Americans. So it appears to be a cultural issue that the government would have to change on, not something in which they could keep doing the same things, because after a long history of this we are still and will always be dealing with the flowing faucet of foriegners, until we shut off the valve, by not legalizing them, but arresting them. Those who are already citizens should expect the same treatment as everyone else. But if you allow anyone to come in and recieve this treatment of citizenship than you devalue the meaning of your citizenship, and ultimately no one wants to come to your country because those who live there no longer care about it either.
Great point Thomas Cooke. I love the new progressive (liberal)term "unauthorized" immigrants. They are ILLEGAL! They BROKE THE LAW! Amnesty was shot down, and it'll be shot down again because REGULAR Americans finally spoke up, just as they did with the port issue, and now with health care. The problem with todays immigrant versus the 20th century immigrant (Ellis Island) is that no one comes here with the notion of assimilating into the American culture. They don't care about our history, learning our language, and obeying our laws, as our grandparents did when they left their homes for this great country 100 years ago. Illegal immigrants do more harm than good, ask any school superintendant or hospital director and they'll tell you why they're bankrupt. The state of California is a perfect example.
The Cato Institute is a libertarian organization, that also does not believe in the minimum wage, and that employers should be able to hire whomever they want, and that there should also be no regulation of work sites job safety or anything else.
Do you check out the organizations also that you quote, or simply swallow their propaganda hook, line and sinker?
Since this country is bankrupt beyond belief, and these untrained and low paid contract workers have been responsible for the loss of jobs for youth, and also many worksite disasters.....and are rebuilding those levees in New Orleans now as we speak under government contractors which will eventuall again break and cost the citizens a bundle - just how much are you paid for most of the half truths and errant information you publish?
Those illegals at this point would be idiots to take up any amnesty, since until those borders are secured, they will simply lose their jobs to the new crop that comes over next month. While, of course, supplementing their incomes with theft in the border states due to the low wages paid to them by those thieves that hire them in order to skirt around the taxes involved in hiring an American.
Our economy could rebound in a second if the tax laws were followed as the founders intended. Let these employers hire the foreigners if they so desire or cannot truly find Americans to do those jobs at a liveable wage. But instead of taking the fruits of Americans labors which was never intended, tax the employers who hire the foreign labor instead - which would also provide parity in the workplace.
Imports and foreign labor was the means of taxation in order to protect American jobs and its economy from foreign competitition.
We are now upside down in Constitutional practice, and the evidence of such treason is now there for all to see. Take a trip to the border states, border explorer, but actually live there for about five years or so rather than simply being a "tourist" and then writing as if you are an "expert," when you really, as is obvious to any longer term border resident, are anything but.
Do you check out the organizations also that you quote, or simply swallow their propaganda hook, line and sinker?
Since this country is bankrupt beyond belief, and these untrained and low paid contract workers have been responsible for the loss of jobs for youth, and also many worksite disasters.....and are rebuilding those levees in New Orleans now as we speak under government contractors which will eventuall again break and cost the citizens a bundle - just how much are you paid for most of the half truths and errant information you publish?
Those illegals at this point would be idiots to take up any amnesty, since until those borders are secured, they will simply lose their jobs to the new crop that comes over next month. While, of course, supplementing their incomes with theft in the border states due to the low wages paid to them by those thieves that hire them in order to skirt around the taxes involved in hiring an American.
Our economy could rebound in a second if the tax laws were followed as the founders intended. Let these employers hire the foreigners if they so desire or cannot truly find Americans to do those jobs at a liveable wage. But instead of taking the fruits of Americans labors which was never intended, tax the employers who hire the foreign labor instead - which would also provide parity in the workplace.
Imports and foreign labor was the means of taxation in order to protect American jobs and its economy from foreign competitition.
We are now upside down in Constitutional practice, and the evidence of such treason is now there for all to see. Take a trip to the border states, border explorer, but actually live there for about five years or so rather than simply being a "tourist" and then writing as if you are an "expert," when you really, as is obvious to any longer term border resident, are anything but.
