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evilOpinion: Obama/Biden Ticket Could Lock Up the Election Tonight.

Washington : DC : USA | about 1 year ago  
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  • Enthusiasm Chart
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    While Republican voters have remained at the halfway mark, Democratic ...
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Just like who will make it to the Super Bowl or World Series, the question of who will win the election on November 4th can be pretty accurately predicted if you study the data correctly. What hampers most prognosticators is that there is so much data to analyze that you can easily overlook a critical point that changes everything, whether it's a professional athlete's win percentage in close games, or a politician's effort in tapping into a certain demographic.

When it comes to predicting the current election (and baseball playoffs as well), no one is doing it any better than Nate Silver, the brain behind FiveThirtyEight.com. Their "motto" is 'Electoral Projections Done Right' and when you look into what they're doing it's certainly true. They analyze almost every piece of data that's come out since the primary season began over a year ago, and using a mathematic formula that is way over my head, are able to average, with trends in mind, how each state is likeliest to swing, and based on those electoral votes, which candidate has the best chance to win come November.

Their current "prediction" as of today October 2nd, is Obama 84.4% chance to win, McCain 14.6%. Mr. Silver and his partners do a much better job explaining why that number is so lopsided right now then I could, but suffice it to say they back it up.

So if Obama is currently in such a good position to win, why is tonight's VP debate so important? It's all about the party bases.

While the pundits continue to flip flop back and forth over who gained more out of the first Presidential debate, one thing is statistically clear, Obama gained ground in an area McCain couldn't touch, the Democratic base's level of enthusiasm about their candidate. Enthusiasm translates to turnout, and turnout of course translates to votes.

According to Diego-Hotline polls conducted from the day of the debate until Sept. 30th, Democratic enthusiasm for their candidate went up 9% in those four days (from 60% to 69%).

So what does that have to do with tonight's VP debate? Is the Democratic base going to get even more enthusiastic? Actually, the trend I can see happening is exactly the opposite.

In those same Diego-Hotline polls, the Republican base was a flatline, keeping around a steady 50% rate of enthusiasm. So basically McCain didn't do a whole lot at the debate to get his "troops" fired up.

That leads us to tonight. Sarah Palin's unfavorable numbers have been steadily increasing over the last two weeks of gaffs and bizarre interview answers. If she under-performs at the debate tonight, or continues her use of convoluted answers, it is very likely to lead to her last supporters, the far right Republican base, looking at her in a more unfavorable light. Since these same voters have not been happy with McCain as a nominee since long before his official nomination, the enthusiasm numbers for the McCain/Palin ticket could start to drop into the 40-30 percentile range.

Combine that with the Obama/Biden ticket's popularity and the trend in their direction with independent voters, and a bad performance by Sarah Palin tonight could spell the end of any sort of realistic chance of winning for the Republican nominees.

Of course, just like with any prediction, crazy things could happen between now and November 4th. That's why Obama will never be given a 100% win chance until those votes are counted on election day. but I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I make this prediction:

Sarah Palin could turn John McCain into Bob Dole tonight.

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  • Posted By onlinebusinesswoman onlinebusinesswoman | about 1 year ago

    This is a very interesting analysis, but I have to comment on a few things. First, the fivethirtyeight statistics are more like a projection of "chance", like when someone bets on a horse in a horse race, that is why the numbers are so high, and they are also very volatile, especially in this election and shouldn't be an indication of anything, really.


    Second, any of the polls that are shown, indicating how voters would vote, are based on estimates that have 10 percentage points or more variance. That means, if Obama is showing a lead in the polls of 8%, he could still lose if the election were held that day.


    As for turnout, Democrats almost always win if turnout in an election is very high. The reason: there are more registered Democrats than registered Republicans, so they are more likely to vote Democrat. So Obama's surge has nothing to do with his "firing up the base".. but has everything to do with the economy. Those who would have stayed home otherwise (lack of interest, etc.) are now feeling to urge to vote Obama because of the economic scare. Palin's idiocy hurts McCain a little, but in itselfs would do little to help push Obama over the top for a win.


    The debate tonight can only keep things the same, or tip the scale downward for either candidate (I don't believe either will hit any home runs) but however they do, most people are still voting for the "main dude", hence it won't change much as far as outcome is concerned.


    At least these are my own humble thoughts on the issues you've raised but you did a marvelous job at pulling out issues that have not had a lot of coverage!

  • Reply By evilopinions evilopinions | about 1 year ago

    Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate hearing other people's points, it's part of the reason I'm writing these pieces.


    As to the fivethirtyeight statistics, when you read their explanation of the process behind their numbers, you'll see they are much more than just "odds" like you would find at a horse track or in Vegas.  It's true the numbers can change, but they are not as volotile or quick moving as the kind of odds you're thinking of.


    I agree that the VP debate won't (and didn't seem to) have much of an effect on independent voters or the democratic base, it was all about the republican base, and Palin's performance did seem to steady her base numbers from their downward slide, so I'm sure she accomplished what she wanted.

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