Ron Paul or Gary Johnson? Will the revolution vote for Johnson?
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Ron Paul or Gary Johnson? Will the revolution vote for Johnson?

Washington : DC : USA | Oct 26, 2012 at 8:44 PM PDT
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Will it be Gary Johnson or Ron Paul for Americans who are not willing to vote for the lesser of two evils?

That is the question after the recent Third Party debate brought out a passionate Libertarian who did a bit more than just turn a few heads; he may have changed a multitude of minds after he mentioned Ron Paul as his hero, among other things. You know, like bringing the troops home and legalizing marijuana, just to name a couple.

Today, Free and Equal announced Libertarian candidate Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein are the winners over Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode and Justice Party candidate Rocky Anderson from the Oct. 23 bout and subsequent polling that allowed "We the People" to choose the winners. This brings the Libertarian and the Green candidates to their final destination on Nov. 5 in Washington for a late-in-the-game publicized opportunity to sway voters their way -- and you can bet Ron Paul's movement will be there in full force.

Although Johnson is certainly no Ron Paul, he may have become the next best thing in the hearts of grassroots campaigners who filled stadiums around the country each time the Texas representative made an appearance this past year as he campaigned for constitutional government, honest money and personal liberty.

Many in the revolution who chanted "President Paul" and vowed to write in the good doctor are changing their minds and aren't shy about announcing it publicly. Needless to say, some will be marking their ballots for Johnson wearing their Ron Paul T-shirt, for symbolic purposes, of course.

A Washington state resident going by "Pawnstorm" caused a category three indeed on the Daily Paul website when he announced his decision to vote for Johnson. Some solid Ron Paul supporters weren't too excited about the idea, while others embraced it after reading his persuasive piece and argument with himself that brought him to his final decision, which included the fact that his write-in Ron Paul vote may not even be counted in the only state named after a president.

The excitement around the Internet grows as social networking informs Americans that there are other choices besides the continued attempts at a two-party gridlock with Republican candidate Mitt Romney and our current president, the Democrat, Barack Obama. Their similarities are many, as they admitted in their final debate.

Even MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell put out an interesting Last Word the night after the first Third Party debate: "That right there was a presidential debate last night that was not covered by the major networks because it did not include any candidates who are running above 15 percent in the polls, but it did include candidates who dared to talk about important issues that never came up in the presidential debates watched by 60 million people."

O'Donnell used his show to educate on voting in a democracy, telling viewers to not listen to those who mislead you by telling you voting for a Third Party candidate is a wasted vote. He persuasively points out that if you vote for a Democrat who loses you are not told you wasted your vote, so why would you be wasting your vote if you voted for a Third Party candidate who loses? You would instead be sending a message.

Proving Americans are looking for another option to choose for their commander-in-chief, Tim Sarver commented beneath a Third Party video and gained 37 thumbs up for saying: "All of these guys, even Virgil, seem like better candidates for president than Obama or Romney."

Will the Paul revolution vote for Johnson? From what I have read, it may be 50/50 due to some of the differences between Paul and Johnson. Most Paul freedom fighters are a stubborn, determined group. Like their mentor, they will not be swayed by anyone or anything if it goes against their core values, even if they are the last one standing against the crowd. Some have announced on YouTube, Twitter, Ron Paul forums, and Facebook that they have, and will still write in Ron Paul as they take Gary Johnson's quote seriously, "Wasting your vote is voting for somebody you don't believe in."

