Confidential documents obtained by Gawker show why Mitt Romney doesn't want American voters to see his tax returns. Romney tax records published by Gawker on Thursday, show...
WE are to worry more about how Romney spends his money than how Obama mis-spent BILLIONS of ours for SOLYNDRA and GM and others.
Long term capital gains are taxed far lower than short term and income. Moreover, let's see. Obama gave 0.4% to charity of his substantial income.
Romney gave 14% of his income to charity and....
Gave away his father's entire fortune to charity.
Obama lost millions of jobs during the last four years, and the ones he had created out of the 6 trillion spending spree cost $9 million each. In other words, a job that paid $18,000 cost the US taxpayer $9 million.
We call that system of business decision making OBAMANOMICS.
Romney through BAIN created tens, if not hundreds of thousands of jobs through the years and maybe lost a few thousand. Those businesses, multinationals many, are today employing tens of thousands and paying taxes...and so are their employees who are buying meals at restaurants, going on vacations, buying houses and cars - instead of Obama's minions waiting for their welfare checks and other handouts. Free health care, free whatever.
Love that word, FREE. No one pays for free. It comes from government.
For whatever it's worth, Romney's taxes, a dumb congressman's statements about rape and abortion, another's skinny dipping ARE DIVERSIONS FROM THE REAL ISSUES....
....and that is the purpose of ALL of iTobin's articles - to DIVERT you from facing the real and vital issues that a president has to deal with and this president hasn't and CANNOT deal with because he is out of his element.
This president hasn't run a business and doesn't understand business. This president had a job as a community organizer - and that was his only real job. He never even run a hot dog stand.
Accordingly he doesn't understand how economies work and neither does iTobin who likely never run a business either. It's nice to bloviate from the Cool Aid world, but a president has to live in the real one.
OBAMA'S MISERABLE PERFORMANCE AS AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT in both domestic and foreign policy is A MATTER OF RECORD.
YOU CAN SPIN IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO. The American People are coming out of Obama-induced Hypnosis of HOPE and CHANGE because tens of millions under Obama have lost ALL hope.
And even the CHANGE in their pockets.
When Bush was in office the LEFT complained about America losing respect abroad. Well, does anyone think that America, it's combined value in securities and hard assets having fallen maybe 40% under Obama, its military withdrawing and afraid to confront Iran while that nation is nuclearizing, its unemployment rate which under Bush was averaging 5.5% is now (if we count people who dropped out of looking and the 4 million who went on disability because their unemployment checks dried up) way in excess of 10%, and 20+% for minorities, is better respected abroad?
Is America respected now?
Add to this Obama's apologizing for America's existence to the Arab World, as if we invited Arab terrorists over here to murder innocent Americans.
What next? Maybe America should apologize to the 19 terrorists for our skyscrapers crashing into them on 9-11?
Most of the entities are affiliated in one way or another with Bain Capital, the private equity firm Romney ran from 1984 through 1999. According to his financial disclosures, the investments "were made pursuant to an agreement with Bain Capital regarding Romney's retirement.... The agreement has expired but [Romney] retain[s] certain investments...made prior to the expiration of the agreement." In other words, they are his retirement package from more than a decade ago, and continue to make him nearly a million (at minimum) dollars per year.
Where does it say he pays no taxes on it in the Gawker report? This is a retirement agreement with Bain Capital, which has expired. By the way the owner and editor of Gawker Nick Denton is worth around $240 million. There is nothing new about Romney and others being rich. More misinformation.
He paid NO TAXES on the IRA money. He also paid NO TAXES on the money in foreign accts because the foreign tax credit offset what he would have paid.
No one is saying what Romney did was illegal (for now) but it is very shady and shows poor character for someone who wants to hold a high public office.
You don't pay taxes on assets. You pay taxes on profits; you pay differing rates depending on the source of those profits. If they're capital gains, you pay the capital gains rate. Most of Romney's income is from sources that are naturally taxed less, without any tricks, just being knowledgeable about the tax code;
How much did you pay in federal income tax last year? Did you pay your fair share? Did you also (as Romney does) donate 30% of your income to charity?
I wonder what shady deal Geithner, Pelosi and Harry Reid were involved in. This is all hot air. If he did nothing illegal where is the story here. There isn't one.
You Progressives are still grasping at straws, aren't you... this is so totally bogus... nothing here to see... nothing new... just more Progressive lies and spin-doctoring...
The documents that Gawker "leaked" have been available for quite a while and show nothing more that was already public knowledge. It shows nothing illegal or unethical. Are you aware that money held in foreign banks is like money held in US banks. You don't pay taxes on it. You pay taxes on income. If you have income in foreign banks (offshore) almost all of them have a disclosure agreement with the US...
Here's a good article referring to Romney's tax returns... http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/23/gawkers-worthless-bain-files-2/
I'd feel bad is I'd just passed a bare-faced lie to more than 2000 people...
You have that right about disclosure agreement with the IRS. The IRS has the right to poke their face into Canadian bank accounts or anywhere else. I have a friend that has income from a Dutch family business. The IRS is making them jump through hoops.
The Gawks article even says how much income Romney makes off these investments. That is what the tax was or will be paid on. Living north of the border and having a few friends I know of these things. This is all old news and misrepresentation.
You have that right about disclosure agreement with the IRS. The IRS has the right to poke their face into Canadian bank accounts or anywhere else. I have a friend that has income from a Dutch family business. The IRS is making them jump through hoops.
The Gawks article even says how much income Romney makes off these investments. That is what the tax was or will be paid on. Living north of the border and having a few friends I know of these things. This is all old news and misrepresentation.
Romney can easily end the speculations--show us his "papers." Ordinary folks have to show more than he showed to buy a house or apply for student loans.Why is he exempt form showing us more than one year of tax returns? Republicans can spend four years on a birth certificate witch hunt but Romney's taxes should be off-limits?
For those who say his taxes do not matter I say this--yes they do--for it matters how someone who wants the American people to trust that he abides by the same rules as the rest of us, show us that he does. That he has not been engaging in fraudulent taxes practices to line his private coffers while the rest of us pay our fair share.
It's funny how the the word patriotism and "we love America" are thrown around by the likes of Mitt, but he doesn't seem to grasp the concept of what that means. Out sources his money, outsourced jobs and not one of his five sons or himself, have even been bitten by the ultimate in patriotism--serving their country in the military. Oh but I forgot--they do not have to---fighting and dying on the front lines are for those who cannot afford to avoid it. But Republicans had the nerve to try to make President Obama's lack of military service an issue.
The Holder thing is a joke and even Issa admitted it on Meet the Press. So is the Birther-poop. And don't even talk about lying - Romney wins with his TV ads that have been debunked by EVERYONE as pure lies.
The GOP has become a cult of crazy people who think women can fight off sperm with magical powers - but only if it's 'legitimate rape.' And I suppose they also believe in unicorns?
These people are delusional conspiracy theory fanatics - which is all just a bad disguise for racism. What kind of American deliberately tries to hurt the country just because a (half) black man beat them fair and square in the last election.