The manner in which the laws were enforced when I grew up in Arizona years ago resulted in the illegal immigration problem being very minor.
If an illegal immigrant was caught in the commission of a crime, or even a traffic stop, if it was not a "capital" offense or felony, then they were allowed one phone call to their nearest and dearest on the other side of the border in order to pick them up, turned over to the U.S. Marshall's office, and returned. When the Marshall's office had enough for a van or busload, they were all taken back after getting three square meals in the Marshall's lockup.
Soon, they got tired of crossing and being returned and just quit. The drug cartel members proceeds were confiscated, and they also were simply returned - which kept our currency in this country and also kept our dollar sound since less of it was outside U.S. borders.
This worked for literally decades. Until the far left government funded bar members and lawyers wanted a share of those drug proceeds, and then got them deportation hearings and criminal trials for their own greed.
And that is why there is now more crime. They get taxpayer paid lawyers now even if those drug proceeds are not enough, and then are simply released after their sham trials in order to simply be picked up again. And our courts now are becoming a money maker for the states, and also logjammed and not there anymore for the citizens to use due to all these "foreigners" now getting trials.
Read the Preamble. Foreigners have not inherent "rights" under our Constitution unless and until they go through the naturalizaton process. And many of them have no intention of becoming citizens at all, and are simply using the U.S. as a place of commerce - legal or otherwise. And many even after attaining citizenship still identify themselves with Mexico as their home countries.
So what does qualify you to actually write on border issues, Border Explorer. A few trips to the border?
If an illegal immigrant was caught in the commission of a crime, or even a traffic stop, if it was not a "capital" offense or felony, then they were allowed one phone call to their nearest and dearest on the other side of the border in order to pick them up, turned over to the U.S. Marshall's office, and returned. When the Marshall's office had enough for a van or busload, they were all taken back after getting three square meals in the Marshall's lockup.
Soon, they got tired of crossing and being returned and just quit. The drug cartel members proceeds were confiscated, and they also were simply returned - which kept our currency in this country and also kept our dollar sound since less of it was outside U.S. borders.
This worked for literally decades. Until the far left government funded bar members and lawyers wanted a share of those drug proceeds, and then got them deportation hearings and criminal trials for their own greed.
And that is why there is now more crime. They get taxpayer paid lawyers now even if those drug proceeds are not enough, and then are simply released after their sham trials in order to simply be picked up again. And our courts now are becoming a money maker for the states, and also logjammed and not there anymore for the citizens to use due to all these "foreigners" now getting trials.
Read the Preamble. Foreigners have not inherent "rights" under our Constitution unless and until they go through the naturalizaton process. And many of them have no intention of becoming citizens at all, and are simply using the U.S. as a place of commerce - legal or otherwise. And many even after attaining citizenship still identify themselves with Mexico as their home countries.
So what does qualify you to actually write on border issues, Border Explorer. A few trips to the border?
Border Explorer: You are either a flamer, or a paid government blogger for this site under those grant monies in the stimulus for the telecom and Silicon Valley. Can't determine which. But you truly do have an agenda here, there's for sure, and not simply a "citizen" journalist.
THIS IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I READ:
the IPC has released a wide-ranging review of academic and government data that shows what legalizing undocumented immigrants would mean for the U.S. economy. The data helps confirm today's overwhelming conclusion that comprehensive immigration reform which includes a path to legalization for undocumented immigrants would pay for itself in the form of increased wages, buying power, and tax contributions that would benefit all working people.
In addition to reducing the exorbitant cost associated with an "enforcement-only" approach to immigration, legalizing undocumented workers would eliminate the "trap door" that artificially suppresses wages and allow workers to compete fairly for the first time. Labor leader Esther Lopez (United Food and Commercial Workers Union) confirmed: "Comprehensive immigration reform is the only way we can level the playing field for all workers. By bringing people out of the shadows and by having legalization be part of a broader immigration reform, we can create an immigration system that works for the American worker. We can't, in this economy, leave 12 million undocumented workers out in the shadows."
the IPC has released a wide-ranging review of academic and government data that shows what legalizing undocumented immigrants would mean for the U.S. economy. The data helps confirm today's overwhelming conclusion that comprehensive immigration reform which includes a path to legalization for undocumented immigrants would pay for itself in the form of increased wages, buying power, and tax contributions that would benefit all working people.
