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Baghdad : Iraq | 4 months ago  
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  • Mission repulsed
    Mission repulsed
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    Mission repulsed
  • Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
    Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
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    Protest of the Iraq invasion - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
  • Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
    Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
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    Protest of the Iraq invasion - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
  • Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
    Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
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    Protest of the Iraq invasion - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
  • Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
    Iraq Invasion Protest - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
    Posted by: jongleur
    Protest of the Iraq invasion - San Francisco, March 20, 2003
Mission repulsed

I see more and more as our leaving the cities got closer what I saw as a fact the day the idiot ignored all good advice against attacking Iraq and that is an all out war Sunni against Shiite and don't forget the Kurd's and other sects then spreading throughout the middle east. Iraq got its sovereignty back and a day ahead of time. Now we will see how bad if at all they really want Democracy and equality. They may want Democracy but with Sunni or Shiite dominating and that is the problem that will not go away.

More than 6 years after Bush's illegal attack we still have 131,000 troops there. They may be out of the big cities for now but they will be back. Remember, Bush wanted a permanent Korea style force there should I say more specifically in the middle east. Like it or not that will be the case for the indeterminable future unless we are smart enough to pull out and regroup right here in America. Obama is not that smart and neither is anyone else in power or near it.

The Iran backed Shiite is said to be behind the increasing violenceon the other side the Sunni are doing their share. Together they are increasing their care and IED murders as they do their damnedest to get this new middle east ()dis)order in full swing. Don't forget the Kurds who want their own sovereignty but this will be Sunni against Shiite and will eventually engulf the entire middle east. You see what's happening in Iran. There is a bigger reason for it than Iran.

Remember the most senior Ayatollah in Iran is living in Najaf, Iraq and has not been in Iran since the 1979 Revolution as he disagrees with Khamenei and his hijacking of Iran. what roll will Sistani play in the new middle east order? What role will he play in the future and why is he still sitting on the sidelines or is he?

250 people mostly Shiite were killed last week alone in this "success" we handed over to Iraq. Just as I was putting this together I heard there was another car bombing in Kirkuk no report of deaths yet. The hell on earth Bush created for Iraq when he attacked will soon get under way. I am sorry to say this because like you I was powerless to stop this but I guarantee you the entire middle east will be engulfed before it consumes the entire world.

Mark my words! All this plus what he did to the US is because of the "success" of the Alcoholic egomaniac who left the White House proud of his destruction. He attacked Iraq to get into the Middle east to "straighten it out" Remember, the idiot said he talked to God and he was doing God's work. 6/30 was declared National Sovereignty Day in Iraq as fireworks were fired and people danced and celebrated in the streets. I can just wait watch and listen expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

One of my sons that has been to both Iraq and Afghanistan more than a few times leading EOD teams. He has been trying to prepare my 20 year old who will be going to Afghanistan in December to do the same thing. They are the nuts who drive in the huge tractor like vehicles to hopefully find and disarm IED’s. He said if you touch the vehicle when it hits a 500 pound stack at the very least what ever is touching the vehicle will be broken. It is only going to get worse I wish it would end and quick! I can only wonder what is next as Afghanistan too is getting worse.

Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan? remember the Gulf. I lost track of it but we had 3 carrier Battle Groups in the Gulf and France had the Charles De Gaule guarding the entrance. Anyway if this blows up as I expect Obama is poised to deal with all those countries right from the Gulf but what about Russia who also has nuclear assets there and whose troops in Iran were long ago ordered to protect their interests?