Money has corrupted the system on both sides, but lying, cheating and hiding your tax returns is horse poop. Obama released 8 years of tax returns. Is Romney special so he doesn't have to do the same? Why because he's white? or is there some other reason?
Typical right-wing spin. Descent in a gang of extremely loud cymbals and clang away until you drown out the opposition. Fox News is a perfect example and I've noticed something fascinating. Most right-winged commenters here use the same tactic--maybe with the exception of Karl--who though part of the misguided, doesn't resort to name calling or display any prejudicial tendencies. But it lurks just below the surface for many and is outright blatant for a few.
That's how propaganda works. I've lived through revolutions, bloody coups, invasions so I know how effective blanketing the masses with half-truths, drivel and outright delusional rhetoric work when it is done at maximum pitch and on a loop. Pollard and 100 are perfect examples of that kind of parroted verbiage. Spew as often, as repetitive,at screaming level and hope some will stick. The F Network has taught you well.
Republicans are master at that sort of game. The poor Democrats in Washington are pathetic in that arena--hence the strangle-hold they were able to impose on this administration is brilliant. This is the only election the Dems are finally learning to play by the Republicants handbook and Mittens is now crying foul.
Check out Rand loving Ryan pleading passionately for stimulus money during the Bush years. Saying how a third stimulus was needed in 2002 to jump-start the economy and create jobs. Listen to him say how unemployment and a sluggish economy linkers long after a recovery. Listen to the stunning hypocrisy and blatant partisan politics here. For he was singing a different tune when this president said the same thing. Typical shifty, shady Republican. he is the perfect running mate for the other Slim Shady Romney.
Typical right-wing spin. Descend in a gang of extremely loud cymbals and clang away until you drown out the opposition. Fox News is a perfect example and I've noticed something fascinating. Most right-winged commenters here use the same tactic--maybe with the exception of Karl--who though part of the misguided, doesn't resort to name calling or display any prejudicial tendencies. But it lurks just below the surface for many and is outright blatant for a few.
That's how propaganda works. I've lived through revolutions, bloody coups, invasions so I know how effective blanketing the masses with half-truths, drivel and outright delusional rhetoric work when it is done at maximum pitch and on a loop. Pollard and 100 are perfect examples of that kind of parroted verbiage. Spew as often, as repetitive,at screaming level and hope some will stick. The F Network has taught you well.
Republicans are master at that sort of game. The poor Democrats in Washington are pathetic in that arena--hence the strangle-hold they were able to impose on this administration is brilliant. This is the only election the Dems are finally learning to play by the Republicants rabid rules and questionable handbook--now Mittens is crying foul.Let's discuss the substantive issues, he says but he hides, flips-flops and dodge. His own party dubbed him etch-a-sketch, for goodness sakes. Why?
Check out Rand loving Ryan pleading passionately for stimulus money during the Bush years. Saying how a third stimulus was needed in 2002 to jump-start the economy and create jobs. Listen to him say how unemployment and a sluggish economy linkers long after a recovery. Listen to the stunning hypocrisy and blatant partisan politics here. For he was singing a different tune when this president said the same thing. Typical shifty, shady Republican. he is the perfect running mate for the other Slim Shady Romney.
Like Dr. King once said," there is nothing more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." I find that many who spew the right-wing propaganda fit into this category. What else could make someone not part of the one percent greed, defend it rabidly?
Veronica, with all due respect, I am a postwar child of Germany and my parents lived through the propaganda of Josef Goebbels and the Hitler regime. I think they understand propaganda full and so do I. As a Canadian soldier I was on the front line of the iron curtain, listened to the propaganda spewed by the East German regime and I have also seen what communism did to the former Yugoslavia. Believe the the 800 years of hate perpetuated there is the biggest hindrance to any sort of peace among the people.
I could take what you just wrote and replace it all with Democrat and the result would be the same and accurate. As I said before I actually watch MSNBC at times to get both sides of an issue. Everyone talks from the same song shit. Laura Ingraham is a conservative talk slut apparently, and God only knows all the things that were fabricated about Sarah Palin, but that's not a war on women. If you don't like someone's politics, it's one thing, but inventing stories about them is another.
America really needs to move forward and stop this division in order to gain political cloud and get either elected or re-elected. It is devastating on the average American, let alone to those on the outside looking in. A little bit of truth wouldn't hurt.
For your info, I have tried to help a black disabled woman in Chicago to get her veteran father buried for over a year and she has been trying for almost 20 years, reaching back to the Clinton Administration, where she was apparently promised an Arlington burial. All her pleas are falling on a deaf ear, including the Obama Administration.
Her father was part of Patton's army and ended up sitting in the back of a bus when he returned. His medals were never issued until after the man died in 1993. So I have a clue about the discrimination that took place and also see the discrimination by both sides, yes both sides. While Buckley took about three weeks to get an Arlington burial she still waits, despite of a twitter campaign, involving several hundred people and numerous articles in blogs and a couple at allvoices.
The main stream media has ignored her. So this one upsmanship doesn't resonate with me. It's time to grow up and look in the mirror America and see what you are doing to each other. In my humble opinion hate never settles anything, kindness does and I have seen enough of both. Happy Birthday to me:).
Link to Joan Flowers story on AV http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12500941-requests-for-black-soldiers-arlington-burial-go-unanswered
KarL we differ on fundamental issues but like I said-- bigotry and prejudice is not your style. My instincts tell me you're a man of integrity. My dad was one of the most honorable men I know and so is my husband so I can smell honor a mile away. Sorry for your pain, you rose above it. Thanks for your compassion--we need more of it.
But I can also smell hate and bile. I was referring to Mr.100 and especially his sidekick Pollard. he has called Michele Obama a monkey--He has called me a monkey... his aunt Jemima, go back to the plantation comments, among other offensive bias rants, were as rabidly racist as any skinhead. He has been spewing this cesspool verbiage for quite a while now--so anyone who bands together with him without calling him out when he spews, is suspect. You know what they say about great men seeing evil and doing nothing. Silence means consent or agreement in my book. We differ on many issues but the venomous crap needs to stop. Anyone who throws toxic garbage under any of my articles will be deleted or flagged.
I write to express my opinion like anyone else on AV but I'll be damned if I have to tolerate hate speech and ignorant personal attacks and biases.
That makes it easy. We can agree to disagree on fundamental issues. My family and I have been completely down and out. My dad had a terrible accident two days after he started a job in Canada. Back then there was no social safety net, such as Workmen's Compensation, which is available now. This mean that my mom ended up working in what is now considered a sweat factory, sewing. She also had two kids and a husband to look after. It meant I had to go work after school and on Saturdays. When I left school and got a full time job of my own I gave all the money I made to my family and after I went into the army I kept sending money home from the little I made as a Private. That continued until I got married.
My point is I know what it is like to be poor and to struggle to look after a family. We also have the opportunity to better ourselves.
We all have the ability to make a better life for ourselves. While I believe there needs to be a social safety net, there is only so much government can do. Government programs often are wasteful, ridden with fraud and abuse, not only by recipients but the very bureaucrats that administer them.
