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Nobel Prize Winner Paul Krugman warns that the second Great Depression will be difficult to stop

New York City : NY : USA | 10 months ago  
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In an Op Ed article in the NYT dated January 5, Paul Krugman writes that for many years, the predominant view has been that it would be quite easy to prevent another Great Depression. For example, Robert Lucas of the University of Chicago declared in 2003 that the "central problem of depression-prevention has been solved, for all practical purposes, and has in fact been solved for many decades." Milton Friedman persuaded many economists, including Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman, that the 1929 Depression could have been stopped simply by providing banks with more liquidity, which would have prevented a sharp fall in the money supply.

Krugman says that the present financial and economic crisis shows that preventing depressions isn't so easy after all. "Under Mr. Bernanke's leadership, the Fed has been supplying liquidity like an engine crew trying to put out a five-alarm fire, and the money supply has been rising rapidly. Yet credit remains scarce, and the economy is still in free fall."

Milton Friedman's assertion that the Great Depression could have been controlled through monetary policy was an attempt to refute John Maynard Keynes, who had explained that monetary policy was ineffective during a depression. Fiscal policy, entailing large scale public spending by the government, was needed to fight mass unemployment.

Says Krugman, "The failure of monetary policy in the current crisis shows that Keynes had it right the first time. And Keynesian thinking lies behind Mr. Obama's plans to rescue the economy." The Economist confirms this in an editorial dated January 8: "With interest rates close to zero, the Federal Reserve is out of conventional monetary ammunition, so fiscal policy must do the lion’s share." In effect, Barack Obama’s economic package, if passed expeditiously by Congress, would create a surge in public spending in areas of high priority, provide employment to Americans who would otherwise be on relief, utilize idle money, and put labor and capital to work producing something of added value.

Krugman fears, however, that President-elect Barack Obama’s ambitious rescue plans may be difficult to implement in the face of Republican opposition which is determined to set up road blocks under the guise of "careful Congressional deliberation". On ideological grounds Republicans are opposed to an F.D.R.-type solution with heavy public spending. Many politicians demand proof "that the benefits of the proposed public spending justify its costs — a burden of proof never imposed on proposals for tax cuts".

As recent events have shown, the government has dished out tens of billions to banks and some other financial institutions without batting an eyelid. Keynes knew that giving money away tends to be met with fewer objections than plans for public investment "which, because they are not wholly wasteful, tend to be judged on strict 'business' principles."

Krugman is thus deeply concerned about the prospects for the Obama plan to rescue the economy. He is sure that Congress will pass a stimulus plan, but it may be delayed inordinately, downsized or both. As a result, the economy will plunge for most of 2009, and when the plan takes effect, it will only slow the dive, not stop it. Meanwhile, deflation will get entrenched leading to a permanently depressed economy. It could well presage the start of the second Great Depression, unless the leaders get their act together and pass the stimulus package expeditiously, albeit with due diligence and oversight.

After this the country will face the more difficult task of fiscal reform aimed at restoring a reasonable balance between spending and revenues, over time. According to the Economist, the Congressional Budget Office has calculated that America’s publicly held debt could rise from 41% of GDP in 2008 to 54% in 2010, a 55-year high, even without Mr Obama’s stimulus plans. Without major tax and spending reforms it could go up to a dizzying 400% by 2050. This is highly undesirable if not unacceptable and therefore represents a major policy challenge to the new administration.

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Posted By Majdy Majdy | 10 months ago
In this time and age, a second great depression will be even worse than the first one and we so don't that to happen. I hope the leaders come up with a sensible plan to rescue economy and before we plunge deeper into anything even close to the GREAT Depression we are successfully pulled out of it!
Reply By paul3948 paul3948 | 10 months ago
Average recession in US 12-24 months, current recession is 12 months old. We may already be on our way out of this, slowly, yes but on our way back.

Current unemployment is 3% below levels in mid-80's from which we emerged unscathed and only 2% above what is called "structural" unemployment. Housing inventory is beginning to shrink.

Those warning of dire economy seem to have a whole lot less data than those counseling more restraint. How much of this is hype, marketing, campaigning etc and how much is real?

Perhaps most importantly, has anyone EVER barrowed their way to prosperity? No. We need real people creating real value and real opportunity. The current proposal has NO chance of aiding that process and will likely hurt it by crowding out barrowers that can actually create long term, private sector jobs. The current plan will extend not alleviate the current problems.
Posted By Punditty Punditty | 10 months ago
Good to see you writing again, MarcusCato.

The obstructionist Democrats in Congress need to get behind Obama on the stimulus package and quit acting like a bunch of foolish Republicans.

Reply By MarcusCato MarcusCato | 10 months ago
Thanks for your encouragement.
Posted By johnnyg johnnyg | 10 months ago
This article raises certain valid points. Like Majdy, I hope that we can avoid a second Great Depression, but that's like me saying I hope Israel stops its attacks on Gaza today! We can hope.. but the fact of the matter is that if liquidity does not help, what will? Someone needs to come up with other (better) measures, however, I do think it is inevitable, and we will need to go through a lot of tough times in the coming year.
Posted By MarcusCato MarcusCato | 10 months ago
JohnnyG, I am afraid one cannot rely on prayers and hopes alone. That is why President-elect Obama is hoping to launch a massive economic stimulus plan.
Reply By maidiya maidiya | 10 months ago
I would agree to your point here. Marcus i think the basis of American Economy was on small businesses i.e. entrepreneurs.They were the ones who fueled American economy. In someway if Obama revives the planning and support for start ups. It might help reviving the economy slowly but steadily. The bail out plans are not the long term solution here.

This is my own analysis. How helpful can this be, i can say much.
Posted By Marli Marli | 10 months ago
I was in my twentys in the eighties . I would get layed off a lot but I always had a another Manufacturing job to go to. Now there is NOTHING .I know white collar jobs are being lost too. The unemployment % rate is way off. Peoples unemployment compensation runs out and they go off the list. this is bad! very, very bad . Jobs were sold out to China by Walmart , ect for high profits . now it coming back full circle to haunt the greedy bastards . No jobs , no spending period .Just hope to keep a roof over your head and weather the storm.
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