James Joiner

Gardner, Ma

http://www.anaveragepatriot.com/

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Posted By mona37 mona37 | 4 months ago
like you said, expect the worst and hope for the best!! I'm sick of war and tragedies and men's greed for power and domination! why can't we all just let it be and let live and love humbly!??
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
mona
I just don't get it. I had great hopes when Obama was elected but the world does not seem to want to cooperate neither do the Republicans. The future really concerns me!
Posted By Changez Changez | 4 months ago
I'm sorry about your sons, that they have to be in a war. I can understand that you want them to come home so badly. It must be awful having them out there. Just try and get them back.
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
Thanks Changez
You have to be proud but very concerned. It stinks but they are adults and you are their parent not their keeper. Driving around looking for IED's is not my idea of fun. My oldest thinks it's funny. He has been lucky so far though he has lost numerous friends. I don't worry about him too much. It is his youngest brother who is naive that really worries me. The one flying air support I don't worry about. I know it will never happen but I wish we would get out and live in peace.
Posted By mllovric mllovric | 4 months ago
Suicide bombers with car bombs attacked Kirkuk in Northern Iraq yesterday
while the American marines were leaving and handing power to the new army
of Iraq. Prime Minister said from Baghdad, we can handle them now because
the Americans are finally starting to pull out and we have more than enough fire power to keep the rebels under control. Any rebels found, they will be systematically shot dead unless they give up their arms and
fall down on their hands and knees with arms in the air. 2/7/2009.
Posted By jongleur jongleur | 4 months ago
jmsjoin, My bride of 30 years and I marched through the streets of San Francisco, along with hundreds of thousands of others, before the illegal invasion of Iraq, the day after, and a number of times since, while police snipers lined the rooftops above and helicopters circled round and round and round and round, seeming to have an endless supply of fuel. The idiot--a moniker that gives too much credit--ignored the voices of this country, then insultingly announced "Mission Accomplished" in his May 1, 2003 publicity debacle on the aircraft carrier USS Lincoln. But what has actually been accomplished? 4,321 U.S. soldiers and over 100,000 confirmed Iraqi civilian deaths and millions injured, plundering of Iraq's natural resources and historical treasures and poisoning that country with depleted uranium, the piracy of nearly $700 billion in U.S. taxpayer dollars, torture and murder and death and destruction and U.S. imperialism at its worst.

What are my sobering, personal thoughts? I reflect back on the last six years and I can only cry!

- jongleur
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
mllovric
They say they can handle it but I don't know. Maybe with American air power and them being at their beckon and call. We will definitely now see just how much they want their Democracy!
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
jongleur
I thank you and your wife. The treatment of anti war protesters under Bush sickened me. Everything about him. It really peeved me that he ignored all good advice to the contrary to attack Iraq to get back into the middle east. Just lie after lie and it is still going on.
Reply By jongleur jongleur | 4 months ago
jmsjoin, Thank you for the great work you do, not being bashful to expose the truth. Not sure if you noticed the images I uploaded of protests in San Francisco the day after the Iraq invasion. Being ignored and marginalized by Bush and the neocons was disgraceful enough, but it was especially insulting when the mainstream media mischaracterized the peaceful protests, exponentially underestimated the size of the crowds, and vilified the participants. I was there amongst the densely packed crowd that wound tightly through the streets for miles and miles. Pictures don't lie like Bush and the corporate slanting of news for sensationalism or political bend. Keep up the outstanding work!
- jongleur
Posted By Changez Changez | 4 months ago
At least Obama is trying, from what I can see over here. I think so at least, unless he's an even bigger and better liar than GW was.
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
Jongleur
I must have seen them but I will look again. A good friend of mine who writes here sometimes is quite gifted. Anyway he had similar anti war experiences in Indiana him and his kids also met Obama as he worked for the local campaign office. Thanks and take care!
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
Jongleur
I must have seen them but I will look again. A good friend of mine who writes here sometimes is quite gifted. Anyway he had similar anti war experiences in Indiana him and his kids also met Obama as he worked for the local campaign office. Thanks and take care!
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
changez
I agree Obama is trying. Some things though as you can see will not change and has not like taking on the so called terrorists around the world.
Posted By mllovric mllovric | 4 months ago
Jimsjoin, with the news of a uranium being discovered on the moon, that is exactly the reason why it should not be mined. If some mad man gets it
all life on earth could be exterminated by using fire power from outer space. 3/7/2009.
Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 4 months ago
mllovric
Mankind is maddening isn't it? They seem bent on their own destruction!
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