In Alberta we're presently in the middle of a scandal, where Alberta Health Care System bureaucrats had outrageous claims, one for $343,000 in just 18 months. The whole system seems to be corrupt, when you find out this particular individual claimed expensive wines and dinner and on one occasion the repair on his Mercedes for $1700. Those above him authorized those claims and when they quit they get $1 Million in severance along with their pension. How sick is that.
With the American government much bigger than the Alberta government you can rest assured that the same goes on in your system. Government lacks control or the will to handle the tax payers money with diligence.
On the issue of name calling, i.e. monkey or other names that doesn't need to be tolerated by anyone. I experience similar bullying and discrimination when I first arrived in Canada as a 13 year old kid. German weren't very popular after World War II to say the least. I was called a NAZI pig or displaced person and a few other choice names with the accompanying four letter words.
We all have to get along with each other, the alternative is not pretty. Therefore we need a vibrant dialogue where everyone's opinion is accepted.
There is a lot of slime in both campaigns, which is inappropriate in my opinion for either side. I understand that you have certain issues in the US that seem insurmountable, but others are really trivial.
A society needs to move forward and evolve. We have our issues in Canada toom but I certainly hope we never get to a level of discord as the one I see in the US. It just isn't healthy. Grown ups should be able to discuss issues in a reasonable way.
Ok I started babbling. I hope you understand my point.
In the middle of her comment Veronica makes some sense. In the beginning and at the end, the conclusion, she does not.
Beginning: "I grew up where indoor plumbing, bathroom, electricity etc was non-existent. Where we had to travel up and down steep hills to get something as basic and necessary as water.
Where basic food was a luxury. At eight years old, I almost died,spent a month in the hospital with typhoid fever. Basic medical care was lax. health insurance-what's that?"
Understandable. But it is not unjust. Not immoral. Not unfair. Not unusual for most of the world's population - as unbelievable as it may seem - live in conditions far worse.
Today the poor in America live better than much of the world's middle class. The middle class in the period Veronica refers to, lived like the poor live today. small apartments, small houses, 1 car and 1 TV max. No air-conditioning and only a two day supply of hard drugs.
Accordingly, while Veronica's youth is hardly enviable, white racism or whatever Veronica resurrects as the cause cannot be it. We all recognize that minorities had it harder...I rephrase that, MUCH harder than others. However there were plenty of whites and immigrants from around the world (I include myself here) who had it just as or almost as hard. I was too young, I speak for my mom.
The rich were not responsible for Veronica's parent's plight, were they? Did they cause it?
Then, if the rich were not responsible for it; why am I responsible to make you whole, for restitution, empathy, consideration? Did I cause it? Did my ancestors cause it?
Not likely, we were in Europe and my nation never had slaves...most of us were slaves.
Veronica's conclusion: "The globe is restless, not just the U.S. because these gross imbalance in wealth is growing and a roar of seismic proportions is coming if we do not adjust to the shifting sands. The present global situation is unsustainable."
The globe may be restless, indeed, we have precedent. The Nazis were restless, the communists were restless, the Occupied are restless, but now we know who all of them are and we can put two and two together and put an end to the restlessness one way or another.
Opportunity is like the flow of a river in the desert. Sometimes the riverbed dries up and we are going through a period of drought, in more ways than one. As such, opportunity has dried up during the Obama years. Which, as we all understand, is Bush's Fault. So was Napoleon's Waterloo Bush's Fault.
Among the restless Veronica, are the other political side who are armed to the teeth and are just as resentful as you are. However their resentment is aimed at yours. Who do you think will win when the natives get restless?
If any revolution is about to happen, look to the middle of America, not the hood.
Middle America, the Tea Party, are not racists. They are just sick of the racists who want special privileges for their skin color or their Politics of Envy and Resentment.
The nasty slogans you hear that you mention do not come from the rich. They come from the middle.
The middle think you need to raise yourself by your bootstraps. The reason they think that is the example set by the man whom you had voted into the White House.
He raised himself, millions of other middle class and wealthy Africans have, and a good number of these middle class and wealthy Africans pretty much agree with me.
Don't worry, babbling is my second name. Karl, our upbringing are quite similar. I grew up where indoor plumbing, bathroom, electricity etc was non-existent. Where we had to travel up and down steep hills to get something as basic and necessary as water.
Where basic food was a luxury. At eight years old, I almost died,spent a month in the hospital with typhoid fever. Basic medical care was lax. health insurance-what's that?
Where days went by with nothing but fruit for our meals. I know what it is to be dirt poor. And there was no government assistance. My dad built our house all by himself after working long hour days. He worked into the night because he wanted us to have more than a one room shack to live in.
But that upbringing, though making me strong, has also made me compassionate. Instead of teaching me we are all responsible for our lives, it taught me that sometimes hard-working people need a little assistance.
It taught me that poverty doesn't equate to laziness. I cannot subscribe to the ideology that says every man for himself. I cannot. We were poor, but my dad and mom were extremely hard working, honorable people and my dad was so tired somedays, that he could barely move..if he had a little help, he would have had to work himself to death like that.
Republicans in Washington today seems to equate poverty to laziness--with somehow not pulling up your bootstraps hard enough. What happens when one doesn't even have the proverbial boots?
This notion that the rich are somehow rich because they are more honorable--more hard-working--more productive--is misleading and dangerous.
We can't all be doctors, lawyers, CEOs or politicians. Every job done and done well,is necessary. Will the CEO clean his office, the company bathroom? My point is we are all relevant and society operates because we are all spooks its wheel...and sometimes, some among us need a little "help-up" not a "hand-out." The biggest "welfare queens" are the wealthy who benefits from a number of "government handouts."
The globe is restless, not just the U.S. because these gross imbalance in wealth is growing and a roar of seismic proportions is coming if we do not adjust to the shifting sands. The present global situation is unsustainable.
I am reading the interchange between Karl and Veronica.
I am sure both are nice people when you get down to it all.
Karl however hits on an important issue.
That is the same important issue I have hammered all along.
Veronica posts, one after another, nonsensical charges against Romney (who was by the way hardly my first choice for the Republican ticket). These charges are - by inference and smearing by a non-existent association:
1. Ryan's Plan to Throw Grandma Off the Cliff 2. A midwestern politician who has made asinine statements about rape and abortion that were (partially) taken out of context - that last is not a defense of this idiot. 3. A Republican who went skinny dipping in Israel. No mention that the president and the first lady preceding BDS - BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME - did likewise in the woods of Arkansas. 4. Romney's alleged tax cheating - this from a woman who voted for a man, now sitting in the oval office, whose Treasury Secretary and other cabinet members are ADMITTED tax cheats.
I have just given four examples of Robert's tactics and these kind of tactics, regardless her hatred of anything Republican or conservative, and support for her man who is literally destroying out nation, shows no limit. What I see in Robert's work and comments - and well written they are even if not well argued - is the irrational.
And they are hate filled and even bordering on the racist if not downright racist. In other words, what I see is a PROJECTION of characteristics she possesses projected onto those who don't possess them.
If she doesn't see it as objectively as I do, that is good.
