Tibet is Chinese For Palestine

Finally the Tibetans are being compared to the Palestinians. Maybe now they will get more coverage and the world will see the truth.

Come now, this is simply propaganda. Tibetans are rioting because they have never internalized the true lessons of socialism. Until they come to this realization, they will toil under the illusions promoted by their medieval religion and isolated way of life. The west must understand this, and not make the silly mistake of seeing this as a pro-democracy movement. National liberation was granted to them long ago.

This reminds me of a famous samurai quote, "the warrior doesn't care if he's called a beast or a dog; the main thing is winning.” This is an interesting site. I saw this event on digg http://digg.com/political_opinion/Is_Tibet_the_next_Palestine

Thanks Harriet for yr first hand reports of the situation, I have also been to Dharamsala & and came to know about their plight and also read about their history. Well the people of the world should start a world-wide protests against Communist Chinese rule, Governments should strongly object to the Chinese atrocities in Tibet & ask them to start negotiations with DALAI LAMA for future administration of Tibet. This is the time to take Strong posture and let them know that we are not going to be silent this time & watch helpless people face ethnic cleansing, everybody should decide not to use ANY CHINESE product from now onwards, however cheap it is, so that it will hurt them economically. Lastly the world organisations should put pressure on the Chinese to come to the negotiation table or they'll have to face a situation where teams will be pulled out ot the Olympics.

THE TIME HAS COME TO TEACH THESE CHINESE HAN EXPANSIONISTS THAT WE ARE IN THE 21ST CENTURY WHERE THEY CANNOT JUST WIPE OUT ONE OF THE MOST PEACEFUL CULTURES. AS HIS HIGHNESS DALAI LAMA PUTS IT WE CANNOT LET THEM CARRY ON THIS CULURAL GENOCIDE IN TIBET.

OR if all this doesn't deter them, then BOYCOTT THE OLYMPICS

China has no business in Tibet.

Japan for Japanese
India for Indian

Just as:
Tibet for Tibetan
China for Chinese

Pls sign this petition

http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/1.php?cl=62007668

We can't suffer any more

According to China's Law, a Tibetan who kills less than 3 Chinese is not convicted!

In China, many Chinese people fear Tibetan very much because Tibetans easily lose temper and like fighting. They carry with them a long Tibetan knife anytime. Many Chinese people are killed by Tibetans just because of a quarrel with them. However, those Tibetan killers are not convicted and punished.

The injustice of China's law is due to the goverment's resolve to maintain the unity of the country. The impunity of Tibetan killers is just one of the many measures.

According to China's Law, a Tibetan who kills less than 3 Chinese is not convicted!

In China, many Chinese people fear Tibetan very much because Tibetans easily lose temper and like fighting. They carry with them a long Tibetan knife anytime. Many Chinese people are killed by Tibetans just because of a quarrel with them. However, those Tibetan killers are not convicted and punished.

The injustice of China's law is due to the goverment's resolve to maintain the unity of the country. The impunity of Tibetan killers is just one of the many measures.

Compared to the White people who killed millions of Indians in North America and drove them to barren places, Chinese is very compassionate because Chinese never launched any genocide of minorities like early Americans did to innocent indians. On the contrary, many Chinese civilians suffer from Tibetan's brutality.

Who the hell are the second class citizens in China?

I am amazed by the international community's ignorance of Dalai Lama's true character, a medieval slave driver. He claims he is a religious leader but he was exactly that, a slave driver before he fled China in the late 1950's. So many Tibetans were living under absolute poverty and slavery before Chinese government took over from Dalai’s rule. Apart from a few elite monks, was there any basic medicine for ordinary Tibetans? Was there any basic education for the ordinary Tibetans? Is it known to people that Dalai Lama was carried around by those Tibetan slaves despite his youth when he ruled Tibet? Is it known to people that he never worked a single day for his crust?

The claim of Chinese cultural genocide in Tibet is a total load of rubbish. It was true that religions of all colours were banned in China during ‘Cultural Revolution’ but that extended to Chinese traditional culture as well. It was driven by fanatic ideologue that beared no resemblance to recent government policies too. I have friends who worked and lived in Tibet for over 50 years. From their personal accounts, Tibetan culture and religion were much better treated and preserved during the ‘Cultural Revolution’ than Chinese’s own traditional culture because governments of all levels took very sensitive views of the Tibetan situation.