In addition to reducing the exorbitant cost associated with an "enforcement-only" approach to immigration, legalizing undocumented workers would eliminate the "trap door" that artificially suppresses wages and allow workers to compete fairly for the first time. Labor leader Esther Lopez (United Food and Commercial Workers Union) confirmed: "Comprehensive immigration reform is the only way we can level the playing field for all workers. By bringing people out of the shadows and by having legalization be part of a broader immigration reform, we can create an immigration system that works for the American worker. We can't, in this economy, leave 12 million undocumented workers out in the shadows."
Great one Border Explorer. Isn't it interesting that Ross 1776 who's always talking about returning to the policies of the Founding Fathers is opposed to your proposal to return to the immigration policies of the Founding Fathers - no restriction on immigration and open borders. The policies that made this country the richest and most powerful nation on Earth. Imagine how much taxpayers' money we could save by shutting down ICE. The only people who will benefit from closed borders will be gangsters and corrupt officials who will be making a fortune bringing in illegal immigrants and exploiting them.
We shouldn't be using historical context in the place of historical documents. Obviously the times have changed and we are much more diverse now, but that still does not give the government the right to make these decisions for us. The constitution provides rights for citizens it does not provide a right for the whole world to become citizens.
There are always two sides to the story. We should not be rewarding anyone for breaking our laws. Like it or not, illegal immigration into this country is still a crime. Please read the other side of the story:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm2451.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm2451.cfm
While I agree with you in principle, I think it's unreasonable to think we'd ever be able to round up all or even most of the present illegal population, so pragmatism demands another solution.
If some form of amnesty can be combined with better and more stringent border control, I think that may, in the end, be the solution we must pursue.
If some form of amnesty can be combined with better and more stringent border control, I think that may, in the end, be the solution we must pursue.
I can round up at least half by myself. They're so out in the open it's ridiculous; drive by any Home Depot at 6am.
Well, you're just assuming that the latino's you see in front of Home Depot aren't legal. How would you know for sure? Even if it's true it's a prejudiced assumption. Do you think every latino you see is illegal? Your statement is not only disturbing but it disgusts me.
*lol* It's not that I don't sympathize with you; the problem that the logistics of moving between 12 and 20 million people anywhere they don't want to go, is pretty overwhelming...
So let me get this straight. The more people you have eating from the same pie, the more pie all the people will get? Why doesn't my paycheck work that way?
"legalizing alcohol saved the US millions in enforcement and generated billions in tax revenues."
Yeah but whats the cost in lost of life, medical bills, drunk driving arrest, etc. Seems hardly worth it.
"legalizing alcohol saved the US millions in enforcement and generated billions in tax revenues."
Yeah but whats the cost in lost of life, medical bills, drunk driving arrest, etc. Seems hardly worth it.
If you look at the number of jobs that were generated, the tax revenue that was generated, it more than compensated for any negative effects related to stupid people doing what they'd do anyway.
When I encountered this new report from the Cato Institute, I thought it was particularly relevant to the U.S. as we begin to formulate comprehensive immigration reform during an economic downturn. Opposed to the concept of free trade, I am no ally of the Cato Institute. Nevertheless, the report by Dixon and Rimmer appeared to me to be both sound and original.
In considering immigration reform, the economic factor is not the only-not is it the best-criterion. However, it is one important factor to consider in any major decision.
This particular post is a news report about the new document that I cited and linked to and is not a personal opinion post. My own personal conviction is that our present immigration system is badly broken and needs major reform. The Cato report analyzes seven options and determines that one of them has great economic advantages. That is good information to have as the US makes decisions.
