Can't Pay Your Bills? Call Obama - He Promised He'd Change Everything...

I sure as hell didn't vote for him. I voted for the only candidate that was and IS still making sense. Too bad the media black-balled Ron Paul during the debates because he knows what the source problems are and would have given his best to amend them.

As for change... we had better find a way to get him out before his finishes this term... as soon as possible would be ideal. The man is a treasonous bastard.

Good point. Ron Paul is a cool guy.

Amen to the last part of that. I'm not so sure about the first.

Amen!

Yes, I fell for Ron Paul too for a short time since he was the ONLY candidate that seem to acknowledge the Constitution at all. Until his now "Audit the Fed" bill started. Since Congress created the Fed, why in the world would you need a formal "bill" to audit an entity that Congress created?

Seems he is just another distraction for those that had had it with the mainstream Republicans and Democrats. And I believe with his "legalize" drugs stands (not pot, but the other hard core ones he has spoken about) that he is supported by the pharmaceutical industry most of all. They would love another "free trade" agreement with the drug cartels, so they can make a profit off the packaging.

So Ron Paul to me is just another of the stage actors on the Hill, since he also has been rather mum on the Violent Radicalization Act that the House passed overwhelmingly (while he, conveniently, was on vacation so he could pretend outrage).

And seems his C4L site is just another "liberty as commerce" site with all the fees and monies involved in their "seminars" and "conventions."

"Yes, I fell for Ron Paul too for a short time since he was the ONLY candidate that seem to acknowledge the Constitution at all. Until his now "Audit the Fed" bill started. Since Congress created the Fed, why in the world would you need a formal "bill" to audit an entity that Congress created?"

Because,
a) there is no provision in the Federal Reserve Act to audit the Fed and
b) the Fed is a PRIVATE cartel of banks.

Ron Paul knows the score; legalizing drugs we can't control any way would save literally billions of dollars that could be spent on things like free government sponsored drug/alcohol rehabilitation, or even assist the funding of scaled down national health care that would provide a safety net for the uninsured, but leave the rest of the industry alone.

Come now Curious - Tell us how you REALLY Feel...

Obama works for the bankers. Just as Bush did. Why do you think he's been on all these road trips pushing the stimulus, his foreclosure "rescue" and encouraging people to take out loans and "go back to school."

He works for the Fed. As they all do. That's who writes their paychecks, after all.

looks like you people are not willing to give him anymore time ! :)

Why should he be given more time. So far he has refused to prove that he is the legitimate President of the United States.

He was elected. You guys didn't even blink when Bush was in power the first year, and suddenly this guys is supposed to save the world in 6 months. Let him set himself up for the push, as I think he is, and then let's see.

Set himself up for the push? Which push would that be. The country is going into bankruptcy and he is doing nothing to help prevent it. His policies are making things worse not better. The Federal Reserve says not only are we not recovering there will be "NO new net jobs in he next 5 years." He is planning to put small businesses, who provide roughly 3/4 of the jobs in this country, out of business. Yeah, lets give him time to set himself up for the push. First he might want to prove he is entitled to the job by meeting the legal requirements for it. Nah! That would be to American.

I think Vic is referring to the lack of a birth certificate proving he's eligible to be president - if he's got one, he could put an end to that "problem" by simply showing it...

Got in one.

The Constitution of the United States says that to be President a person must be born in the United States. So far Obama has failed to provide evidence that he meets that criteria. So what if he was elected? Unfortunately, when the Constitution was being written no one could conceive of someone doing what he has done and no mechanism was put in place to remove the bounder. I guess that means that legit or not we are stuck with him. To bad, USA.

So your argument is that, you don't know if he was born in the U.S.? I mean, find out if you're that concerned. I 'm sure there are records somewhere, and if you're right, then it'll be the biggest story of the century so far. I'm sure he got it down before though.

Actually, he has presented no legally acceptable birth documentation and his grandmother was quoted as saying he was born in Africa. I'm sure there are no records showing a legitimate US birth or he would have submitted them. He was allegedly born in Hawaii but has no Hawaiian Birth Certificate to back that claim. The "story" has been around since before the election but has been largely ignored by the mainstream press who can't get their noses brown enough.

Then it's up to people who have a stake, like you, to find out. If you're not willing to do it then you can't complain about the press. That is the whole point of citizenship. And documents etc. are all easy to find and look up in the States. I'm sure if you found something you'd be a national hero.

