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As Pakistan gets closer to the edge JSOC is prepared to secure their Nukes as chaos seems to be in US hands!

Islamabad : Pakistan | 8 months ago
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I am really torn here. Knowing the average Pakistani citizen wants peace and will defend their country to the death as we would I am very concerned with the latest developments in Pakistan. They had to be purposely divulged I will have to say to at least feign cooperation by Obama but once again have to wonder about the wisdom of divulging certain capabilities or intentions. Knowing a thousand plus so called militants have been killed since this clean up began and the military will continue its attacks on mountainous towns not yet touched along with promised increased drone attacks by the US I have to wonder. Last year there was a total of 36 US drone attacks and at 18 already Obama is well on his way to proving he will stay Bush's course in too many ways as you all know.

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First I have to say sharing Drone information is not a first. We have tried it before. We found out the hard way that the Taliban knew what we were going to do as there were sympathizers inside the Government who warned the militants ahead of time. That was 3 years ago! I think we just proposed to do the same thing under a different guise.

Supposedly Obama is not going to tell them where the drones are going or going to be but isn't giving Pakistan real time video feed one and the same? Militants will know where the drones are and be able to prepare what they perceive as the target area, installing civilians as they do and in fleeing the area themselves. I am sorry! I think giving Pakistan their own drones as they want will somehow work against us as has already proven to be the case if things are not kept close to the vest. I think this is a mistake but we will soon find out as In a First, US Provides Pakistan With Drone Data

I do not seem to agree with much of what Obama is doing today as when all is said and done Obama is doing the same thing Bush did and except for his perceived desire to help average Americans he is proving to me to be a third Bush term. Maybe this merely shows how naive Obama was as a candidate and we were to think he could do it and now he is in the unenviable position to have to dis his base in the face of a growing reality. The plan is a detailed plan to secure Pakistan's Soviet style mobile nuclear force if it appears they are in danger of falling into the hands of Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or any other "perceived" militants.

Key word perceived! American intelligence sources say the operation would be conducted by Joint Special Operations Command, the super-secret commando unit headquartered at Fort Bragg, N.C At least for me until now JSOC and what they are doing in Pakistan and Afghanistan has not been divulged. I do not know if it is wise or not but Obama has let this out of the bag too. JSOC is the military's chief terrorists hunting squad and has units now operating in Afghanistan on Pakistan's western border.

A secondary mission is to secure foreign nuclear arsenals. As you know the mission has taken on added importance in recent months, as Islamic extremists have taken territory close to the capital of Islamabad and could destabilize Pakistan's shaky democracy. Pakistan appears to be holding off the Taliban threat thus the threat of the US too feel the need to act on defending their Nukes. Just in case the US Has Plan to Secure Pakistan Nukes if Country Falls to Taliban

Knowing that we have now put out to the world that we have a plan to secure Pakistan's nukes that was set up in 2004 I have to think that first this is the reason Pakistan was finally compelled to take on the Taliban more forcefully. It also makes me wonder what the hell are we thinking? We know what Sovereignty is. We know how important the nukes are to Pakistan! We have to know when all is said and done that all sides in Pakistan, civilian, Taliban, Al Qaeda, whatever, will come together and take on the outsiders us! What will the future bring to Pakistan and the US?

James Joiner

Gardner, Ma

www.anaveragepatriot.com

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Posted By citizenjournal citizenjournal | 8 months ago
excellent report.
Posted By jmsjoin James Joiner | 8 months ago
citizenjournal
Thanks, you really have to wonder what is really going on. It is tough to observe everything, know we do not know the whole story or the truth, and be powerless to control any of it.
Posted By shackled001 shackled001 | 8 months ago
'Obama is doing the same thing Bush did' No surprises?!?!. i feel bad for Americans, who were given hope for better by their president. i feel sorry for the people.

Pakistanis or the rest of the world never thought things would change.
Posted By jmsjoin James Joiner | 8 months ago
shackled001
The game is the same just the packaging has changed. Hope springs eternal I guess for most Americans. Like Europe we still have hope but is is again tempered by a unsavory reality.
Posted By jmsjoin James Joiner | 8 months ago
Thanks CJ
Those things sure are impressive but it is floundering. They think the new commander will turn things around. It makes me wonder because he use to be the commander of JSOC. No coincidence there!
Posted By mllovric mllovric | 8 months ago
At this time I'm able to give an update on the Tamil war but not Pakistan
as I got it from the Australian newschannel last night. After twenty five years the Tamil war has come to the end. Tamil Tigers have admitted defeat and surrendered waving the flag of truce. They have been battered
into submission. There's still some sporadic fighting going on but this is not going to continue. There will be no separate Tamil state. The people were all hostages of the Tamil Tigers trapped in the territory but
now the Sri Lankan government will have to decide how to handle the crisis of the influx of the people from the Tamil area into Sri Lanka by bringing humanitarian aid. Miron Lovric, 19/5/2009.
Posted By Changez Changez | 8 months ago
Nice report. The one thing that seems to be a thread through most of the reports online that are posted by people outside Pakistan is that the Government is 'shaky'. That is not particularly true and requires greater understanding of Pakistani society and the political realities that exist on the ground. In the heavily populated areas of the country the state structure is widespread and extremely resilient. The bureaucracy and the police are interwoven into every aspect of public life. The state is all-pervasive and the cultural significance of this stretches back several hundred years. Even today, for much of the middle and lower middle class, having a government job is the pinnacle of achievement. It means sitting around getting paid for doing nothing, with benefits. The other factor is the government itself. The 2008 elections were widely seen as fair and impartial, since Musharraf had to, and the results returned one of the strongest showings by a single party since 1971. In the nineties, no party ever had a majority like the PPP does now. The PML-N is for the moment content to sit in their home province of Punjab, and barring stupid maneuvering such as the imposition of Governor's rule there by the President, they seem happy to maintain the status quo. The army is being very professional right now. The challenge to the state structure, obviously an American push, and outcry from a wide spectrum of the public after a spate of terrorist attacks, prompted the government to take action in Swat. The prospect of the militants marching triumphantly on Islamabad was never realistic except in the fevered imaginations of their own commanders. Pakistan is not Somalia or Afghanistan, with 20 years of civil war and competing warlord factions. It was until very recently, a well developed and entrenched state structure with a host of economic problems and endemic corruption. The reason most people blame the U.S. is that NATO in Afghanistan forced many Taliban fighters over the border, where they began radicalising the locals, forming an array of militant groups, some of which never existed before and God knows where they get their money and weapons from. The theories about this are as varied as the groups themselves, with people proposing everything from the U.S. to India and Russia and China as possible sources. Maybe they all are. Constantly talking about a weak government, failing state etc. is only perpetuating a perception that could become self-fulfilling and dangerous. For the sake of the people living here, please refrain from it. And Pakistan's nukes are very secure, the scare is that someone like JI leader Qazi Hussain could win an election, but knowing Pakistani politics that is unlikely since he is thoroughly unlikable. Talk like this, however, may push people into his, or someone like him's, arms.
Posted By jmsjoin James Joiner | 8 months ago
mllovric
I was listening to this yesterday. I gues the Tigers were defeated on the ocean. I hope a new era there has begun. It is just my innner core and personality to never give up, never say die. It is tough for me to envision anyone else doing that but I do have hope.
Posted By jmsjoin James Joiner | 8 months ago
Changez
To me it is not that the Government is shaky per say. It is the History of military coups. I do have faith as I see the entire country coming together to take on the Taliban as they rightly see them as a direct internal threat to their country. It is the US that is making me nervous.

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