For us, for me, but really bad for her.
In other words, moderation is maturity.
I except here the effective use of parody and sarcasm, which has a place in political commentary to make points.
The fact is that none of the listed anti-Republican and anti-Romney rants Roberts and iTobin regularly post have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ROMNEY - but EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA'S HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY and FOREIGN POLICY.
The handling of both has shown POOR RESULTS, not good ones.
Obama's handling of America's economy was predictable by those who reasonably observed:
Look, the man has no gravitas, no experience either business, management, administrative or other.
We got what we deserved. We hired a child to run the nation based on his radical-influenced political belief system.
But a man, a con man, who was able to hypnotize the immature, the naive, and the desperate to vote for him on a SLOGAN....Hope and Change. Indeed.
What is NOT a surprise then, was that the Frankfurt School of proto-Marxists landed up, natch, at Columbia University - still, today a hotbed of Marxist influences. The Frenakfurters found a welcoming audience in the highly-educated Cool Aid drinkers of uptown and downtown Manhattan. The Franfurters too, eventually disbanded, just like the ancient Illuminati, leaving us Saul Alinsky and Cloward & Piven; and then they migrated across our great nation all the way to Berkeley, taking with them the ideas of a Better World for Mankind that eventually paralleled Adolph's rise in 1933 and Lenin's in 1917 - both of whom left us with a better world.
Originally Weishaupt, the chief Illuminatist had planned the order to be named the "Perfectibilists". REF: WIKI
REF: Stauffer, Vernon (1918). New England and the Bavarian Illuminati. NY: Columbia University Press. pp. 133–134. OCLC 2342764. Retrieved 27 January 2011.
Two short comments on this matter, one from Sultan Knish, AGB's to follow....
THE WORLD OF TOMORROW by Daniel Greenfield
"The slogan under which Obama hopes to win the next four years is "Forward". "Forward" is the quintessential progressive slogan, progressives being people who are so forward-thinking that they want to remake the 21st Century in line with their 19th Century ideas. Progressivism, like so many other flavors of futurism, is so new it's old. It's the world of tomorrow as imagined by men with top hats and full beards whose Twitter-wielding descendants are still shouting, "March Forward!" at us 150 years later.
The last century has represented a great love affair with the future. A hundred years of spring cleaning accompanied by the resounding cry, "Out with the old, in with the new." Everyone is a progressive now. The one thing that all the participants in the Second World War had in common was that they were all dreaming of the FUTURE. A Thousand Year Reich, a United Nations or Communism: millions died for the sake of a wonderful future.
The Germans died for a Nazi superstate built out of Albert Speer's monstrous concrete towers of babel, a technocratic revival of Mad King Ludwig's castle building projects. The Russians died for collective agriculture and inspiring posters of grim workers hoeing the earth and electrifying the countryside. Everyone else died because they were either in the way of one vision or the other. Then they died so that a United Europe and a United Nations might usher in a better world.
The world of tomorrow has seen better days. The West is still in love with the future. If you doubt that, stop by an Apple Store and marvel at all the shiny surfaces. Try not to notice that the aesthetic is a retro futurism because even our future has become our past. Forty years after the Soviet Union tried to land a Mars rover and fifteen years since the first time we did it successfully, we landed a bigger and better rover on Mars. We may not be able to reach the ISS without taking a ride on Soviet Soyuz tubs, but the parts of NASA that aren't dedicated to proving that science and technology are burning up the planet through Global Warming, can still execute an occasional engineering triumph.
But the future is not so much a place as it is a state of mind. It is a fervent faith in the inevitability of human progress. Men have died for this faith and men are still dying for it."
"Stalin and I are the only ones who envisage the FUTURE and nothing but the FUTURE. Accordingly, I shall in a few weeks stretch out my hand to Stalin at the common German-Russian frontier and undertake the redistribution of the world with him." - Adolph Hitler [August 22, 1939]
AS YOU CAN SEE, the far extremes of the political divide ALWAYS wind up joining forces until they turn on each other and eat each other and each other's babies. Today the left joins the Islamists in their quest to UNDERTAKE THE REDISTRIBUTION OF THE WORLD against America and Israel; in the past the Nazis joined the Communists to do likewise. Barney Frank and Bernie Sanders, avowed communists both, join up with Ron Paul who is backed by Pat Buchanan and Justin Raimondo (antiwar.com) on the far right.
This is just a small insight into the reality of PROGRESSIVISM, which is a Time Machine - a bus moving FORWARD stop to stop until it returns BACKWARD at the stop behind us.
BACK TO THE FUTURE!
Its ideas are 150 years old and they have never, historically, worked IN ANY PLACE THEY WERE TRIED. They have left a swath of 100 to 300 million dead human beings in their wake.
I don't have to "think" the above to be true. I have experienced it personally and so has the next fellow whose words I post below this.
That is ALL the difference you need to know between Veronica's and iTobin's world and the Real World.
I now send you to search: Hitler's Handouts - Reason Magazine
I see no problem with RED-ISTRIBUTION, do you? - Barry Soetoro, aka Whatever
This country has gone terribly wrong and it has been led down that path by right-wing crazy people with closed minds spewing made-up stories intended to rouse the ignorant. it's working beautifully. Look at the example the GOP nut cases have set. They lie, fire division, racism, change law to discourage and encourage cheating. No wonder other countries look at us like we're nuts.
Before the T-baggers froze the govt., leaders were supposed to set a good example. Instead we have losers hiding behind the Bible who have obviously NEVER read the book. Jesus preached forgiveness and truth, yet there is none that I can see coming from GOP party leaders like Rush. He called a Sandra Fluke a whore and other nasty things - on the air. Is that Christian? Really?
Even on this thread there are comments from so-called Christian right-wingers that include name-calling and closed-minded parroting. This is what the t-baggers want. Sheep who will believe everything they say even if its a lie.
This president has been called all sorts of names and shown disrespect on more than one occasion. Not to mention the fact that the GOP has openly admitted to sabotaging the economy out of hatred for Obama. They need to grow up, stop lying and stop pretending they are the judges of the world. If they are Christians, they know that Jesus is the judge - not the Republican party.
iTobin writes: "This president has been called all sorts of names and shown disrespect on more than one occasion."
BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" ("BDS") is a pejorative political neologism coined by Charles Krauthammer, an American political columnist, Pulitzer Prize winner and former psychiatrist,[1] in a 2003 column. The term has been used in newspaper columns and editorials, on talk radio, by commentators in the mainstream press, including The Washington Post, The New York Times, and Fox News Channel, and in the blogosphere.
Meaning of term
Krauthammer defined Bush Derangement Syndrome as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush". This term is most closely associated with liberal reaction to Bush policies past and present. [2][3] While Krauthammer's column was somewhat tongue-in-cheek (e.g., "What is worrying epidemiologists about the Dean incident, however, is that heretofore no case had been reported in Vermont, or any other dairy state"), the term indicates a belief that some extreme criticisms of President Bush are of emotional origins rather than based on facts or logic. The term has been widely adopted by other writers in the political arena.[4][5][6]
BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME is pathology, for its infected were unable to reason then, and are unable to reason today. They are immune to the facts of history or facts in general. iTobin's and Robert's remarks are all the evidence any reader needs to come to a conclusion.