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Posted By Punditty Punditty | 8 months ago
Good piece, Stephanie. I personally think that all third parties (and Dr. Paul) combined will take at least 3 percent of the popular vote, with Johnson getting close to 2 percent nationally. What this means in the big picture is that Romney or Obama can win the popular vote with 48.6 percent -- and I think that is exactly what's going to happen. Neither Romney not Obama will reach the 50 percent mark in the popular vote, and Johnson will make a difference in Colorado and possibly New Hampshire. I think Johnson will have more votes in those two states than the margin separating Obama and Romney.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
It sure will be interesting to see if you are right, Punditty. Only 2 percent, though? I guess I'm an idealist...I WANT way more, hope for more, and will even pray for more. This just became exciting again after the Third Party debates ignited a fire again in the very disappointed rEVOLution.
Posted By cmitchell2 cmitchell2 | 8 months ago
I absolutely and fervently voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. And we were screwed. I entertained a write-in for him here in Virginia, but then I came across Gary Johnson. I was pretty stubborn originally, but I eventually realized that this guy is my guy this year, and his debate performance on Tuesday sealed the deal. If you want to write-in Dr. Paul, go for it. But what will happen in 2016? Same thing? What about in the future when Dr. Paul is long gone? Will we still be writing him in? I believe that Gary Johnson doesn't try to pull the Ron Paul card just to appeal to his audience. I believe he IS part of the audience. I think we'd be doing the Liberty movement an injustice by at least not looking into Gary Johnson. If you're still not convinced, that's fine. But I know what I'm doing on November 6th and that is voting for Gary Johnson for President.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Way to go public, cmitchell2. I believe Ron Paul will go down as a major history maker. He is not only the good doctor, but has been an amazing professor to us all--teaching us how to carry the liberty torch. I have not fully decided yet. I adore Ron Paul, but feel that at this point a vote for Gary Johnson may be the wisest choice. But, then again, I adore Ron Paul. Did I already say that?
Reply By cmitchell2 cmitchell2 | 8 months ago
Haha, my heart melts every time Dr. Paul opens his mouth to talk. He's kind of like the Hayek of modern age; many don't know of his name (or in this case, his principles) but those who know him, adore him.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
He is so REAL, honest, a man of GREAT character, cmitchell2! I cannot get enough of him. THANKS for signing up to comment, very encouraging and exciting to meet another freedom fighter. I was a Ron Paul delegate in my precinct and so enjoyed the experience and waving signs and passing out brochures at a Seahawks game. It was a blast even though so many people gave us dirty looks and rejected the brochures.
Posted By itobin53 itobin53 | 8 months ago
The fact that 3rd party candidates don't get the attention they deserve is a sign of exactly what is wrong with our political system - namely money. The best candidate does not always win.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Oh Mary Ann, it is horrific how this GAME is played. Games should be fair and there shouldn't be lying, cheating and stealing--but that is not the case and it is very frustrating. What are we teaching our children? It pays to cheat? If you have money you can manipulate anything.
Posted By cyberblunt cyberblunt | 8 months ago
I just voted for Gary. Though his words are different from my own beliefs in gay marriage & legalization of MJ. I think fed gov should not recognize marriage. states should gov. by their better angles of our nature. We must maintain our mighty Fleet! I think having that we can welcome other small countries into the Republic.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Cyberblunt, Not sure that I agree 100% with anyone, but voting in a way that gives me peace that I did my homework and voted for the best person regardless if they have a chance to win is my goal. Glad you came to that place, I hope to be there soon! =)
Posted By mhatter99 Martin Kloess | 8 months ago
Well written, thank you. And thank you for your support.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
THANKS Martin, same to you. I always appreciate your input.
Posted By ahol888 Adrian Holman | 8 months ago
I'm glad that more people are choosing to vote for Gov. Johnson instead of for Gov. Romney.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Adrian, glad to hear you are supporting someone besides the twins.
Posted By Kalatrava Kalatrava | 8 months ago
I just wanted to say, Stephanie I applaud you for taking the time and going the extra mile to engage your readers on this comment board. I hope journalist as a whole take note. Take care, and thank you.