Let the guy breathe people!

Ridiculous piece. And, no--Obama is not "having his people check into changing the term limits for the presidency." And you cite for this....exactly whom?

Total hackery.

Don't need to "cite" anyone - it's called H.J. Res 5 - proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the U.S. to repeal the 22nd amendment... (which sets term limits for the president...)

This was proposed by one of Obama's Democrat buddies in January (amazing timing isn't it???)

Deny it all you want - call me a hack - then close your eyes (again) to what's going on...

btw - I didn't post a link to information on this because I don't want anyone saying I directed them to a specific site - all you have to do is google "H.J. Res 5" - then take your pick...

The 22nd Amendment was passed after Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to 4 consecutive terms. It was passed to prevent such a thing from happening again. I understand that the effort to supplant it has taken place several times in the past. I hope it meets with no better success this time. Two terms of anybody is about all we can stand.

Before two terms would become an issue for Obama he would need to manage to get reelected. And for there to still have a viable country of which to be President. If things keep on as they are going it won't make any difference who the President is as we will not be the country we are now, if we even still exist as an entity.

I don't see what that has to do with anything. The US has been heading towards state capitalism and police state since Reagan. It's a simple matter of seeing the trend.

I was replying to "Johnny Russia"s, comment:

"Ridiculous piece. And, no--Obama is not "having his people check into changing the term limits for the presidency." And you cite for this....exactly whom?

Total hackery."

Obama doesn't like the fact that he can only stay in office for 8 years, so he's got his buddies working to "legally" change the laws so he can stay there as long as he wants...

I'm sure Johhny Russia will still say this is a "ridiculous piece" but I don't think the people who are suffering would agree...

bingo.

Dear Changez, how do you find evidence of citizenship for a person who is not a citizen?

Find evidence that he's not.

Obama wasn't born in Hawaii & the AMA supports National health care. LOL. Nice try, but Hawaii has the birth certificate and they made it available to the media. I continue to support Obama on all social issues. I do not support him on Afghanistan. We need to come home, ASAP.
JerrySatire
www.Lampoon.net

The birth certificate that was made available was absolutely genuine; the problem is that any child which is brought into Hawaii in the first year of their birth, regardless of where they were actually born, can get the same certificate, so even though it's "genuine" it proves absolutely nothing, and without a legitimate birth certificate showing a US birth, Obama isn't eligible for US citizenship, because it was impossible for his mother to meet the requirement of 5 years of continuous residency in the US after her 14th birthday (he was born when she was 18).

No birth certificate, no citizen...

In October Hawaii state officials confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Get it, LIVE BIRTH !!! OF course, birthers change their story 7 days a week. [:-[
JerrySatire@aol.com
www.Lampoon.net

I've never changed my story... I'm not a "birther", I'm just curious and concerned...

No, he does not have a Birth Certificate from Hawaii, he has a certificate of Live Birth, which, according to Hawaiian officials is a different kettle of fish. It is not even acceptable for getting a driver's license. I wish you great luck if you ever lose your job as, according to the Fed there are going to be few available in the next 5 years due to Obama policies.

Vicgreen you are a "birther," so nobody can take you seriously.

Read this from James Rainey in the L.A. Times, and get some facts:

Lou Dobbs had David from Freeport, N.Y., on the line, the caller musing darkly about President Obama "rushing all these programs through by whatever means," knowing he will soon be exposed as a fake, a fraud, a . . . Kenyan.

At that point, a scrupulous radio host had three options: (A) hit the kill button (B) laugh and hit the kill button or (C) offer some push-back against the fantastical notion that Barack Obama was born on foreign soil and thus serves -- illegally -- as the Oval Office's first resident alien.

Instead, Dobbs chose the maximum complicity-minimum integrity route, or (D): "Certainly your view can't be discounted," the host said.

So it went over the last week, with the bloviating interviewer offering the (nominal) credibility of his syndicated radio show, which airs on dozens of stations, and the CNN television brand as a platform for assorted wing nuts, whose conspiracy fulminations about Obamahad previously been most virulent in the more disreputable reaches of the Internet.

The subject fits neatly with Dobbs' nativist, immigrant obsession. And the cable demagogue, already well behind Fox News, has got to find some way to keep from sagging behind even traditional cable television laggard MSNBC.

Cooler heads at CNN put some distance between themselves and their once star host, with fill-in Kitty Pilgrim using a segment of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on Friday to provide a substantially more skeptical look at the Obama-made-in-Africa claims.