ODS- OBAMA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME is the opposite. It is the ability of the astute to see through the hype, con speak, articulate revisions of history, to THE EMPTY SUIT sitting on the Oval Office whose RESULTS were predictable.
They were predictable to the astute who simply observed in 2007-08 that the candidate who finally won by raising three times the amount of cash (much of it from the middle east) than his opponent, that the man who would be president has no actual business experience, no actual management experience, and no actual administrative experience. In other words, no EXECUTIVE experience - all characteristics ROMNEY has in spades.
So the results WERE predictable.
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING SLOGANS MADE BY YOURS DURING THE BUSH YEARS:
Bush Nazi - Google it. BDS went so far as to have blamed Bush for Hurricane Katrina - and failed to mention that the levies were built by Clinton.
"Bush took us into the Wrong War at the Wrong Time in the Wrong Place and for the Wrong Reasons." Sure he did!
SEE MY ARTICLE by pasting into AllVoices SEARCH the following characters:
DOD MEMO #50430
...and do actually take the time to read the words and the links supplied as evidence for the statements I had made above. I dare anyone to refute the facts in that ORIGINAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING, as opposed to the non-original work from Roberts and iTObin.
That essay completely destroys the liberal narrative about the Bush Years and corrects the history.
Accordingly, it also exposes, or at least provides clues to support the facts behind how the left came into power in the United States and it's plans to destroy the nation by overwhelming its social and economic systems. Classic Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven, these three from the Frankfurt School of "Social Reserach," all in the name of Social Justice.
RUN, readers, whenever you hear the two words SOCIAL JUSTICE!
For this survivor of the Nazis and Communists who's heard those words many times know that they are a LICENSE to LOOT!
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Than "millions"? I doubt it. It's more than 1000% larger than what 50% of the population pays...
WE are to worry more about how Romney spends his money than how Obama mis-spent BILLIONS of ours for SOLYNDRA and GM and others.
Long term capital gains are taxed far lower than short term and income. Moreover, let's see. Obama gave 0.4% to charity of his substantial income.
Romney gave 14% of his income to charity and....
Gave away his father's entire fortune to charity.
Obama lost millions of jobs during the last four years, and the ones he had created out of the 6 trillion spending spree cost $9 million each. In other words, a job that paid $18,000 cost the US taxpayer $9 million.
We call that system of business decision making OBAMANOMICS.
Romney through BAIN created tens, if not hundreds of thousands of jobs through the years and maybe lost a few thousand. Those businesses, multinationals many, are today employing tens of thousands and paying taxes...and so are their employees who are buying meals at restaurants, going on vacations, buying houses and cars - instead of Obama's minions waiting for their welfare checks and other handouts. Free health care, free whatever.
Love that word, FREE. No one pays for free. It comes from government.
For whatever it's worth, Romney's taxes, a dumb congressman's statements about rape and abortion, another's skinny dipping ARE DIVERSIONS FROM THE REAL ISSUES....
....and that is the purpose of ALL of iTobin's articles - to DIVERT you from facing the real and vital issues that a president has to deal with and this president hasn't and CANNOT deal with because he is out of his element.
This president hasn't run a business and doesn't understand business. This president had a job as a community organizer - and that was his only real job. He never even run a hot dog stand.
Accordingly he doesn't understand how economies work and neither does iTobin who likely never run a business either. It's nice to bloviate from the Cool Aid world, but a president has to live in the real one.
OBAMA'S MISERABLE PERFORMANCE AS AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT in both domestic and foreign policy is A MATTER OF RECORD.
YOU CAN SPIN IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO. The American People are coming out of Obama-induced Hypnosis of HOPE and CHANGE because tens of millions under Obama have lost ALL hope.
And even the CHANGE in their pockets.
When Bush was in office the LEFT complained about America losing respect abroad. Well, does anyone think that America, it's combined value in securities and hard assets having fallen maybe 40% under Obama, its military withdrawing and afraid to confront Iran while that nation is nuclearizing, its unemployment rate which under Bush was averaging 5.5% is now (if we count people who dropped out of looking and the 4 million who went on disability because their unemployment checks dried up) way in excess of 10%, and 20+% for minorities, is better respected abroad?
Is America respected now?
Add to this Obama's apologizing for America's existence to the Arab World, as if we invited Arab terrorists over here to murder innocent Americans.
What next? Maybe America should apologize to the 19 terrorists for our skyscrapers crashing into them on 9-11?
Where does it say he pays no taxes on it in the Gawker report? This is a retirement agreement with Bain Capital, which has expired. By the way the owner and editor of Gawker Nick Denton is worth around $240 million. There is nothing new about Romney and others being rich. More misinformation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Denton
No one is saying what Romney did was illegal (for now) but it is very shady and shows poor character for someone who wants to hold a high public office.
How much did you pay in federal income tax last year? Did you pay your fair share? Did you also (as Romney does) donate 30% of your income to charity?
You only pay taxes if you withdraw it. And only if it's taxable.
And only if you retire.
Romney is neither retired, nor about to be.
Obama is about to be.
The documents that Gawker "leaked" have been available for quite a while and show nothing more that was already public knowledge. It shows nothing illegal or unethical. Are you aware that money held in foreign banks is like money held in US banks. You don't pay taxes on it. You pay taxes on income. If you have income in foreign banks (offshore) almost all of them have a disclosure agreement with the US...
Here's a good article referring to Romney's tax returns...
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/23/gawkers-worthless-bain-files-2/
I'd feel bad is I'd just passed a bare-faced lie to more than 2000 people...
The Gawks article even says how much income Romney makes off these investments. That is what the tax was or will be paid on. Living north of the border and having a few friends I know of these things. This is all old news and misrepresentation.
The Gawks article even says how much income Romney makes off these investments. That is what the tax was or will be paid on. Living north of the border and having a few friends I know of these things. This is all old news and misrepresentation.
For those who say his taxes do not matter I say this--yes they do--for it matters how someone who wants the American people to trust that he abides by the same rules as the rest of us, show us that he does. That he has not been engaging in fraudulent taxes practices to line his private coffers while the rest of us pay our fair share.
It's funny how the the word patriotism and "we love America" are thrown around by the likes of Mitt, but he doesn't seem to grasp the concept of what that means. Out sources his money, outsourced jobs and not one of his five sons or himself, have even been bitten by the ultimate in patriotism--serving their country in the military. Oh but I forgot--they do not have to---fighting and dying on the front lines are for those who cannot afford to avoid it. But Republicans had the nerve to try to make President Obama's lack of military service an issue.
The GOP has become a cult of crazy people who think women can fight off sperm with magical powers - but only if it's 'legitimate rape.' And I suppose they also believe in unicorns?
These people are delusional conspiracy theory fanatics - which is all just a bad disguise for racism.
What kind of American deliberately tries to hurt the country just because a (half) black man beat them fair and square in the last election.