The concept of immigration amnesty cuts across political parties as Write4Life suggests. Ross1776 refers to the Immigration Reform and Control Act that Ronald Reagan signed in 1986 which gave amnesty to unauthorized immigrants. I had mixed feelings about that at that time. I haven't made decisions about specific immigration reform strategies yet. Others among the commenters have already ruled out particular options. As Changez says: "They are called opinions and everyone has a right to them."
Because it is essential to "consider the source" in any internet information, I want to be very clear that no person or group suggests or controls my Allvoices reports. My profile page goes beyond some bloggers/citizen journalists in its transparency as a way I try to take responsibility for my words. When I express opinion, it is my personal opinion and mine alone. I customarily reserve my opinions for comments rather than reports.
Immigration and the economy are issues that affect the entire nation, not merely the US-Mexico border. However, if any particular reader does not find me qualified as a citizen journalist, s/he may simply decide to read other contributors in lieu of my reports. We're free to read what we choose here.
I appreciate the trust of Allvoices readers who read my work. I try to make posts worth your time. Special thanks to those readers who write pertinent comments, whether pro or con. We need all voices because no one of us has a monopoly on the truth.
In considering immigration reform, the economic factor is not the only-not is it the best-criterion. However, it is one important factor to consider in any major decision.
This particular post is a news report about the new document that I cited and linked to and is not a personal opinion post. My own personal conviction is that our present immigration system is badly broken and needs major reform. The Cato report analyzes seven options and determines that one of them has great economic advantages. That is good information to have as the US makes decisions.
The concept of immigration amnesty cuts across political parties as Write4Life suggests. Ross1776 refers to the Immigration Reform and Control Act that Ronald Reagan signed in 1986 which gave amnesty to unauthorized immigrants. I had mixed feelings about that at that time. I haven't made decisions about specific immigration reform strategies yet. Others among the commenters have already ruled out particular options. As Changez says: "They are called opinions and everyone has a right to them."
Because it is essential to "consider the source" in any internet information, I want to be very clear that no person or group suggests or controls my Allvoices reports. My profile page goes beyond some bloggers/citizen journalists in its transparency as a way I try to take responsibility for my words. When I express opinion, it is my personal opinion and mine alone. I customarily reserve my opinions for comments rather than reports.
Immigration and the economy are issues that affect the entire nation, not merely the US-Mexico border. However, if any particular reader does not find me qualified as a citizen journalist, s/he may simply decide to read other contributors in lieu of my reports. We're free to read what we choose here.
I appreciate the trust of Allvoices readers who read my work. I try to make posts worth your time. Special thanks to those readers who write pertinent comments, whether pro or con. We need all voices because no one of us has a monopoly on the truth.
Paragraph 2 should read:
"In considering immigration reform, the economic factor is not the only--nor is it the best--criterion. However, it is one important factor to consider in any major decision."
(P.S. Thanks for reading this very long comment!)
"In considering immigration reform, the economic factor is not the only--nor is it the best--criterion. However, it is one important factor to consider in any major decision."
(P.S. Thanks for reading this very long comment!)
You know, with all these pushes to legalize immigrants already living ILLEGALLY within the United States It makes me wonder where these peoples brains are....
Why should we NOT deport them when they, quite obviously, Have broken the law? Should we just give every killer, thief and molester the same rights? Oh they broke the law, but you know what? They could bring our economy up, lets just let them go. Oh in fact, Lets make this whole little mess go away. **BAM** Anarchy... People who used to believe in our system gone astray because the people in charge forget that we have laws, and the LAWS are in place for a reason. PLEASE for the love of all that is holy, stop trying to bypass the laws, make them follow our rules, make them go through our process. Don't just GIVE them the legal right to be here. Its a privilege to be an American. One that Im DAMN proud of. But, lately, my thoughts of our great country seem to be slipping.... I fear the worst is yet to come, and its going to be a painfully agonizing reality if some people get their way.