ps- Paul or Johnson (for me) doesnt matter... I see them as two advocates of the same set of principles. If paul was available I would vote him, yet as a write-in may or may not count... Johnson will be my choice. While I dont agree with all his points... I do agree with FAR more of his than tweedledee or tweedledum's.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Ha ha, I forgot about that great tweedledee, tweedledum nickname Johnson gave the debatertainers! I love it. Sounds like we may be in a similar place. In WA state, Johnson is on the ballot, but word is writing in our hero may not count. OH what a tough decision! I think there is no one else I respect and honor more than Ron Paul! He is truly THE BOSS! May liberty prevail Kalatrava!
Posted By woodtrevor21 woodtrevor21 | 8 months ago
If I eliminate Ron Paul from the equation, I would not have voted for Gary Johnson. My vote would have been for Virgil Goode over Johnson. I will be one of those that will be writing in Ron Paul and doing so along with others joining in with the WriteInRevolution(dot)com team.
Sure, I like Johnson on many issues over Obama and Romney (i.e., Obamney). I just happen to have two better choices (IMHO) than Johnson.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Thanks woodtrevor21, I would like to know more about your write in for Ron Paul and why you are sticking with it when so many are not.
Reply By woodtrevor21 woodtrevor21 | 8 months ago
Hi Stephanie,
I must admit (and I am sure it is fairly obvious) that I would vote Johnson any day over Obama or Romney.
In my humble opinion though, I actually had two other options that I preferred over Johnson, one (of course) being Ron Paul and then the other Virgil Goode. Ron Paul may not be on the ballot, but that is what a write-in option is for.
Even though my state may not actually count my vote officially, I will know I voted for my top choice, those people I know on Facebook know I voted for him (because I took a picture of my mail-in ballot), and maybe my notarized paperwork through the WriteInRevolution team will help keep track of those folks voting for Ron Paul as well.
I am sure that there are a good many people who were Ron Paul supporters who are now going to vote for Johnson for different reasons: he's the Liberty choice on the ballot, he’s actually on the ballot, he endorsed Ron Paul in the last election, he is the best 3rd Party option so if enough votes go towards him this election cycle a 3rd Party could make some leeway in the next election cycle, and so forth.
Like a number of those folks that want to show their support for a 3rd Party candidate as a symbolic gesture to go against the “one-party” system (i.e., the establishment), I am choosing a 3rd Party candidate for that same reason but without compromise to my own beliefs and my belief in the best candidate for the Presidency.
I’ll end with a quote from John Quincy Adams: "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
Kind regards,
Trevor
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
OH Woodtrevor, LOVE that quote, thanks for sharing and all your diligence for liberty. May WE THE PEOPLE win this election no matter what the numbers are! =)
Posted By PhilippeDesra PhilippeDesra | 8 months ago
I'm a 19 year old college student from South Florida. BOTH parents have been voting Democratic. I was looking into the Republican picks to challenge the current President until the RNC. My choice was Dr. Ron Paul out of those picks, and today I appreciate Ron Paul very much. I accept his choice to stay silent in his opinion on all of this so far on an election level. The ideas he spoke of mean more than his name on a ballot or on a TV commercial. In my opinion, Ron Paul = Libertarian in Republican clothes. I think, one day, in a history book somewhere he will be labeled as the man who shifted the youth at the time, some of the GOP and some Democrats to the Libertarian idea to strengthen its formation into a major party. I am a Libertarian. Ron Paul pointed me/us who caught on to his following in the right direction.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Hello PhilippeDesra, I agree with you about the history books. I would like to help write that book, son(I have a 25 yr old son who is Ron Paul or no one at all) and he already wrote him in in S. CA. Thanks for commenting.
Posted By ceetee9 ceetee9 | 8 months ago
Really? MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell said “...the presidential debates watched by 60 billion people.” LOL! Since there are only 7 billion people on the planet, I guess the other 53 billion must have been off-worlders interested in the US elections. Is there any wonder why people haven't a clue as to what is real and true? Of course, this is a fairly insignificant example and Mr. O'Donnell could have just made a “mistake” and meant to say 60 million people, but the point is the majority of the information available to the public contains half-truths, disinformation, and out-right lies designed to push some agenda. This is particularly detrimental to society (and the planet) when the garbage spewed is intended to push a political, religious, social, or scientific agenda. For the vast majority of people, those who are already aligned with the agenda have their belief systems reinforced and those who are not aligned with the agenda dismiss it out-of-hand. Neither group questions anything for fear that their belief systems may come crashing down around them should they actually challenge anything and learn that the “facts” don't support their beliefs.