Pilgrim introduced the topic of Obama's alleged foreign birth as she sat in for Dobbs that night, calling it "the discredited rumor that won't go away."

"CNN has fully investigated the issue," the substitute said, and "found no basis for the questions about the president's birthplace."

When the issue first surfaced in the presidential campaign last summer, numerous credible news organizations and even the Hawaii Department of Health presented clear evidence that Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu.

But those reports have done little to snuff out elaborate and ever-mutating conspiracy theories.

I often hear from disgruntled readers that they don't pay attention to the dread "Mainstream Media" because they can find "the truth" on the Internet. Translation: Some blogger will please them by propping up just about any cockeyed theory that they hold.

The Internet agitators, in turn, get support and sustenance from mainstream provocateurs like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, who last month chortled, "God does not have a birth certificate, and neither does Obama -- not that we've seen."

Dobbs and the others found a nominal "news" peg for the story last week when the U.S. Army allowed a reserve major, Stefan F. Cook, to reverse his voluntary deployment to Afghanistan. Cook proclaimed his orders invalid because, he insisted, his commander in chief wasn't born in the U.S.

Never mind that the good major appears in this instance to be more agent provocateur than man of arms or that he is represented by Orly Taitz, an Orange County attorney (and dentist) who has made it her life's work to prove Obama isn't one of us.

Dobbs welcomed Taitz and another of her clients, Alan Keyes (who was crushed by Obama in their Illinois U.S. Senate race), to his radio program like seers instead of extreme partisans. Dobbs suggested he had reached no conclusions, before barreling ahead with questions about why Obama hasn't produced "his birth certificate, the long form, the real deal."

But Obama has presented his birth certificate, as first noted by the nonpartisan FactCheck.org in June of last year.

Rather than settling the matter, though, the Internet display of the "Certification of Live Birth" provoked the first in what has become an endless cycle of challenges and innuendo.

Just last month, the Hawaii Department of Health confirmed to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin that the document is the only official record of the president's birth and proves he was born in that state.

But conspiracy theorists argue that the lack of an underlying paper document (the so-called long-form birth certificate) proves a cover-up.

That ignores multiple truths including this one: Hawaii's records, like those in many states, have gone electronic, and the certification document is accepted by both the state and national government as full proof of citizenship. To insist otherwise is to embrace the notion that thousands upon thousands of Hawaiians have obtained their U.S. passports, using similar documents, fraudulently.
One Internet "proof" of Obama's alien roots truncates a taped interview with his grandmother to make it sound as if she is confirming his birth in Kenya, when the full tape shows she does nothing of the sort.

Another canard asserts that Obama must have been traveling on an Indonesian passport when he went to Pakistan at age 20, because the U.S. had banned travel there. Problem: There was no such travel ban.

To believe the wild theories, one must also accept that Obama's mother -- rather than apply for citizenship for her son as one would expect if he had been born overseas -- launched an elaborate hoax. It would have begun in 1961 with her placing false birth notices in Honolulu's two daily newspapers. Diabolical.

Brooks Jackson, director of Annenberg Political Fact Check (FactCheck.Org) and a reporter with 34 years in the business, has seen one howler after another knocked down, only for another to sprout in its place.

"CNN should be ashamed of itself for putting some of that stuff on the air," said Jackson, who worked at the cable outlet for more than 20 years.

Besides Pilgrim's skin-back report last week, one CNN employee reminded me several times that Dobbs' most pointed assertions were made on his radio program, which is unconnected to CNN.

Jackson has studied the kind of "disordered thinking" exhibited by the foreign-birth gadflies, known collectively as "birthers." His book "unSpun: Finding Facts in a World of Disinformation" -- co-authored with another journalism authority, Kathleen Hall Jamieson -- explored instances in which the public let itself be overtaken by emotion.

Jackson said he saw a bit of this emotional attachment to a conspiracy theory from Democrats who insisted that Sen. John F. Kerry lost the 2004 election only because of voter fraud in Ohio. They kept finding new examples.

Certainly, a good chunk of the American public hasn't armed itself with enough plain information to sniff out the flimflam. Well after this year's presidential inauguration, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that 11% of Americans believed Obama was a Muslim. And 35% weren't sure of his religion.

