Comments Related To: Did police yell 'burn the house down' as they cornered fugitive ex-cop Dorner?

very informative report thanks for sharing

You heard correctly. Waco 2. Also interesting during the live coverage were reports that someone had tried to get out of the house but was "pushed back in." Dorner, if it is him, probably shot himself. If not, he would have died of smoke inhalation long before the flames got him. Twitter is full of people pointing out police said Dorner had dropped his wallet and license in San Diego a week ago. Suddenly he has a new one, and it is apparently flame retardent.

I knew he would not come out of this alive and I'm sure he knew that too. As George said in the bottom comment--you go after police officers and their families, they do not wait on a trial.

You are right, forgot to include that important part. How could a wallet withstand that intense fire? Was it made of Teflon!?

I am not into the inner workings of the police but what I know about police officers based on Tru television shows is that the police officers are like a brotherhood and if a police officer is hurt or killed it is all bets are off if the criminal gets hurt by an officer who has to take down the criminal.

Yes, when you kill one of them, they come after you and not the legal way.

Law enforcement served as judge, jury, and executioner.

Thank you for this report, Veronica. Rated up and promo'd.

You welcomed Phyllis, thanks for reading. But we knew this was how it was going to end. Dorner knew that too.

thank you for the report Veronica.

Because of what you are describing most likely a news agency will conduct an investigation to discover the truth. Then the movie version will follow. One thing I hope is addressed is why he turned to murder. Many people are wronged in society and even by the police, but they don't chose to go on a rampage killing innocent people together with those they believed have wronged them.

For the lack of a better phrase, this can be a teachable event to discover how agencies, companies, businesses etc. can handle conflict and work toward resolution, so people like Dorner who are capable of deadly retribution chose other avenues instead of violence.

You're welcomed Dava..thanks for reading. Something is amiss in our society and it seems to be growing! There is a break down on many levels and though violence is not the answer, the madness seeping into to many consciousness makes some think it is. Isn't that how we solve our problems at the highest level? Look at our wars and Dorner was trained to be a killer in the all you can be U.S. Army.

Dava (and Veronica),

When I was in the Navy our ship would transport thousands of marines from California to Vietnam. I cannot tell you how many guys (mainly marines) I met who were chomping at the bit to get "over there" and kill some "gooks." Some of these men were "natural born killers" and either the military or "law enforcement" were the only jobs they could handle because they could "legally" kill people. Otherwise they became "criminals" and ended up killed themselves or in prison for life.

I don't know Dorner, of course, but he was ex-Army as well as ex-cop. Hmmm.

Rated up/shared. Excellent as usual.

HD

Herbert and Veronica,

The fact anyone has to be trained to kill is troubling, but I also realize there is a mind set a person has to reach in order to go into combat situations. Perhaps the break down is when they return from these events there are no avenues for de-programing them back into civilian life--if it's at all possible.

Thanks HD....appreciate it. I hear you. America tries to solve our problems with wars. They train our sons and daughters to kill, then send them out there to kill or be kill. Then those who survive are sent back home to assimilate as a "good citizen" after. Hmmmm.

Burn in hell, Dorner,,,, you deserve it.

..not to mention all the innocent people the LAPD shot in their pursuit of Dorner...this man accomplished more in the last ten days than anyone has since the Rodney King videotape...he exposed the fact that the LAPD are nothing more than a gang of violent thugs who operate with complete immunity and total disregard for human life

Interesting how the conversation is more about bias and racism instead of gun control and mental illness. This is the problem with Liberals, they cherry pick which stories to turn into gun violence or some unfounded story about racism and bias. It is sickening how anyone can sympathize with this nut case.

Obama is using SandyHook as his 'momentum moment' to further his agenda. I think it would be wonderful, if America used what happened with Christopher Dorner, as their moment. It is time to say 'enough is enough', and take back our country, our rights, and our Constitution, (if we just take back our Constitution the rest will follow). We are currently second class sheep, subservient to cops and to the government. WE elect THEM to represent us, and to protect US. We pay their salaries, and yet, we are the subservient sheep viewed by both 'systems', as just a "revenue stream", something to be, "handled", or both. The dynamic is completely upside down. We somehow have lost, (many many years ago, I might add), and it is (past) time we let the so called 'powers that be' know, that they are not.

The bottom line is this is not a lib or con thing as people lost their lives and families are suffering becuase we as a society cannot get a handle on 2 things menatl illness and guns. When will it stop!

This is a 100% true and accurate story, and is my personal, firsthand account: In the mid 80's I was at a concert at the Forum in LA, (the home of the Lakers at the time). LAPD presence was VERY pronounced. At the end of the show there was a large group gathered in a wide circle in the parking lot, (perhaps 200+ people). We walked over to see what was going on. Inside of the circle was a small circle, of about 12 LAPD cops, surrounding a long haired man that was hogtied lying on his stomach - lying on the asphalt. What i mean by hogtied is, he was handcuffed at the wrists and at the ankles, and then those cuffs were connected to each other. He was totally 100% helpless. About six of the twelve had their clubs out, and were surrounding him. All of them using the same type of downward club spinning stroke that they had obviously been trained to use, we watched as they beat the man to death, (in front of 200 witnesses). They continued to beat him even after it was very apparent that the life had gone out of him. It was simple "bloodlust". It was savage. .... If you're somehow in denial and thinking, well what did he do wrong? or he may have deserved it. I can tell you this 1. It doesn't matter what he did, as we (supposedly) have something called 'due process'. 2. Knowing LAPD as I do, he probably, in a drugged up state, punched a cop, and since he was a "long hair", (or perhaps even if he wasn't) that would be all it took for him to be bound and murdered. The only difference here from the brutality that goes on all over the country with pent up, pissed off, angry cops is, here he was hogtied, and here there were hundreds of witnesses, (sadly pre cell phone)...The next day in the LATimes on page 8 a little blurb..."..Show at the Forum last night. 252 arrests. 1 death." That was it.

Thanks to all who commented--appreciate your valuable input. This is indeed a tragedy not only for the victims, but for all of America. When a mane who served his country as a soldier and and a cop, then turns into a killer--something is seriously wrong.