The elections are a fraud and have been rigged by the elitists (i.e., the 1%) from the beginning. We don't have a democracy and never really have. We have an illusion of a democracy. There is much written on the subject for those who care to educate themselves. Here is just one of many websites that provides a quick summary of what is, and has been, going on in this country, with respect to elections, from the beginning:

http://www.conspiracywatch.net/2012/01/are-us-presidential-elections-really.html

While it is likely impossible to ascertain the whole truth about anything, those who question everything and do their homework will be far closer to the truth than those who blindly accept whatever those who they look up to say and want them to believe.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Hello Ceetee, thanks for commenting, enlightening, and educating. I'm going to that website. Appreciate your input and would love to hear who you will be voting for or because of all the corruption are you even voting?
Reply By ceetee9 ceetee9 | 8 months ago
Hi Stephanie. I wanted to write-in Ron Paul, but I couldn't get a clear answer as to whether it was even possible in Texas. So I was considering not voting for the first time, but I didn't consider what KCTed wrote and I agree with him. So I will probably vote for Mr. Johnson.

It's clear (to anyone who investigates a little) that the Republican and Democratic parties are two sides of the same coin. The candidates in both parties have been groomed, and are controlled, by TPTB. Consequently, it matters not whether you vote for Romney or Obama, both are going to do what their puppet-masters demand and the public be damned. Dr. Paul was the only candidate that, I believe, they couldn't control so they made sure he was marginalized at every turn via their media shills.

While I joined the Republican Party at 18--mostly because my father was a Republican and I respected him greatly, I've always voted for the candidate who I thought had the best ideas. Yes, I was duped like most people for a very long time. However, I've since found (over the last decade or so) that the Libertarian Party is the one most closely aligned with my values so I want to do my part to help make this party viable.
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
It sure has helped to look at what others are thinking about. We in the Liberty Movement are all asking the same thing: Who should I vote for? It is tough, but we must weigh our options, do our research, make our decision and support others who chose to make a different choice.

Great points! Ever thought about writing? Why don't you post an article? Looks like you have an article or two just in the comments. You have some excellent points that people need to hear. =)
Posted By KCTed KCTed | 8 months ago
There is a rare opportunity this year. Dr Paul has brought huge numbers of Americans to an understanding that the Republicans and Democrats are rigging everything. We sat and watched it happen in real time. Paul even said they are like a single party.

If everyone who has become aware, votes for Johnson and he gets 5%+, the LP will be elevated to Major Party Status. Three Major Parties (or maybe two, if you believe it's actually Republicrats).

Paul has stated several times that write ins have very little effect. However, a major third party is historical. You have the opportunity to cast a historical vote. It's sound political strategy and everyone in this movement should unite rather than be divided. Otherwise, what has it all been for? Rule 16, at the GOP National Convention, has slammed the door closed for any grassroots movement, forever.

The LP is the natural avenue for continuance of the movement, the party Dr Paul started in, and the party we can finish with. Let's keep this liberty train rolling. All aboard?
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Ha Ha KCTed, you have a lot boarding, but many are adamant they will still write Ron Paul in due to Johnson's fair tax plan, etc. There are some differences in the two and Johnson has some spending issues that some are concerned about. It still feels like a 50/50 split to me, but ideally we should unite, you are right! =)
Posted By jgmaynard jgmaynard | 8 months ago
I love Dr. Paul, but even more than wanting to see him in office, Gary Johnson has been the person that I most want to see in the Oval Office. I'd say I agree with Ron 95% of the time and with Gary on 98% of the issues.
If the Good Doctor had won the Republican nomination, I would be supporting him to have the biggest chance of winning. However, Ron Paul will not be on the ballot and Gary Johnson will be. That alone would make me cast my vote for Johnson.
However, what KCTed said above is right as well - a 5% showing for Johnson gives the LP major party status in all 50 states (assuming no state is so far behind that it does not qualify there) and it opens up upwards to $100M dollars or so in financing for 2016. Then, Liberty-lovers will be playing on a much more even playing field with the D's and R's in four years and it's game on!
But to make that happen, Gary needs 5% this year. I think that's a pretty worthwhile reason for any Liberty-advocate to vote for Governor Johnson.
Here's Gary's new CNN ad if anyone has not seen it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=315E990LdSU
Peace! :O)
Reply By StephEaly Stephanie Ealy | 8 months ago
Thanks jgmaynard, you make great points, but I know some will still write in Ron Paul because there is no one who could run this country better than the honest, consistent, caring RP! Thanks for the vid link! =)
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