Republican Rep. Mike Castle of Delaware saw a town hall meeting this month interrupted as a woman, rooted on by a boisterous crowd, angrily demanded to know why nothing was being done to oust the "citizen of Kenya" pretending to be president.

On the even more extreme fringes, such sentiments border on dangerous. James von Brunn, the elderly neo-Nazi who shot and killed a guard last month at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., had posted anti-Obama "birther" theories on the Internet.

Dobbs did not return my call Tuesday. But he did go on the radio and rant about the L.A. Times and the other liberal media that are "subservient and servile to this presidency."

He insisted he believed Obama is a citizen, while continuing to tell listeners "there is no actual birth certificate." He did it because he is a Man of the People. And, as he explained, "the American people want an answer."

Vicgreen,

JohnnyRussia's comment:

"Vicgreen you are a "birther," so nobody can take you seriously."

may hold true for him - but there are a LOT of people who take what you're saying seriously...

I really don't have to tell you this, because what he's doing is standard operating procedure for liberals, but didn't want to sit back and "say nothing" either...

Most of your "changes" were set in motion by the Bush administration. But of course you already know that. The financial instutions' collapse, foreclosures, unemployment, the auto industry. To be fair to Bush I have to admit that the U.S. auto industry has been in decline long before he took office, but the single most important factor to bring down the auto industry is the skyrocketing cost of health insurance of the last ten years.

These problems won't go away by sticking your head in the sand. Eight years of destruction can't be reversed in six months but the country's finally getting back on the right track now.

This article was in response to Obama's claim of being the person to turn the country around and "fix" everything - your claim that:

"...the country's finally getting back on the right track now."

Is something I fully dispute - the country is NOT getting back on the right track - Obama is taking the country for a ride and things are worse than before he took office.

Millions of people are suffering and now he's admitting he was wrong, that it will be a good 5 years before any new jobs are created...

Bush left the economy sliding into ruin, and sliding fast. Obama stopped that slide. If McCain would've been elected we'd still be sliding. All he would've done is give more tax cuts to the rich. Of course that's something we'll never know for sure.

I believe the country's on the road to recovery. I'm not really much of an optimist, but I'm definitely not a pessimist. Look on the bright side. Banks were failing and they weren't lending to ANYONE, not even to other banks. Now they're fairly stable and they've started lending again. The stock market has been steadily climbing for ten weeks now.

We were facing another Great Depression. Nine months ago that was a real possibility. Now it's not.

Jobs are always the last to recover from every recession, but it won't take 5 years. The way things are going, from what I've been hearing most economists say, job loss should continue through this year, at most, then there should a steady growth in employment. I expect things to be looking pretty bright by Spring.

"Obama stopped that slide." That is absurd. Obama has done nothing but put wax on the slope so that the slide is more slippery than ever.

Have you seen the deficit lately? We will never be able to pay the interest, much less the principal down.

Hmmm... "the American people want an answer"!! I don't understand all this debate. What does this tell us all about America?

Let's assume Obama is not American. Then, are we saying that there is not a single American worth his salt capable of becoming the President of USA?

Think about it!

I call Al Franken. Or Ron Paul.

Actually, instgtr, no---there are not "a lot" of people who take the "birther" movement seriously at all. It's just that they (you?) are a tiny but vocal bunch of conspiracy theorists--much like the tiny slice who still don't believe we landed on the moon.

Read the Rainey piece I included above and seriously ask yourself if your conspiracy theory actually began when Obama's birth was announced in the Honolulu paper. It's documented, it's fact, it's irrefutable and this whole thing is utterly insane.

Oh, my goodness... this thread blew up, didn't it?

First of all, to the person who responded that auditing the Fed is not necessary... either you have never read a history book in your life or simply cannot see that the transfer of wealth in this country is going to leave you and your children and their children completely destitute as tax slaves.

The Fed is a private entity which has really nothing at all to do with Congress or the American political/justice system. It's a bank with the power to control the value of money, to print money out of thin air, to hold US liable for the principal and interest, and has absolutely no regulation to speak of. You are right about one thing, it doesn't need to be audited, it needs to be obliterated off the face of the earth.

To the person who called the author of this thread a "hack". Wow. Really? He gave you the lead, I highly recommend you follow it.

The goodies that are hidden in the "health care plan" are also not in your best interest. In fact, some aspects of that plan are downright suicidal for many.