While I don’t like many Chinese government policies and laws, I cannot agree with some in the international community to paint the Tibetan issue as a racial and religious issue. I see those views as of evil origin and ill intent if not out of ignorance.

By constantly twisting the truth and facts, Dalai Lama incites racial hatred and religious hatred. Many ignorant Tibetans saw their Chinese compatriots as enemies. Their behaviour towards their fellow Chinese citizens were sometime very violent. This is all because they believed in their religious leader such as Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama should be responsible for the violence in Tibet.

Some Tibetan terrorists killed some people in Chengdu, the capital of Sichuan Province, the neighboring province of Tibet. In Dianxin Road, Chengdu, a Tibetan terrorist killed two young people and fled. Anyone who wants pictures, please give me your email account.

In this event, Chinese are like Americans and Tibetans are like Taliban terrorists.

what point are you making here?

Thank you all for these comments on my piece. They are fascinating and highly instructive. The stereotypes of Tibetans that are offered here are important. In Europe, Allan, you would be considered a racist for making such statements. In France, you would be considered a member of the National Front for indulging such stereotypes. Have you heard of Jean-Marie Le Pen? Your comments make the BNP in the UK look almost liberal in comparison. It is for these kinds of reasons that Western liberals get so upset by China's occupation of Tibet. Like I said, China's occupation is racist.

I think calling Tibetans Terrorist is highly irresponsible remarks. Tell me how many Chinese has been killed by Tibetans, maybe few(below 5 specific) by the riots, now tell me how many Tibetans killed by the Chinese, 1.5 million during 1950 to 1960, few thousand during 1989, and from few days protest, over hundred and the death toll is still mounting. I think if the Chinese government really think Tibet is part of their Country, why are they are encouraging prostitution in Lhasa. It is the most sacred place in Tibet, and about 80% of the business are prostitution shop. Therefore, without knowing facts and just because you are patriotic, is not the good reason to support your country. Since, you can write those comments, i would assume that you are an educated person which disappointed me for supporting blindly to the propaganda of your Communist Government.

We don't hate Chinese, lot of Tibetans work under Chinese people including me. But the difference is they are common people who suffer from the communist regime as same as we do. Tibet is never part of china with the history at it's disposal for the evidence until 1959 when the Mao rise to power in china. China and Tibet are different in religion(Chinese don't believe in god), culture, tradition, language(Tibetan language originate from India), political(democratic vs Communist), people(6 million vs 1 billion). I love Chinese people but as a brother from my other mother, not from my mother.

Why do China's writers often fail to understand while knowing that all media, communictions be it books or the internet is all controlled and monitered by the Chinese governoment, hence having access to only Chinese propaganda, still believe everything they say. Could it be Chinese pride, or maybe you work for the government or due to the lack of infomation in China? Either way it always good to question yourself.

Total Bull shit!!!

A government that is happy to kill its own people for expressing their opinions in the heart of China (Tiananmen Square, Falun Gong) can be believed right? China says 10 people died during the protests and they were due the rioters and looters burning shops, well here are the names and pictures of 9 Tibetans shot dead. http://www.studentsforafreetibet.org/article.php?id=1337 How is that posiable? Has anyone seen pictures of Tibetans with guns recentlyin Tibet? I'm sure the Chinese government will be the first to show the world if it existed.

Please show some kind of evidence of this so called “China's law” for your blog, so that we can have an intelligent debate and avoid you coming across as an ignorant Chinaman, which defeats the point of your blog right?. Thank you.

It has all the characteristics as a conflict can have - monks, an evil government and the good guy, the saint-like Dalai Lama. I think this is amazing that we still choose to cover a selection of issues around the world, not saying these events are terrible. Genocides have been going on around the world such as for instance most African states and no one really thinks that is important. Hypocracy at it's worst....

