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U.S. Out of Iraq - NOW By Jerome Grossman and my Contrarian come back!

By: jmsjoin send a private message
Boston : MA : USA | 9 months ago  
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  • The Relentless Liberal Jerome Grossman and President Obama
    The Relentless Liberal Jerome Grossman and President Obama
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    The Relentless Liberal Jerome Grossman and President Obama
The Relentless Liberal Jerome Grossman and President Obama

Barack Obama captured the soul of the Democratic Party when he denounced the American invasion of Iraq as a violation of international law and the United Nations Charter, based on faulty and manipulated intelligence about weapons of mass destruction. His election to the presidency proved that the voters trusted him to end the war as he promised.

While Americans are grateful that this six year old war will soon be over, they wonder at the delay in pulling our troops from Iraq. More than 4000 Americans have been killed; more than 30,000 have been wounded in this war generally regarded as a mistake.

Our military leaders say that we should leave "responsibly." What does that mean? Responsible to whom? To the Iraqis, whose public wants us to leave at once? To the corrupt Iraqi government whose leaders want us to stay as long as we supply the dollars? Our first responsibility is to the men and women of the U. S. military. No more deaths. No more wounds. How would you like to be the last soldier to die for a mistake?

Obama promised a pullout within 16 months. Now, his senior officials tell the New York Times that will be extended to 19 months. How many Americans will be killed or wounded in those three months? Why? To protect the military equipment? Leave it there for the Iraqis. When we invaded, our operation against a shooting enemy took one month. Getting out should take the same one month.

If we are serious President Obama plans to leave behind a "residual force" to continue training Iraqis, to hunt down foreign terrorist cells, to guard the American Embassy and other American installations. That doesn't sound like much of a withdrawal. The residual tasks are what we have been doing for six years. Right now, there are about 142,000 American military in Iraq and a like number of civilian contractors working for us.

The duties of the residual force indicate that at least 100,000 Americans would remain in Iraq in addition to a sizeable number of contractors to help them. Not the pullout we expected. And if the fragile truce between the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds disintegrates, U.S. forces are likely to stay in Iraq. The U.S. now has more than 700 military bases in 130 countries. The Middle East contains 60% of the oil on earth. The U.S. has commercial, political, financial and cultural interests in every country in the area, some of the interests valued in the trillions of dollars.

Will Iraq become the 131st country? Will the residual force become the U.S. military base? Removing all U.S. troops from Iraq – NOW – may reverse our reliance on military power, restore our international reputation and encourage the use of “soft power” in pursuit of American interests.

Jerome

It has long been the goal as you may remember to have a permanent presence in Iraq. I am hoping that has changed under President Obama but I am still not convinced of it.

That monstrous expense for they call an Iraqi Embassy not only built as a vanguard to Bush's failed Democratization program, it is also a self contained self sufficient fort for Americans. Remember Bush wanted a Korea style force in Iraq for years? Iraq is not Korea and that would be Custer's last stand Iraq style! I heard Obama say he wanted to leave 20 to 50,000 troops there as trainers and advisers and that would work for me. I see no reason whatsoever why we can not go out the way we went in. Pull right out and head back to Qatar and load and withdraw from there!

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  • Posted By slydog slydog | 9 months ago
    Some real astute observations jsm! Some civil police training and
    some miltary training assistance and perhaps a presence for the
    Giant Embassy should be enough down the road. Let the Iraqi's
    resolve their own internal conflict. Time for the Democratic
    baby to walk without the training wheels of stressed out.unwelcome
    and over-worked American soldiers

    Bring'em Home!
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 9 months ago
    slydog
    Howdy and thanks Funny but i was this morning trying to think of what they called the anti Vietnam movement because Jerome is the one that got that started too!
    He has been at this since the 40s and truly is a true Libertarian, the Relentless Liberal! He is 91 now and when we met we became instant friends though we most times differ in opinions!

    Anyway I agree with him here and we should pull right back to I think it was Kuwait not Qatar. But that won't happen. It is long time to see how bad the Iraqi's want Democracy. I firmly believe they do not and will turn on each other when given the chance!
  • Posted By Ashjb Ashjb | 9 months ago
    one word why the US wont pull out completely.....OIL!!
  • Posted By jmsjoin jmsjoin | 9 months ago
    Ashjb
    That is the usual case but anyway you look at it I see us in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the entire middle east for many generations like it or not!
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