Vox, there are plenty of people in this country who are not only qualified to be President, but would do a bang up job of it. However, between the media having lulled most of the nation into a stupified slumber, a country who is NOT the United States demanded that ALL of our candidates declare their love, protection, and resources to this foreign entity during the debates, and apparently - they meant that their loyalty was to the foreign entity and not the US.

I could care less about his birth certificate.

Lets just say someone showed up at your house because you were trying to sell a few items to pick up a little extra cash. The person then says... okay... give me ALL of your stuff, and then give me ALL of your cash and I will come back later and give you funds that will double your return.

Then they come back in a week and say they need MORE money so they can market the goods, travel to trade shows, of course they'll need living and travel expenses. Not sure what they might end up needing, they ask you for a blank check and one of your higher limit credit cards - just in case.

Then they come back a week later saying that they've spent the money and maxed out the credit card, but need a little more money to push their deal over the top...

You see where this is going? That person will bleed you until there is no money, no goods, no return on the profit.

THAT is what is happening here. It's really that simple.

We've been conned. It's couldn't possibly be the work of Obama or Bernanke or Paulson alone... there has to be more to it for people to be willing to do such horrible math.

Who? I don't know. How many? Who can say.

In the end, America will be finished if people don't wake up.

I don't buy the health care scare tactics. The "downright suicidal" claim is ridiculous.

What's suicidal is the current system.

Really? Let me give you a couple of tidbits that are hidden in the bill...

This part is not my research... but frightening:

And to those dictatorial powers Obama is set to use against the American people, he, and his socialist allies, are preparing one of the most insidious series of new laws meant to totally enslave these peoples without their even knowing what is about to hit them through what is being called H.R. 3200, and is titled “To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes”.

But to the truth of this massive 1,107 page new series of US laws, it is to the “other purposes” that should chill these American people to their very core as these “other purposes” include:

All American citizens being ordered to have a National ID Card (page 58) US government to have immediate access to every American citizens bank accounts (page 59) All property owned by Doctors in the US to be determined by government (page 317) All American citizens ordered to give the US government power of attorney over their living wills (page 425) The US government given a new power to determine who and how their citizens die (page 427) End of Life plan for each American citizen ordered by the government (page 429) US government to decide on who, and who can’t be married (page 489)

Hows that for change?

Think the economy will survive?

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090720-709838.html

And how is this ANY different that the hellish actions of Bush:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jTUXZ57-4A_UnsbDtQDPlUwZlbIQD99J2TQO0

I can't believe no one is rioting. The rest of the world is actually wondering what is wrong with "Stupid Americans" that we've become so pacifist and docile that we refuse to defend against the ruin of the entire country.

Bizzaro-world for sure.

Amish is starting to look good to me

Let me know if you find a nice community... I wanna come. :o)

First of all it doesn't matter where he was born, he is a US citizen because his mother was born in Kansas. The family ended up in Hawaii when his grandfather was stationed at Pearl Harbor.
Secondly, the President cannot change anything other than proclamations WITHOUT the approval of Congress. He cannot pass a law only suggest it and then sign the ones he wants once passed. Just look at the health care issue. And BTW we already have a national health care system...it's called Medicare and Medicaid. Doctor's don't want a system for all because then they couldn't gouge the patients for money.

It matters absolutely where he was born because his mother, due to her age at the time of his birth, was unable to satisfy the legal residency requirement that was in existence at the time Obama was born.

I cannot go so far as to call Obama a "treasonous bastard". Do I like him? No. Do I agree with his methods? No. Do I think his administration is causing harm to the American people? Absolutely. I have yet to see anything treasonous about his actions.

Simply put..He's destroying our country in a legal manner.

As far as his health care package...who cares? Honestly, there is a more dire problem at hand with the economy and unemployment. Obama keeps throwing money in big businesses in order to save them. This makes little sense to me. Businesses are in business to make money not spend it. The only true way to stimulate an economy is to spend money in that economy. So, why give money to businesses that are not there to spend?

Obama also said that if elected the unemployment rate would not exceed 8%. My good people, the unemployment rate is almost up to 10%. Something has to be done quick or people are going to re-invent hoover towns all over again. Already this is considered to be a depression that ranks even greater than that of the "great depression".

See my post above and check out the links before you call his actions legal. Sometimes we have to demand that those who govern, govern with ethics and with soul. Legal is just another world for breaking the law... with loopholes.

Where were all you people during the Bush hyper-paranoia years? That man is part of a long line of people who have decided to systematically enslave the American people through debt, propaganda and distraction. Obama I think would fix tat, except people don't want to see that radical reform is necessary. It's like Plato's allegory of the cave.

