Romney muddles facts on his Medicare plan
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Romney muddles facts on his Medicare plan

The Villages : FL : USA | Aug 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM PDT
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Rachel Maddow Kills the Romney/Ryan Medicare Lie Dead In its Tracks

Mitt Romney is sending out his message on Medicare reform to voters. The problem is, it's not accurate.

In a podcast Saturday on the Romney campaign website, the 2012 presidential hopeful told Americans that Obamacare had taken $716 billion from the Medicare fund to finance “his takeover of the health care system.”

In truth, the Obama cuts to the Medicare budget are aimed at reducing provider fraud, waste, and abuse. Nothing in Obamacare scales back benefits for seniors. Obamacare actually adds benefits like preventive screenings at no charge to the patient.

Romney also resurrected the scare tactic of death panels, which was untrue when Sarah Palin used that line of attack, and equally true with Romney's use of it.

Romney accused Obama of denying elderly Americans "the care they've worked for their entire lives, all because President Obama trusts bureaucrats more than he trusts seniors and their doctors," a line repeated in a new Romney-Ryan campaign ad.

However, a Romney administration repeal of Obamacare would actually cut benefits to seniors right away, not 10 years from now, by eliminating the free health screenings covered in Obamacare, along with some prescription drug benefits.

Neither Romney nor Obama deny that their plans for Medicare are very different.

Obama wants to keep the current, government-administered Medicare program and focus cost reduction efforts on controlling waste and abuse from health care providers. The Romney-Ryan plan phases out government involvement in Medicare guarantees and puts seniors in the hands of private insurance companies. A voucher system, Romney calls "premium support," is like a co-pay from the government, to help offset the cost of health insurance premiums for seniors. Vouchers would be paid directly to one of the insurance companies on a list of approved insurers.

The Economic Policy Journal explains in simple terms how the Romney-Ryan Medicare overhaul would work. "For Americans currently under 55, his plan will give them a health insurance voucher as high as $8,000 per year. Government will get to decide what insurance companies are eligible to accept the vouchers. Ryan says all the major health insurers will be approved and accept the vouchers. Guess what that means?"

Limiting seniors to a list of approved insurance companies leaves the door wide open to corruption and price-fixing on the part of insurance companies. Much like a kick-back, which is currently illegal, health insurance companies could exchange the promise of campaign donations for a spot on the list of approved government provider companies.

What the Romney campaign has also failed to acknowledge is what happens when the voucher system kicks in? Will parents be expected to help their children financially if the vouchers are not enough to buy health insurance?

What may sound good to some voters on the campaign trail and in TV commercials does not necessarily reflect the truth. This is a hotly contested presidential race and both sides may be tempted to try to woo voters with false and misleading information.

If the details of Medicare reform make your head spin, there is an easier way to syphon through the rhetoric. For the most part, Democrats, who created Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, are more likely to work harder at keeping the programs solvent and intact.

Republicans, on the other hand, have historically opposed entitlement programs. They have made numerous attempts to dismantle and/or privatize Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare in the past, and are not ashamed to admit that getting rid of the programs completely is their ultimate goal.

"It only took two hours after the Paul Ryan vice presidential announcement for Republican congressional candidates to get their talking points on how to spin the Ryan budget and Medicare attacks," according to Politico.

Republicans were advised not to use the words, "entitlement reform," "privatization," or "every option is on the table."

Instead, the National Republican Congressional Committee said in an email memo reported in Politico, to use the words "strengthen, secure, save, preserve, and protect.”

Whether the words are true appears to be irrelevant. In an election year, no one who expects to win would dare tell seniors that they intend to take away their Medicare.

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Posted By Punditty Punditty | 9 months ago
Maryann,

This is a very good analysis of what the Romney-Ryan plan would do, in a way that anyone can understand. Of course they want the vouchers to be exclusive to a list of approved providers only - talk about *limiting* health care choices.

The full effects of Obamacare in our personal lives remain to be seen, and if Romney is to be believed, they won't be seen for long if he & Ryan get elected. But as you so clearly state, they won't get elected if people knew what they really want to do with Medicare.
Reply By agb100 agb100 | 7 months ago
What they really want to do is this:



Medicare and Social Security are not ENTITLEMENT programs, and the Romney camp does not treat either as. Actuarially however, they BECOME entitlements when, for example, Medicare payouts have risen 65% over four years under Obama....where pay-ins for participants are $100,000 and pay-outs (that's what the rest of us pay for) are $300,000.

As both sides of the political spectrum are saying: Follow the MATH!

We have.

Medicare right now, needs reform.

Medicare as it is constituted today is unsustainable - meaning it will go broke, eventually paying out nothing because it CANNOT pay out what it doesn't have in reserve - or it will not be funded. How will it not be funded? The will of future workers who won't want to pay for it, that's how! Note that Congress has its own retirement plan - and congressment/senators are not dependent on Medicare. Or Social Security.

What does that mean? The politicians opposed to reform - the Democrats - are concerned with one thing and one thing only: votes and their hold on power. Not you!

Tomorrow Social Security will need reform.