Awareness about genocide in Tibet is spreading around the world but at a price of loss of many lives on both sides especially the tibetans.when someone commented that nothing is being done about whats happening elsewhere like Africa, i won't necessarily agree on that..More so, lack of propaganda can be a reason.If something done is not known, it doesnot imply nothing is being done at all.ahve been trying peaceful means, We are no terrorist, we are people strugging for justice.if you call someone like that a terrorist, then let it be so..but u r the one who made us terrorist then..Dalai lama is an embodiment of peace.Even at this age, he is working tirelessly.The baseless accusations from the chinese govt. is totally ridiculous.If they have evidence, then as the tibetan PM said, they should tell it to the world.

My point was not to smear any piece of the Dalai Lama. My point is that because he is who he is Tibet will become a natural vantage point for attention, while other regions of this world who lacks that vantage point will never ever be heard. I resent the fact that you could imply the fact that I do not consider the acts by the Chinese government as other than outrageous. My basic point is that we should raise our eyes and see beyond the individual conflicts. I understand the intention of taking one conflict at a time but too many conflicts around the world will then just die off in oblivion. I still think we make the comfortable choice when we choose which conflicts matter and which conflicts don't.

answer is simple - to the Chinese government and its colossal army - GET OUT OF TIBET!

the Olympics are a joke whilst this blatant oppression goes on, here and elsewhere

people of China - reject your tyranical government

DO IT NOW!

kr

Fishmanatsea, if it is true like you say, the Dalai Lama is a dishonest medieval slave driver then he must be a very smart one for fooling countless universities, institutions, the Nobel committee, and world leaders for numerous awards he receives. And you and China must also be so smart for seeing through his lies.
Or could it be you have had a little too much of that old Chinese propaganda. Seriously you should read some of his work and look at what he has done the last 50 years. UNBIESEDLY!!

I am so blown away by the ignorance of the Chinese bloggers here. It is amazing. The level of their understanding of current and past Tibetan history is below third grade. The information you are being fed by the Government of China is garbage. No one in the world trust it. They are professional liers. Don't confuse making Tibetans a second class citizen in their own country with liberation, don't confuse looting Tibetan natural resources with investment in Tibetan people's future, don't confuse imposition of Chinese language and ways of life on Tibetan people with preservation and promotion of Tibetan culture, don't confuse overwhelming Tibet with floods of Chinese immigrants with beneficial tourism. We Tibetans want China to leave Tibet. Tibet belongs to Tibetans. It is that simple.

I see lots of Italians supporting our cause. I want to thank all our Italian supporters for lending us their voice. I also call upon all the consciencious people in the world to support us in our struggle to regain our country and freedom back from China. Thank you all.

How...in God's name can you compare "Palestine" to Tibet???? What has Tibet ever done to China??? Tibet doesn't threaten China's right to exist...any comparison between these two situations shows a distinct LACK of education and knowledge on the part of the contributor.....PLEASE...educate yourself before making such ridiculous and inflammitory comments!!!!!!!!

Hogwash !!! Another ignorant brainwashed Chinese ... what a pity..

see those modified pictures on CNN? See those news on washington post that chinese army beat tibetans surprisingly based on some violent pictures shot in Nepal ?? now you see how politics works. Don't scream all around the place, tibetans! dont use human rights and religion freedom to fool the world now. you are just pathetic politicians rather than some human right fighters. what? you are asking all chinese to leave tibet? what if we dont? then we'll be beaten and robbed, right?wow, that was really racial. see how violence occurred besides political reasons? yeah, you just answer that to all the world----it's racism!
and what is true history? no answer to that question now. both sides are politicians. and like you said, politicians are professional liars. so plz DO NOT pretend that you are telling the true story.

and you are saying that we are treating you like second class citizens? all right. you know what, before this event, it's true that the government are blocking the news whenever you riots *protested*. to make the public never sense the crisis. and nearly all chinese are having so good impression about tibetans. In college, i even donated money to help them raise tuitions. I always believed that tibetans are most dependable and friendly ppl in this country. now i realise that how stupid i was. so please tell me what have ordinary chinese civilian done to you, huh? ok, let's assume that you are referring to those chinese inside tibet, so what do ppl living outside tibet have anything to do with that? do they deserve to be beaten and robbed and even killed?? obviously the answer is racism and politics.