Where were all you people during the Bush hyper-paranoia years? That man is part of a long line of people who have decided to systematically enslave the American people through debt, propaganda and distraction. Obama I think would fix tat, except people don't want to see that radical reform is necessary. It's like Plato's allegory of the cave.

CollinCape, 6 months in office didn't "destroy our country." The previous 8 years did that.

The previous hellish 8 years simply passed the baton to the future hellish 8 years.

Americans must respond to this mess and not on message boards.

Its so clear that you didn't vote for him. But I do wonder if Bush had another 2 yrs in office if he'd made progress with the country or if he'd continue on the path Cheney was so 'positively' leading him. In any case, Obama is what we've got and what took ~16 yrs of damage to this country, not to mention the past 4 prominent years to show us how bad of a shape we are in, we can't all expect that in 25 weeks the president is to make everything better so we can feel satisfied and go back to skipping along with no care in the world. Amidst all your judgmental remarks that nothing has been 'changing'...just because you see is doesn't mean it isn't happening. As you not have been feeling the effects going on in your everyday life... WE ARE AT WAR! But of course, why waste typing energy on a dull headed piece (cant imagine the birther) as this!

I won't defend Bush. I didn't have any real issues with his first term but his second term was lethargic at best. The gas and oil industry ran rampant because they knew that Bush would do nothing because he wouldn't "Bite the hand that fed him".

But, I do not think that this country is yet "destroyed". I believe that it can be turned around. To do that we need to get back to being a productive nation. Which means creating jobs and revitalizing the economy.

Let's face it, we as a nation hold the leash on the world economy. When we fail, they fail. When we prosper, they prosper. Currently our government is trying to tackle many problems at once. This is not rocket science, it's basic problem solving. Instead of stretching yourself thin by trying to bite off more than you can chew, try putting the focus on the problems with greater priority.

Well, CollinCope, I agree we can turn this around. I don't believe we are trying to tackle too many problems at once, however.

DC is historically a molasses-slow place, largely because of timidity and general hemming and hawing. We need to act quickly on this economic storm, and if that means Congress working through their summer vacation, so be it.

Obama was elected with a "change" mandate. It's only been 6 months. It took a helluva lot longer to get into this mess than that. It'll take time to dig us out.

Well, CollinCope, I agree we can turn this around. I don't believe we are trying to tackle too many problems at once, however.

DC is historically a molasses-slow place, largely because of timidity and general hemming and hawing. We need to act quickly on this economic storm, and if that means Congress working through their summer vacation, so be it.

Obama was elected with a "change" mandate. It's only been 6 months. It took a helluva lot longer to get into this mess than that. It'll take time to dig us out.

I wish I were even half as optimistic as Johnny on the state of our country, but I suspect that throwing enormous piles of money at the problems will not make those problems go away, especially not at the risk of increasing our national debt to levels from which we can never hope to recover. The average American family has already been learning some very hard lessons about economics and have drastically curbed their spending accordingly. If we as citizens can learn to do without things when money is tight, why can't those buffoons in Washington learn the same thing? Maybe the new campaign slogan for would-be political leaders should be: "It's the SPENDING, Stupid!"

Sadly, far too many have become content to take whatever they are handed without question, believing blindly that the government has their best interests at heart. As long as there are people who willingly let the government assume more and more control over their lives in exchange for assistance of various types, spending levels will increase.

Health care is not "assistance."

I never said it was. But, for the record, I'm no fan of nationalized medicine. As far as I'm concerned, the less the government is involved at all in my life, the happier I am.

Gee Mary - how politically incorrect can you be??? :)

LOL! Very, at times. I'm an equal-opportunity political basher, though - I dislike politicians from both sides of the aisle!

Obama has made certain decisions and a good chunk of the population disagrees with him and thinks he's making things worse. Had McCain won the election and done the complete opposite, the other chunk of the population would be swearing up and down he's making things worse too. I think Obama needs more than 6 months to be weighed on the scale.

Why do you people have faith in obviously bad choices? It it completely beyond my understanding why you believe that putting the country in insurmountable debt is good for the economy. It doesn't make any sense at all... it has never worked, is not working now, and never will.