One cannot remove $716,000,000,000 from an already insolvent Medicare ENTITLEMENT reserve on the backs of future generations that won't be able to pay, or will find the political means (a NO vote) not to pay, and expect to resolve the problem.

One party that has taken out the aforementioned sum to fund another universal health care program 70% of the American People are against to this day; and the other party that demands to set aside the very same $716 billion in a trust fund to fund Medicare so that, unlike what happened under Democrats to Social Security - see below, Medicare funds are kept SEPARATE from general reserve that pay, for example, for highway construction and bailouts for Solyndra and GM. The same GM that sold 79% of its production to...

Obama's government. That's the GM that you, dear taxpayer, saved.

By taking Medicare funds and setting them aside from whatever, or for example saving it from Obamacare, Medicare cannot be spent for anything other than...MEDICARE.

What a NOVEL idea!

And Paul Ryan must be evil for even suggesting it.

Well, maybe for those who think stealing three quarters of a trillion dollars from Medicare improves Madicare, maybe it's so.

On this planet though, setting aside money for its intended purpose makes sense - to sensible people.

PS.

1. The funds collected for social security become general reserves - as pursuant to changes in law, courtesy of the Democratic Party. Meaning there is no TRUST FUND

2. The payouts for social security are the government's property - not the employee's (or yours) - as pursuant to changes in law, courtesy of the Democratic Party

3. Social Security becomes a tax, from what was once an insurance program with trust provisions - as pursuant to changes in law, courtesy of the Democratic Party

4. Social Security taxes convey no contractual rights to Social Security benefits as of Dec 12, 1985 – as pursuant to changes in law, courtesy of the Democratic Party

5. The government, under law, is NOT obligated to pay out social security benefits to recipients - as pursuant to changes in law, courtesy of the Democratic Party

6. The government now taxes social security payouts - as pursuant to changes in law, courtesy of the Democratic Party

Clear enough friends?

What the government - Democrats - have done to social security - they are doing to Medicare.

Not maybe. For sure. Beware of what you buy.
Posted By itobin53 itobin53 | 9 months ago
the devil really is in the details and that's why Romney/Ryan will not talk about them. It's easier to lie. People are easily fooled.

Also notice the very strong and violent words Romney uses to describe Obama ..."takeover" and "deny." They are meant more to scare than explain.
Posted By prabirghose prabirghose | 9 months ago
thanks for sharing the analysis .. politics is a dirty game with no-holds-barred ... it is all about trying to prove ones supremacy and going one-up on the opponent ... there is very little scope for niceties ..
Posted By DavaCastillo Dava Castillo | 9 months ago
Thanks for the article itobin.

For me the facts are not muddled. They are extremely clear. Voters are either for or against privatization, i.e., vouchers for Medicare and ultimately all government services because that's what will happen if Republicans have their way. And why not? It favors corporations and investors. There are no benefits to consumers to be at the mercy of insurance companies. It will be a race to the bargain basement of insurance providers.

There is also the risk of allowing purchasing of health insurance across state lines, which would further deteriorate the high standards insurance companies are required by law to provide to consumers through policy regulations if they want to sell insurance in states like California. There are approximately 35 requirements health insurance companies have to provide here versus some states that only have five or six requirements.
Posted By itobin53 itobin53 | 9 months ago
Debt is being used as a scare tactic by republicans for just about everything - except allowing millionaires to pay ZERO taxes - according to the Romney-Ryan plan. Why aren't more voters questioning the logic behind REDUCING revenue for the rich as a way to decrease the deficit? Do none of theses people own a calculator?
Reply By firesisle Hardy Wright | 9 months ago
Mary Ann,
Debt isn't a scare tactic, it's the real deal, to anyone who actually understands the big picture. You don't care, so it doesn't really man anything to you. You don't understand how it works, so you'd rather regurgitate information you don't comprehend.

Continue in ignorance, or get educated... your choice.

The truth is you don't want to know, because the real truth would go directly against your ideology, which blinds you to everything else.
Reply By agb100 agb100 | 7 months ago
First comes the idea.
Then the ideology is woven around the idea.
Then a narrative is created, like layers of an onion, to support the ideology, because without the ideology the idea won't stand on its own.
As better intellects unpeel the onion, they find the ideology built around the idea.
Thus the ideology can be attacked and crushed, leaving the idea that cannot support itself for it is typically based on a false premise.
It's not my job to teach classes in logic or history however.
Posted By firesisle Hardy Wright | 9 months ago
"In a podcast Saturday on the Romney campaign website, the 2012 presidential hopeful told Americans that Obamacare had taken $716 billion from the Medicare fund to finance 'his takeover of the health care system.'”

Verified in this sound byte:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCEgidipc5g

"In truth, the Obama cuts to the Medicare budget are aimed at reducing provider fraud, waste, and abuse. Nothing in Obamacare scales back benefits for seniors. Obamacare actually adds benefits like preventive screenings at no charge to the patient."

In truth, there are less statistics verifying provider fraud, waste, and abuse than there are to validate voter fraud... you won't support picture ID's for voters, yet are ready to support a $7-billion rip off of Medicare. I'd call that situational ethics...

The only people doing any muddling are the Democrats, and it's not muddling, it's bare-faced lying.
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