At an ancient philosophical text, the "I TSING", it is written that a supreme power puts some family to rule China and if they fail, that supreme power puts some other family to rule China. That other family has to acquire power and to justify this with their victory. Allthough this refers to China and not to the whole world, it is easy to guess that this is the way that the chinese think about every simillar occasion: if you are the winner, you are right.
The "I TSING" may be ancient, but it still forms chinese state of mind, so we could expect a lot of modern Chinese to think this way.

If China follow the same policy by undermining the dialog with Dalai Lama on Complete Autonomous Tibet. Than I think time is not far that These New Young Generation Tibet would take matter in hand. Some Truth on Tibet which You and whole world should not forget. Truth of Tibet being a Complete Independent Country before Chinese Occupation. Truth of Condition of Tibet and Tibetan After Chinese Occupation: Truth of Some 1.2 million Tibetans been killed by the Chinese since 1950 Truth of some 260,000 people died in prisons and labour camps between 1950 and 1984. Truth of Chinese replacing Tibetan as the official language. Truth under which Religious practice was forcibly suppressed until 1979, and up to 6,000 monasteries and shrines were destroyed. I hope world too won’t forget this truth/ I hope whole world would stand and support us for this truth.

Tibet Truth which whole world should not forget. Truth of Tibet being a Complete Independent Country before Chinese Occupation. Truth of Condition of Tibet and Tibetan After Chinese Occupation: Truth of Some 1.2 million Tibetans been killed by the Chinese since 1950. Truth of some 260,000 people died in prisons and labour camps between 1950 and 1984. Truth of Chinese replacing Tibetan as the official language.
Truth under which Religious practice was forcibly suppressed until 1979, and up to 6,000 monasteries and shrines were destroyed.
I hope world too won’t forget this truth/ I hope whole world would stand and support us for this truth.

It is known to all the world that Chainees do not get true facts. They get government version. it is hard for them to believe other info even it is a fact. Tibet has different culture and history. It is not fair to destroy it under the name of communism. Those who are critisising It is known to all the world that Chinese do not get true facts. They get government version. it is hard for them to believe other info even it is a fact. Tibet has different culture and history. It is not fair to destroy it under the name of communism. Those who are criticizing present unrest in Tibet can not digest the fact that it was result of decades long Communist oppression. It is good if they learn to respect their wish. present unrest in Tibet can not digest the fact that it was result of decades long Communist uppression. It is good if they learn to respect their wish.

Yes the people should come to free any area/country from another wicked country in this world becaz we are in 211st century. It is not only Tibet but the Kashmir, Palestine, and Iraq etc should all be free from other forces.

The Tibetans reserve the basic fundamental and democratic right to get their independence.The Chinese Government and the Communist Party in China should repeat the policies of their past rulers who used to subjugate lands from others.It is good for China to keep on its policy of non-aggressioninside the China and externally.By force suppressing the voice of the Tibetans will cause serious harm to the prestige of the Chinese State in the comity of the civilized and democratic nations.Sudhir Afridi

Define the Tibetans you said

Ya, Very True Luciole Chinese Govt is big liar and coward. Who always use propanganda tactic to against the truth. I tried to tried to write some comments in this chinadaily.com where some chinese are discussing about tibet but in wrong way, I thought of clarifing them on Tibet Issue but my veiw is not accepted. U can try too. http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forumdisplay.php?gid=2&fid=6 may be this is one kind of propanganda where chinese govt wants to hear only good about them and tibet. Not Truth !!! Free Tibet

As a Chinense citizen, I was astounded to learn about what you guys have discussed here.Millions of Tibeten being killed??it is unthinkable.And I seriously doubted this so-called fact. I'm not a defender of the chinese gov,nor do I like them.They can deny what's happening in front of your eyes and say it's not true.But killing tibentan people on such a large scale simply is not posssible.Why would thay do that,for pete's sake?and who spreads this accusation?The anti-Chinese orgnisations?I've been travelling abroad and seen what they said.Their words do not contain any more truth than the Chinese govenment.They are only exaggerating the truth to make themselves look more pitiful.