I'm not in love with Obama, I don't follow him blindly like some people think Obama supporters do. I question his choices just like the people that don't support him. I was simply stating that had McCain won, he would be in the same position even if he had done the complete opposite of what Obama is doing and his supporters would be arguing the same thing "Give the guy time! It's only been 6 months for Christ's sake!" We would be in the same scenario.

Why do you people have faith in obviously bad choices? It it completely beyond my understanding why you believe that putting the country in insurmountable debt is good for the economy. It doesn't make any sense at all... it has never worked, is not working now, and never will.

Why is it that every time a new person takes an office, people expect things to change for the better (at least in their minds) yesterday?

It's not about expecting change for the better "yesterday" it's about avoiding change for the worst today.

Yeah, but isn't trying to fix existing problems by cleaning up the mess left by the last person a part of change?

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There's so much rubbish here and I don't have the time to waste to go line item by line item for people who think Google is God. The following is courtesy of Factcheck.org. "It’s true that New York Rep. Jose Serrano, a Democrat, introduced a bill (H.J.RES.5) on Jan. 6, when Congress opened, proposing the repeal of the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which limits presidents to two terms. Repealing that amendment would require ratification by three-fourths of the states.The bill was referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties and is sitting there now. It has no cosponsors.Serrano introduced or cosponsored the same proposal in 1997 and 1999, when Democrat Bill Clinton was president, and again in 2001 just days before Republican George Bush was sworn in for his first term. He also introduced it in 2003, 2005 and 2007, all before Barack Obama even announced he was running for president.All of these bills died in committee without ever coming to a vote. None of Serrano’s bills attracted any cosponsors, except for the 1997 and 1999 versions, each of which was cosponsored by Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut, a Republican.Furthermore, when we asked Rep. Serrano about this, he stated in an e-mail message to us that the White House was not supporting his measure or offering him any advice about it.Rep. Serrano, June 15: I introduce it [the repeal bill] as a matter of principle: I do not believe there should be term limits for any elected official. Elections should be the deciding factor. I do not receive advice or support on this bill from the White House or any other source." Should put to bed any paranoia about a "King Obama", at least to anyone still sporting a cerebrum.

Hey Stinkey...I think you need to read the original post - you're "barking up the wrong tree..." here.If you want to support a losing candidate, that's your perogative (his "approval" rating was down to 45% last I checked)This post had nothing to do with H.J. Res 5...

Truth, Justice and the Republican Way............ "Obama was born in Kenya and waterboarding is not torture." [:-0 JerrySatire www.Lampoon.net

Who said water boarding isn't torture? Not me...

ummm...........I believe Dick Cheney said waterboarding is not torture. Hello?JerrySatirewww.Lampoon.net

But not me... I'm not Dick Cheney... I swear...*LOL*

Hey Instgtr..."Obama is having his people check into changing the term limits for the presidency - another interesting change... (eight years might not be long enough to make "all" those changes he's thinking about...)" This statement has everything to do with HJ Res 5. Maybe YOU need to re-read the original post. I selected this as an example of the misinformation that Republicans always resort to in their weak attempts to shift the blame from Bushdick to Obama. Before Obama took office the economy was shedding 750,000 jobs a month. That's now dropped to somewhere around 280,000 as of July. The stock market was in a freefall when Obama took office had fallen to the mid 6000's by March. It's now rebounded almost 50%, greatly improving the condition of those retirement accounts and 401k's that the author refers to. Auto manufacturers can't blame their problems on Obama's policies, and the housing market's fate was sealed long before Obama arrived on the scene. Medicare? Imagine a private insurance company that insures only people over 65 and individuals with pre-existing medical conditions and disabilities. Isn't going to happen because they'd lose money. As for opening the borders? WTF?Losing candidate? Approval ratings always fall after the hype of the election is over and reality sets in, especially when the reality is a somber one. Still, Obamas approval rating is double that of Bush's when he left office.6 months and you people think that's enough time to turn this mess around? Sounds like you were expecting a God..

Hey Stinkletoes, My mistake - I was thinking you were replying to a different post: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/3737268-is-obama-planning-on-more-than-8-years (but somehow got the comment placed here instead...) - my bad...

What? Is there another post that's more assailable than this one? Not to be mean, but if the original post were a pastrami sandwich, someone forgot the meat.

Yeah - both of these articles were written back when I first started with Allvoices - I've found I like doing Technology articles and don't really do much with Politics anymore...Political articles obviously give you more views - but writing about something I enjoy is a hell of a lot more satisfying...