Why should we NOT deport them when they, quite obviously, Have broken the law? Should we just give every killer, thief and molester the same rights? Oh they broke the law, but you know what? They could bring our economy up, lets just let them go. Oh in fact, Lets make this whole little mess go away. **BAM** Anarchy... People who used to believe in our system gone astray because the people in charge forget that we have laws, and the LAWS are in place for a reason. PLEASE for the love of all that is holy, stop trying to bypass the laws, make them follow our rules, make them go through our process. Don't just GIVE them the legal right to be here. Its a privilege to be an American. One that Im DAMN proud of. But, lately, my thoughts of our great country seem to be slipping.... I fear the worst is yet to come, and its going to be a painfully agonizing reality if some people get their way.
it's pretty difficult to deport between 12 and 20 million people... there has to be a better way.
You know, with all these pushes to legalize immigrants already living ILLEGALLY within the United States It makes me wonder where these peoples brains are....
Why should we NOT deport them when they, quite obviously, Have broken the law? Should we just give every killer, thief and molester the same rights? Oh they broke the law, but you know what? They could bring our economy up, lets just let them go. Oh in fact, Lets make this whole little mess go away. **BAM** Anarchy... People who used to believe in our system gone astray because the people in charge forget that we have laws, and the LAWS are in place for a reason. PLEASE for the love of all that is holy, stop trying to bypass the laws, make them follow our rules, make them go through our process. Don't just GIVE them the legal right to be here. Its a privilege to be an American. One that Im DAMN proud of. But, lately, my thoughts of our great country seem to be slipping.... I fear the worst is yet to come, and its going to be a painfully agonizing reality if some people get their way.
Why should we NOT deport them when they, quite obviously, Have broken the law? Should we just give every killer, thief and molester the same rights? Oh they broke the law, but you know what? They could bring our economy up, lets just let them go. Oh in fact, Lets make this whole little mess go away. **BAM** Anarchy... People who used to believe in our system gone astray because the people in charge forget that we have laws, and the LAWS are in place for a reason. PLEASE for the love of all that is holy, stop trying to bypass the laws, make them follow our rules, make them go through our process. Don't just GIVE them the legal right to be here. Its a privilege to be an American. One that Im DAMN proud of. But, lately, my thoughts of our great country seem to be slipping.... I fear the worst is yet to come, and its going to be a painfully agonizing reality if some people get their way.
Poor border explorer. God forbid you post a blog about a study someone else did. People are so filled with hatred for foreigners that they can't see anything but red. So let me fuel the fire. Lyrics from a local San Diego band, The B Side Players. I love this sh*t!
My people, they jump the fence...
And created a culture of resistance...
And I know they hate us, the way they play us on tv...
Always looting and rioting, always stealing and fighting...
I know they hate us, they quick us out of our own country..
With the authority of police brutality...
And I know they hate us cause...
Our foods DELICIOUS and our women are PRECIOUS...
And they can build them walls, build them up to the sky...
Operation Gate keeper, cross the line and die...
And they can build them walls, build them up to the sky...
Cause we'll go over, under, off to the side!
My people, they jump the fence...
And created a culture of resistance...
And I know they hate us, the way they play us on tv...
Always looting and rioting, always stealing and fighting...
I know they hate us, they quick us out of our own country..
With the authority of police brutality...
And I know they hate us cause...
Our foods DELICIOUS and our women are PRECIOUS...
And they can build them walls, build them up to the sky...
Operation Gate keeper, cross the line and die...
And they can build them walls, build them up to the sky...
Cause we'll go over, under, off to the side!
Something else for Ross1776 and company to think about the Constitution doesn't mention anything about illegal or legal immigrants. Nowhere in the Constituion does it say these rights do not apply to those who haven't taken a citizen ship test or oath. The whole illegal/legal immigrant status is another excuse for bureaucrats to trample our rights and stuff their pockets with our tax dollars. The whole concept of illegal immigrants is unconstitutional period. The only way you could constitutionally have the kind of roundups Ross wants would be to ammend the Constitution to allow it. When they did those kind of roundups years ago it was unconstitutional.
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