Money has corrupted the system on both sides, but lying, cheating and hiding your tax returns is horse poop. Obama released 8 years of tax returns. Is Romney special so he doesn't have to do the same? Why because he's white? or is there some other reason?
That's how propaganda works. I've lived through revolutions, bloody coups, invasions so I know how effective blanketing the masses with half-truths, drivel and outright delusional rhetoric work when it is done at maximum pitch and on a loop. Pollard and 100 are perfect examples of that kind of parroted verbiage. Spew as often, as repetitive,at screaming level and hope some will stick. The F Network has taught you well.
Republicans are master at that sort of game. The poor Democrats in Washington are pathetic in that arena--hence the strangle-hold they were able to impose on this administration is brilliant. This is the only election the Dems are finally learning to play by the Republicants handbook and Mittens is now crying foul.
Check out Rand loving Ryan pleading passionately for stimulus money during the Bush years. Saying how a third stimulus was needed in 2002 to jump-start the economy and create jobs. Listen to him say how unemployment and a sluggish economy linkers long after a recovery. Listen to the stunning hypocrisy and blatant partisan politics here. For he was singing a different tune when this president said the same thing. Typical shifty, shady Republican. he is the perfect running mate for the other Slim Shady Romney.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12813803-paul-ryan-on-stimulus-during-the-bush-years-necessary-to-create-jobs-after-a-recession-video
That's how propaganda works. I've lived through revolutions, bloody coups, invasions so I know how effective blanketing the masses with half-truths, drivel and outright delusional rhetoric work when it is done at maximum pitch and on a loop. Pollard and 100 are perfect examples of that kind of parroted verbiage. Spew as often, as repetitive,at screaming level and hope some will stick. The F Network has taught you well.
Republicans are master at that sort of game. The poor Democrats in Washington are pathetic in that arena--hence the strangle-hold they were able to impose on this administration is brilliant. This is the only election the Dems are finally learning to play by the Republicants rabid rules and questionable handbook--now Mittens is crying foul.Let's discuss the substantive issues, he says but he hides, flips-flops and dodge. His own party dubbed him etch-a-sketch, for goodness sakes. Why?
Check out Rand loving Ryan pleading passionately for stimulus money during the Bush years. Saying how a third stimulus was needed in 2002 to jump-start the economy and create jobs. Listen to him say how unemployment and a sluggish economy linkers long after a recovery. Listen to the stunning hypocrisy and blatant partisan politics here. For he was singing a different tune when this president said the same thing. Typical shifty, shady Republican. he is the perfect running mate for the other Slim Shady Romney.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12813803-paul-ryan-on-stimulus-during-the-bush-years-necessary-to-create-jobs-after-a-recession-video
Like Dr. King once said," there is nothing more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." I find that many who spew the right-wing propaganda fit into this category. What else could make someone not part of the one percent greed, defend it rabidly?
I could take what you just wrote and replace it all with Democrat and the result would be the same and accurate. As I said before I actually watch MSNBC at times to get both sides of an issue. Everyone talks from the same song shit. Laura Ingraham is a conservative talk slut apparently, and God only knows all the things that were fabricated about Sarah Palin, but that's not a war on women. If you don't like someone's politics, it's one thing, but inventing stories about them is another.
America really needs to move forward and stop this division in order to gain political cloud and get either elected or re-elected. It is devastating on the average American, let alone to those on the outside looking in. A little bit of truth wouldn't hurt.
For your info, I have tried to help a black disabled woman in Chicago to get her veteran father buried for over a year and she has been trying for almost 20 years, reaching back to the Clinton Administration, where she was apparently promised an Arlington burial. All her pleas are falling on a deaf ear, including the Obama Administration.
Her father was part of Patton's army and ended up sitting in the back of a bus when he returned. His medals were never issued until after the man died in 1993. So I have a clue about the discrimination that took place and also see the discrimination by both sides, yes both sides. While Buckley took about three weeks to get an Arlington burial she still waits, despite of a twitter campaign, involving several hundred people and numerous articles in blogs and a couple at allvoices.
The main stream media has ignored her. So this one upsmanship doesn't resonate with me. It's time to grow up and look in the mirror America and see what you are doing to each other. In my humble opinion hate never settles anything, kindness does and I have seen enough of both. Happy Birthday to me:).
Link to Joan Flowers story on AV http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12500941-requests-for-black-soldiers-arlington-burial-go-unanswered
But I can also smell hate and bile. I was referring to Mr.100 and especially his sidekick Pollard. he has called Michele Obama a monkey--He has called me a monkey... his aunt Jemima, go back to the plantation comments, among other offensive bias rants, were as rabidly racist as any skinhead. He has been spewing this cesspool verbiage for quite a while now--so anyone who bands together with him without calling him out when he spews, is suspect.
You know what they say about great men seeing evil and doing nothing. Silence means consent or agreement in my book. We differ on many issues but the venomous crap needs to stop. Anyone who throws toxic garbage under any of my articles will be deleted or flagged.
I write to express my opinion like anyone else on AV but I'll be damned if I have to tolerate hate speech and ignorant personal attacks and biases.
That makes it easy. We can agree to disagree on fundamental issues. My family and I have been completely down and out. My dad had a terrible accident two days after he started a job in Canada. Back then there was no social safety net, such as Workmen's Compensation, which is available now. This mean that my mom ended up working in what is now considered a sweat factory, sewing. She also had two kids and a husband to look after. It meant I had to go work after school and on Saturdays. When I left school and got a full time job of my own I gave all the money I made to my family and after I went into the army I kept sending money home from the little I made as a Private. That continued until I got married.
My point is I know what it is like to be poor and to struggle to look after a family. We also have the opportunity to better ourselves.
We all have the ability to make a better life for ourselves. While I believe there needs to be a social safety net, there is only so much government can do. Government programs often are wasteful, ridden with fraud and abuse, not only by recipients but the very bureaucrats that administer them.
In Alberta we're presently in the middle of a scandal, where Alberta Health Care System bureaucrats had outrageous claims, one for $343,000 in just 18 months. The whole system seems to be corrupt, when you find out this particular individual claimed expensive wines and dinner and on one occasion the repair on his Mercedes for $1700. Those above him authorized those claims and when they quit they get $1 Million in severance along with their pension. How sick is that.
With the American government much bigger than the Alberta government you can rest assured that the same goes on in your system. Government lacks control or the will to handle the tax payers money with diligence.
On the issue of name calling, i.e. monkey or other names that doesn't need to be tolerated by anyone. I experience similar bullying and discrimination when I first arrived in Canada as a 13 year old kid. German weren't very popular after World War II to say the least. I was called a NAZI pig or displaced person and a few other choice names with the accompanying four letter words.
We all have to get along with each other, the alternative is not pretty. Therefore we need a vibrant dialogue where everyone's opinion is accepted.
There is a lot of slime in both campaigns, which is inappropriate in my opinion for either side. I understand that you have certain issues in the US that seem insurmountable, but others are really trivial.
A society needs to move forward and evolve. We have our issues in Canada toom but I certainly hope we never get to a level of discord as the one I see in the US. It just isn't healthy. Grown ups should be able to discuss issues in a reasonable way.