I am not here to personally target any 1. But I am directing this comment to all those Chinese who are either ignorant about the Tibet issue or are pretending to be so. 1st of all I would ask the ignorant bunch of Chinese to check the facts before making any lame comments on such public forums.The Tibetan govt. in exile never quoted 'millions' to be the figure of death toll in the recent protest.The figure is over 100 as opposed to the figure given by the Chinese government which was 8. I have photographic proofs to prove it. 2ndly, if Chinese govt was so innocent…then why doesn’t China allow world media to see it.Why have they restricted media from Tibet.This itself talks volumes about the issue. Lastly...we the Tibetans are not making world wide protests to extract sympathy.The whole rationale behind the protests is to garner support for truth.For how long can lies prevail?

Its no secret to anybody that Chinese government itself is a gleaming body of lies and deception. And the kind of picture that they try to portray to the world about Tibet and TIbetans...that every thing is hunky dory in the land is anything close to the reality. We, the Tibetans were ousted from our own land and those Tibetans who are in Tibet have been oppressed and have been denied from all forms of fundamental rights. The recent array of protests in Tibet is the pent up frustation which has been long over due. The Chinese invaded tibet under their expansionist policy but they are forgetting that it is now 21st century we are living in...and the world is going to tolerate anymore of such boisterous claims. Please stand for Tibet and give a civilization a second lease of life. Free TIbet!!

Could you rephrase the theme of discussion... Couldnt get a word of it...Mr. Sami Ullah..

As a famous person once said, "you are not free untill the person next to you is not".Therefore I believe nobody on this earth can be called free untill and unlessTibetans are freed from the evil occupation of Chinese.
Therefore I would want to make the use of this forum to plead to the people of the world to support the Tibetan cause. And please we need to do something urgently before we are completely wiped off.
Free Tibet!!!

Now that China's at the spotlight, by the end of the Olympics Tibet can gain a lot, by holding protests to show the world what they 're going through. But using violence and boycotting the olympics would not only benefit the Chinese, since noone would be able to call them "dictators, reacting violently to peaceful protests etc". It would also not be moral. Buddhism condemns hurting others, even if what they 've done is worse and at these times of cultural genocide, Tibetans should not only try for freedom but also for protection of their culture, which is directly connected to Buddhism.
It's time for Tibetans to claim benefits peacefully. 1989's uprising was not noticed because at the same time Berlin's wall was falling. But now, everyone looks upon China! It's the chance that Tibetans have been waiting for!

They are terrorist! They even fire the schools and hit people by harmmers!!! 15 VS 1! The police should do something to save the poor victims.When I saw the videos of what the Monks were doing,I was shocked!They were Monks!How could they do that?They were not human,in fact,I wanted to kill those beast...cry...

Why didn't Chinese police do something to save the victims?No commenters have sympathy on the poor victims?

Tibet is free.It is far too free so that the monks fired the city and killed inoccent people,even a primary school.
Tibetan people benifit good policy from the Chinese goverment.(Even when tibetan high school students take part in University entrance exams they can get extra points while the Chinses Han students don't.)
They should no go against law no matter how free they want to be,either should they hurt other Tibentans.

Tibetans are the people in China whose population is very large in number.They are of the view that Chinese Communist Party has occupied their lands and rule over their people by force ,though they the Tibetans are not willing to surrender to them,They want independence or at least complete authority for self rule ..Sudhir Afridi

Tibetans are the people in China whose population is very large in number.They are of the view that Chinese Communist Party has occupied their lands and rule over their people by force ,though they the Tibetans are not willing to surrender to them,They want independence or at least complete authority for self rule ..Sudhir Afridi

Tibetans are the people in China whose population is very large in number.They are of the view that Chinese Communist Party has occupied their lands and rule over their people by force ,though they the Tibetans are not willing to surrender to them,They want independence or at least complete authority for self rule ..Sudhir Afridi

Tibetans are the people in China whose population is very large in number.They are of the view that Chinese Communist Party has occupied their lands and rule over their people by force ,though they the Tibetans are not willing to surrender to them,They want independence or at least complete authority for self rule ..Sudhir Afridi

