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Why John Bolton is dead wrong about the Clinton trip to North Korea

Decatur : GA : USA | Aug 05, 2009 at 6:14 PM PDT
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Former UN Ambassador (during Bush-43's administration) John Bolton has become ubiquitous over the last few days once it became apparent that former President Clinton was on his way to Pyongyang to meet with Kim Jong-il for the purpose of securing the release of the two imprisoned American journalists who were sentenced by a North Korean court - I've never used the term more loosely - to twelve years of hard labor. He has been making the case on any network that will take him, including NPR, that the spectacle of a former American president going to North Korea provides a valuable propaganda victory for that country. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Countries - particularly authoritarian ones - use propaganda to affect two audiences: the domestic one and the foreign one. With regard to the first audience, Kim Jong-il and his regime have maintained complete and absolute control over its people for decades. There is nothing they can do to increase their control domestically as it is already absolute. The people's attitude and subservience to the Dear Leader will be the same tomorrow as it was yesterday. Perhaps their bellies will not be as full but their relationship to the state and loyalty and submission to the country's sovereign will not change at all. Most of its citizens cannot remember a time before this regime, led by the current leader's father, took power. Their world view has been shaped by the propaganda and education they receive in their country and the fact that Bill Clinton met with the Dear Leader, while reaffirming Kim Jong-il's stature, will not augment it in any fashion.

On the foreign front, I doubt there will be any shift either. All countries of the world, including China, South Korea, Japan, Russia and even Myanmar understand the total control Kim Jong-il wields, and more pertinently, the Orwellian nature of his propaganda. No country in the world will take his word over that of the United States. They understand the fictional quality of Kim Jong-il's rhetoric.

Now there was a time before the end of the Cold War where it could be legitimately asserted that such an event would constitute a propaganda coup. Countries such as East Germany, Cuba and the Soviet Union joined North Korea in sincerely attempting to influence foreign opinion with a view toward convincing those not in their sphere to become part of it. Those days are now long gone and John Bolton has not adjusted to it.

Yes, there are countries that might seek to leverage the capture of Americans for a high ransom. But those countries would have done so the day before yesterday as they would today. Roxana Saberi, the Iranian-American journalist was released from Iranian custody earlier this year. While the less stable situation in Iran may make the release of the recently-abducted hikers in Iran more complicated, there is no reason to presume that Clinton's trip to Pyongyang itself will force a higher price for their release.

North Korea did not win a propaganda victory yesterday because no one, not even the most horrific regimes (Zimbabwe or Myanmar), believe any of the rhetoric coming from North Korean officials. Propaganda is only effective to the extent it has the capacity to influence public opinion. That day has long since passed with respect to North Korea although John Bolton, who still thinks it is 1983, has not recognized that yet.

jongold is based in Decatur, Georgia, United States of America, and is a Stringer for Allvoices.
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Posted By jongleur Mick Jerome | almost 3 years ago
jongold, Great story and I sincerely appreciate your keen perspectives. John Bolton has done a fatal disservice to this country during his roles in the corrupt Reagan, Bush Sr., and Baby Bush administrations, where he spun countless mistruths about Iraq's purported weapons of mass destruction, the Iran-Contra (sell drugs for arms) affair, Iraq's alleged purchase of nuclear material from Niger, Cuba's contrived biological weapons program, et al. His credibility is as solid as a piece of toilet paper and he should have been flushed into the sewers decades ago. Excellent article, jongold!
- jongleur
Reply By jongold jongold | almost 3 years ago
I only heard of him during the last Bush administration. I am not surprised that he disserved the country before that as well but I guess it should not be a surprise to anyone.
Posted By allknower allknower | almost 3 years ago
What a wonderful insight. It is high time that John should be tried for how he misrepresented truths infront of the public about Weapons of Mass destruction .. Iraq etc.
Reply By jongold jongold | almost 3 years ago
Clinton should've traded him for the two women.
Posted By motormouth motormouth | almost 3 years ago
He might be wrong about North Korea, but that dude has an awesome mustache!
Posted By JerrySatire JerrySatire | almost 3 years ago
Thank you. I hope you understand that Fox News will never ask you to appear on their station. [:-0
JerrySatire
www.Lampoon.net
Reply By jongold jongold | almost 3 years ago
I already surmised that. I wouldn't want to be around that crew 'though I'd relish a debate with Hannity who is too chicken to get in such situations
Posted By northsunm32 northsunm32 | almost 3 years ago
Certainly the fact the former president Clinton took the trouble to go to North Korea is in a sense a positive outcome for Kim Jong-il because he has always desired more recognition from the U.S. and direct negotiation with the U.S. on nuclear issues. He also may be signaling that he wants to start negotiations again after having one of his usual flareups and rhetorical fireworks stages the past while.
I expect that there actually is quite a bit of dissent in North Korea but for obvious reasons it is not exhibited in the way it would be in countries with more freedoms.
John Bolton is of course an unrepentant hardline neo-con about most everything! But he is correct that Kim Jong-il does get some positive consequences from the release of the journalists but the positive aspects may also be positive for prospects of negotiatons. Did he expect that Kim would release the two without any benefits for him?
I expect that Bolton would be happy if the two stayed in a North Korean jail and served their sentence at hard labour since that would confirm North Korea as an axis of evil and a country not to be negotiated with or talked to just to be further threatened.
Reply By jongold jongold | almost 3 years ago
Kim Jong-il deserves credit for doing the humanitarian thing. That doesn't mean we leave the women there. That would be, at a minimum, petty and more significantly, horrendous on our part.
Posted By amra1 Amra Tareen | almost 3 years ago
To me Clinton taking time to get the two girls was a signal to the world that US cares about it's citizens. It was Clinton who went not Obama and Clinton is not making any decisions regarding foreign policy any more!

It Clinton's trip is great optics for the rest of the world
Reply By jongold jongold | almost 3 years ago
Exactly, a point well made by VP Gore yesterday. I think the rest of the world has more respect for us now, not less, and if Jong-il is happy he met Clinton so be it. It does not hurt our interests at all. Another allvoices writer, instgtr, seems to disagree with me on this.
Reply By amra1 Amra Tareen | almost 3 years ago
hey it is good too have all voices :-)
Reply By jongold jongold | almost 3 years ago
Oh I am a big fan of debate so long as it is based on facts and sound reasoning. Having not read all of his (or her) piece yet (only the headline), I am not yet in a position to have an opinion.
Posted By FauziaSultana FauziaSultana | almost 3 years ago
He must be happy and will die in peace for doing ONE good turn in the recent present;uniting families and bringing happiness to them and to all around.
Posted By sweetsana sweetsana | about 1 year ago
thanks for sharing rated up
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