Ok I started babbling. I hope you understand my point.
Beginning: "I grew up where indoor plumbing, bathroom, electricity etc was non-existent. Where we had to travel up and down steep hills to get something as basic and necessary as water.
Where basic food was a luxury. At eight years old, I almost died,spent a month in the hospital with typhoid fever. Basic medical care was lax. health insurance-what's that?"
Understandable. But it is not unjust. Not immoral. Not unfair. Not unusual for most of the world's population - as unbelievable as it may seem - live in conditions far worse.
Today the poor in America live better than much of the world's middle class. The middle class in the period Veronica refers to, lived like the poor live today. small apartments, small houses, 1 car and 1 TV max. No air-conditioning and only a two day supply of hard drugs.
Accordingly, while Veronica's youth is hardly enviable, white racism or whatever Veronica resurrects as the cause cannot be it. We all recognize that minorities had it harder...I rephrase that, MUCH harder than others. However there were plenty of whites and immigrants from around the world (I include myself here) who had it just as or almost as hard. I was too young, I speak for my mom.
The rich were not responsible for Veronica's parent's plight, were they? Did they cause it?
Then, if the rich were not responsible for it; why am I responsible to make you whole, for restitution, empathy, consideration? Did I cause it? Did my ancestors cause it?
Not likely, we were in Europe and my nation never had slaves...most of us were slaves.
Veronica's conclusion: "The globe is restless, not just the U.S. because these gross imbalance in wealth is growing and a roar of seismic proportions is coming if we do not adjust to the shifting sands. The present global situation is unsustainable."
The globe may be restless, indeed, we have precedent. The Nazis were restless, the communists were restless, the Occupied are restless, but now we know who all of them are and we can put two and two together and put an end to the restlessness one way or another.
Opportunity is like the flow of a river in the desert. Sometimes the riverbed dries up and we are going through a period of drought, in more ways than one. As such, opportunity has dried up during the Obama years. Which, as we all understand, is Bush's Fault. So was Napoleon's Waterloo Bush's Fault.
Among the restless Veronica, are the other political side who are armed to the teeth and are just as resentful as you are. However their resentment is aimed at yours. Who do you think will win when the natives get restless?
If any revolution is about to happen, look to the middle of America, not the hood.
Middle America, the Tea Party, are not racists. They are just sick of the racists who want special privileges for their skin color or their Politics of Envy and Resentment.
The nasty slogans you hear that you mention do not come from the rich. They come from the middle.
The middle think you need to raise yourself by your bootstraps. The reason they think that is the example set by the man whom you had voted into the White House.
He raised himself, millions of other middle class and wealthy Africans have, and a good number of these middle class and wealthy Africans pretty much agree with me.
Where basic food was a luxury. At eight years old, I almost died,spent a month in the hospital with typhoid fever. Basic medical care was lax. health insurance-what's that?
Where days went by with nothing but fruit for our meals. I know what it is to be dirt poor. And there was no government assistance. My dad built our house all by himself after working long hour days. He worked into the night because he wanted us to have more than a one room shack to live in.
But that upbringing, though making me strong, has also made me compassionate. Instead of teaching me we are all responsible for our lives, it taught me that sometimes hard-working people need a little assistance.
It taught me that poverty doesn't equate to laziness. I cannot subscribe to the ideology that says every man for himself. I cannot. We were poor, but my dad and mom were extremely hard working, honorable people and my dad was so tired somedays, that he could barely move..if he had a little help, he would have had to work himself to death like that.
Republicans in Washington today seems to equate poverty to laziness--with somehow not pulling up your bootstraps hard enough. What happens when one doesn't even have the proverbial boots?
This notion that the rich are somehow rich because they are more honorable--more hard-working--more productive--is misleading and dangerous.
We can't all be doctors, lawyers, CEOs or politicians. Every job done and done well,is necessary. Will the CEO clean his office, the company bathroom? My point is we are all relevant and society operates because we are all spooks its wheel...and sometimes, some among us need a little "help-up" not a "hand-out." The biggest "welfare queens" are the wealthy who benefits from a number of "government handouts."
The globe is restless, not just the U.S. because these gross imbalance in wealth is growing and a roar of seismic proportions is coming if we do not adjust to the shifting sands. The present global situation is unsustainable.
Now I'm babbling.
I am sure both are nice people when you get down to it all.
Karl however hits on an important issue.
That is the same important issue I have hammered all along.
Veronica posts, one after another, nonsensical charges against Romney (who was by the way hardly my first choice for the Republican ticket). These charges are - by inference and smearing by a non-existent association:
1. Ryan's Plan to Throw Grandma Off the Cliff
2. A midwestern politician who has made asinine statements about rape and abortion that were (partially) taken out of context - that last is not a defense of this idiot.
3. A Republican who went skinny dipping in Israel. No mention that the president and the first lady preceding BDS - BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME - did likewise in the woods of Arkansas.
4. Romney's alleged tax cheating - this from a woman who voted for a man, now sitting in the oval office, whose Treasury Secretary and other cabinet members are ADMITTED tax cheats.
I have just given four examples of Robert's tactics and these kind of tactics, regardless her hatred of anything Republican or conservative, and support for her man who is literally destroying out nation, shows no limit. What I see in Robert's work and comments - and well written they are even if not well argued - is the irrational.
And they are hate filled and even bordering on the racist if not downright racist. In other words, what I see is a PROJECTION of characteristics she possesses projected onto those who don't possess them.
If she doesn't see it as objectively as I do, that is good.
For us, for me, but really bad for her.
In other words, moderation is maturity.
I except here the effective use of parody and sarcasm, which has a place in political commentary to make points.
The fact is that none of the listed anti-Republican and anti-Romney rants Roberts and iTobin regularly post have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ROMNEY - but EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA'S HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY and FOREIGN POLICY.
The handling of both has shown POOR RESULTS, not good ones.
Obama's handling of America's economy was predictable by those who reasonably observed:
Look, the man has no gravitas, no experience either business, management, administrative or other.
We got what we deserved. We hired a child to run the nation based on his radical-influenced political belief system.
But a man, a con man, who was able to hypnotize the immature, the naive, and the desperate to vote for him on a SLOGAN....Hope and Change. Indeed.
What is NOT a surprise then, was that the Frankfurt School of proto-Marxists landed up, natch, at Columbia University - still, today a hotbed of Marxist influences. The Frenakfurters found a welcoming audience in the highly-educated Cool Aid drinkers of uptown and downtown Manhattan. The Franfurters too, eventually disbanded, just like the ancient Illuminati, leaving us Saul Alinsky and Cloward & Piven; and then they migrated across our great nation all the way to Berkeley, taking with them the ideas of a Better World for Mankind that eventually paralleled Adolph's rise in 1933 and Lenin's in 1917 - both of whom left us with a better world.
Originally Weishaupt, the chief Illuminatist had planned the order to be named the "Perfectibilists". REF: WIKI
REF: Stauffer, Vernon (1918). New England and the Bavarian Illuminati. NY: Columbia University Press. pp. 133–134. OCLC 2342764. Retrieved 27 January 2011.