I would like to direct this message to those people who make comments without having any prior knowledge whatsoever about the subject. Mr. Afridi..if you have read the history properly then..you wouldnt make the blunder of airing such views. TIbet was never a part of China. Calling Tibet a part of China is as false as branding India a part of Britain. TIbet was an idependent nation untill 1959, when it was invaded by Chinese and was colonized as a colony. If Tibet was just a 'province' of China..as claimed by Chinese...how do u explain the presence of our own national anthem, flag!!! please stop making hollow statements..its not a light subject you are talking about...We are discussing the fate of a nation here!!!

Here is an adress to sign a petition to encourage china to open a constructive dialogue concerning Tibet. Please visit the site, sign the petition, and share it with all your contacts. AVAAZ wants 1 millions signatures in the next 48 hours, They already have 600 000.
http://www.avaaz.org/fr/tibet_end_the_violence/27.php

Here is the link in English fir the petition.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/98.php/?cl_tf_sign=1

YES ELENA, YOU MAY BE RIGHT THAT TIBETANS SHOULD NOT START VIOLENT DEMONSRATIONS AND CLING ON TO PEACEFUL MEANS FOR THEIR FREEDOM STRUGGLE, BUT WHAT I WAS TELLING BY BOYCOTTING THE OLYMPICS WAS TO TAKE OUR VOICE TO CHINESE EARS, IT HAS BEEN 50 YEARS SINCE TIBETANS AND SOME PEOPLE OF THE WRLD ARE SHOUTING FOR THEIR INDEPENDENCE BUTAS ALWAYS THEIR VOICES HAVE NOT REACHED THE CHINESE AND THEIR ATROCITIES ARE GOING ON AS STRONGLY AS EVER

NOW AS THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE OLYMPICS, THE CHINESE WILL BE WILLING TO HEAR THEIR VOICES AS THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO DISREGARD IT AND HOST A FLOP SHOW, OUR MAIN AIM IS NOT TO DISRUPT THE OLYMPICS WHICH IS THE GREATEST OF THE GAMES, BUT IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF OLYMPICS I.E. FREEDOM OF EVERYTHING, WE SHOULD STRIVE FOR THE FREEDOM OF THE TIBETANS AND THIS MAY BE THEIR LAST CHANCE AS IF WE ARE ABLE TO PUT SOME PRESSURE ON CHINESE THIS TIME AND BRING THEM TO THE NEGOTITION TABLES OTHERWISE ONCE THEY ARE ABLE TO HOST A MEMORABLE OLYMPICS THEN FREE TIBETAN MOVEMENT WILL BE ERASED FROM PEOPLE'S MEMORY FOREVER,

AGAIN IT WILL BE LEFT TO THE TIBETANS TO OPPOSE THESE CHINESE EXPANSIONISTS WHO WILL DESTRY THEM SLOWLY. I URGE THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD TO STOP THIS GENOCIDE AND JOIN IN THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT.

I seriously doubted those of you who call yourselves "we tibetens" really stand for tibentan people.You're just exiled noblemen who want to regain control in Tibet.What I do know is that tibetans are in no way treated like 2nd class citizen.Thank to years of development and donations from around the China(when I was a kid I donated money and clothes to Tibet),they now live much better than before.How much better can Tibetans were when they were slaves of the Dalai lama? Even their sometimes barbarious behevious are tolerated,as you can see in the recent extremely violent protests.I admiit I do not know a lot about the situation in Tibet.But I doubted those of you who call us know better than me.If I were educated by the Chinese gov(which I do no think so,I always think for myself), the you were educated by the anti-Chinese media.Why wouldn't the Chinese gov let foreign media get in Tibet? I do not think it is a very good decision, but I can understand why. The western media is surely to support the anti-Chinese Tibetans while ignoring everything else worth mentioning,just like they're crazy about reporting(and obviously surpportively)anti-Chinese campaign along the Olmpic Torch world tour while little is mentioned about the nasty attack on the disabled torch carrier, and on the torch itself, which is a noble symbol of peace and unity.

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