THE WORLD OF TOMORROW
by Daniel Greenfield
"The slogan under which Obama hopes to win the next four years is "Forward". "Forward" is the quintessential progressive slogan, progressives being people who are so forward-thinking that they want to remake the 21st Century in line with their 19th Century ideas. Progressivism, like so many other flavors of futurism, is so new it's old. It's the world of tomorrow as imagined by men with top hats and full beards whose Twitter-wielding descendants are still shouting, "March Forward!" at us 150 years later.
The last century has represented a great love affair with the future. A hundred years of spring cleaning accompanied by the resounding cry, "Out with the old, in with the new." Everyone is a progressive now. The one thing that all the participants in the Second World War had in common was that they were all dreaming of the FUTURE. A Thousand Year Reich, a United Nations or Communism: millions died for the sake of a wonderful future.
The Germans died for a Nazi superstate built out of Albert Speer's monstrous concrete towers of babel, a technocratic revival of Mad King Ludwig's castle building projects. The Russians died for collective agriculture and inspiring posters of grim workers hoeing the earth and electrifying the countryside. Everyone else died because they were either in the way of one vision or the other. Then they died so that a United Europe and a United Nations might usher in a better world.
The world of tomorrow has seen better days. The West is still in love with the future. If you doubt that, stop by an Apple Store and marvel at all the shiny surfaces. Try not to notice that the aesthetic is a retro futurism because even our future has become our past. Forty years after the Soviet Union tried to land a Mars rover and fifteen years since the first time we did it successfully, we landed a bigger and better rover on Mars. We may not be able to reach the ISS without taking a ride on Soviet Soyuz tubs, but the parts of NASA that aren't dedicated to proving that science and technology are burning up the planet through Global Warming, can still execute an occasional engineering triumph.
But the future is not so much a place as it is a state of mind. It is a fervent faith in the inevitability of human progress. Men have died for this faith and men are still dying for it."
"Stalin and I are the only ones who envisage the FUTURE and nothing but the FUTURE. Accordingly, I shall in a few weeks stretch out my hand to Stalin at the common German-Russian frontier and undertake the redistribution of the world with him." - Adolph Hitler [August 22, 1939]
AS YOU CAN SEE, the far extremes of the political divide ALWAYS wind up joining forces until they turn on each other and eat each other and each other's babies. Today the left joins the Islamists in their quest to UNDERTAKE THE REDISTRIBUTION OF THE WORLD against America and Israel; in the past the Nazis joined the Communists to do likewise. Barney Frank and Bernie Sanders, avowed communists both, join up with Ron Paul who is backed by Pat Buchanan and Justin Raimondo (antiwar.com) on the far right.
This is just a small insight into the reality of PROGRESSIVISM, which is a Time Machine - a bus moving FORWARD stop to stop until it returns BACKWARD at the stop behind us.
BACK TO THE FUTURE!
Its ideas are 150 years old and they have never, historically, worked IN ANY PLACE THEY WERE TRIED. They have left a swath of 100 to 300 million dead human beings in their wake.
I don't have to "think" the above to be true. I have experienced it personally and so has the next fellow whose words I post below this.
That is ALL the difference you need to know between Veronica's and iTobin's world and the Real World.
I now send you to search: Hitler's Handouts - Reason Magazine
I see no problem with RED-ISTRIBUTION, do you? - Barry Soetoro, aka Whatever
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/economic_inequality_is_a_small_price_to_pay_for_staying_human.html
Before the T-baggers froze the govt., leaders were supposed to set a good example. Instead we have losers hiding behind the Bible who have obviously NEVER read the book.
Jesus preached forgiveness and truth, yet there is none that I can see coming from GOP party leaders like Rush. He called a Sandra Fluke a whore and other nasty things - on the air. Is that Christian? Really?
Even on this thread there are comments from so-called Christian right-wingers that include name-calling and closed-minded parroting. This is what the t-baggers want. Sheep who will believe everything they say even if its a lie.
This president has been called all sorts of names and shown disrespect on more than one occasion. Not to mention the fact that the GOP has openly admitted to sabotaging the economy out of hatred for Obama. They need to grow up, stop lying and stop pretending they are the judges of the world. If they are Christians, they know that Jesus is the judge - not the Republican party.
BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" ("BDS") is a pejorative political neologism coined by Charles Krauthammer, an American political columnist, Pulitzer Prize winner and former psychiatrist,[1] in a 2003 column. The term has been used in newspaper columns and editorials, on talk radio, by commentators in the mainstream press, including The Washington Post, The New York Times, and Fox News Channel, and in the blogosphere.
Meaning of term
Krauthammer defined Bush Derangement Syndrome as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush". This term is most closely associated with liberal reaction to Bush policies past and present. [2][3] While Krauthammer's column was somewhat tongue-in-cheek (e.g., "What is worrying epidemiologists about the Dean incident, however, is that heretofore no case had been reported in Vermont, or any other dairy state"), the term indicates a belief that some extreme criticisms of President Bush are of emotional origins rather than based on facts or logic. The term has been widely adopted by other writers in the political arena.[4][5][6]
BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME is pathology, for its infected were unable to reason then, and are unable to reason today. They are immune to the facts of history or facts in general. iTobin's and Robert's remarks are all the evidence any reader needs to come to a conclusion.
ODS- OBAMA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME is the opposite. It is the ability of the astute to see through the hype, con speak, articulate revisions of history, to THE EMPTY SUIT sitting on the Oval Office whose RESULTS were predictable.
They were predictable to the astute who simply observed in 2007-08 that the candidate who finally won by raising three times the amount of cash (much of it from the middle east) than his opponent, that the man who would be president has no actual business experience, no actual management experience, and no actual administrative experience. In other words, no EXECUTIVE experience - all characteristics ROMNEY has in spades.
So the results WERE predictable.
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING SLOGANS MADE BY YOURS DURING THE BUSH YEARS:
Bush Nazi - Google it.
BDS went so far as to have blamed Bush for Hurricane Katrina - and failed to mention that the levies were built by Clinton.
"Bush took us into the Wrong War at the Wrong Time in the Wrong Place and for the Wrong Reasons." Sure he did!
SEE MY ARTICLE by pasting into AllVoices SEARCH the following characters:
DOD MEMO #50430
...and do actually take the time to read the words and the links supplied as evidence for the statements I had made above. I dare anyone to refute the facts in that ORIGINAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING, as opposed to the non-original work from Roberts and iTObin.
That essay completely destroys the liberal narrative about the Bush Years and corrects the history.
Accordingly, it also exposes, or at least provides clues to support the facts behind how the left came into power in the United States and it's plans to destroy the nation by overwhelming its social and economic systems. Classic Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven, these three from the Frankfurt School of "Social Reserach," all in the name of Social Justice.
RUN, readers, whenever you hear the two words SOCIAL JUSTICE!
For this survivor of the Nazis and Communists who's heard those words many times know that they are a LICENSE to LOOT!
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