Obamacare individual mandate: tax or penalty?
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Obamacare individual mandate: tax or penalty?

Washington : DC : USA | Jul 02, 2012 at 4:28 PM PDT
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Romney spokesman calls individual mandate a penalty

In the aftermath of Thursday’s Supreme Court decision to uphold the individual mandate in the Affordable Care Act, also called Obamacare, Democrats and Republicans have been waging a war of words on whether the provision involves a tax or a penalty.

The confusion appears to reside in the way Chief Justice John Roberts legally classified the individual mandate provision. By the letter of the law, the individual mandate could only be allowed to stand as a tax. But it does not fit the usual definition of a tax because it is not based on income or earnings.

In an MSNBC interview with "Daily Rundown" host Chuck Todd on Monday, Mitt Romney’s senior advisor, Eric Fehrnstrom, agreed that the individual mandate fee was not a tax. Fehrnstrom said it was a penalty to be paid only by those who could afford to buy health insurance but choose not to.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed. “It’s a penalty that comes under the tax code for the 1 percent, perhaps, of the population who may decide that they’re going to be free riders. But most people are not affected by that,” Ms. Pelosi said. “It’s not a tax on the — it’s a penalty for free riders,” according to the New York Times.

Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney is in a tough spot when it comes to the health care issue. The individual mandate in Obamacare was patterned after the same provision in the health care reform law Romney implemented in 2006, while governor of Massachusetts. Romneycare also imposes a penalty on those who decide against buying of health insurance, even though they can afford it.

“One of the few individuals who worked on health care reform under both Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama said on Friday that the controversial individual mandate provision was virtually identical in the bills signed into law by each of them,” according to the Huffington Post.

Support for Obamacare is growing now that the law has been upheld. And while Mitt Romney says he would try to repeal it if elected president, Romneycare has been working well in Massachusetts. More than 98% of the population there is now covered by affordable health insurance policies.

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick said, “Here in Massachusetts for the last six years using a model just like national health care reform, the Affordable Care Act, we have reached 99.8 percent of children, over 98 percent of our overall population with insurance. We are healthier by any number of measures, the cost of health care has come down on a per capita basis, it has not busted the budget. There are more businesses offering insurance to their employees today than before health insurance went into effect, so all the list of horrors that Gov. Romney talked about, that the congressional Republicans have talked about were not actually reality here in Massachusetts where we have tried that.” According to ajc.

It’s hard for the Republicans to make a solid argument against Obamacare when it has been so successfully implemented on the state level. It’s even harder for Romney to distance himself from his signature achievement as governor of Massachusetts.

Despite the complaints from Republicans on Obamacare, there have been no details on what it would be replaced with if repealed.

However, the Ryan budget, which Mitt Romney supports, actually eliminates Medicare, replacing it with a voucher system that makes partial premium payments to profit-driven insurance companies. Such a policy could add millions more elderly Americans to the ranks of the uninsured, making the health care crisis worse, not better.

Some Obamacare supporters believe that Medicare-for-all is the solution to America’s health care crisis. The government run program enjoys overwhelming support from participants, and it operates with lower costs than for-profit health insurance plans.

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Posted By VoiceforHope Amee Ellsworth | 11 months ago
This is a great report! Thanks! Shared and rated up.
Posted By albertacowpoke Karl Gotthardt | 11 months ago
As a Canadian I support universal health care and consider it a right of every citizen. Having said that, President Obama could have taken a page out of Canada's National Health Care Act, which mandates Provinces (equivalent to your states) the minimum they must provide. Provinces are allocated funds from the feds to administer their provincial health care programs. While not everything is perfect, it meets the needs of most people.

Having looked at the Affordable Health Care Act, which nobody has read in detail, including the Supreme Court, I suspect, it has created a bureaucracy of its own, with HHS a non-elected cabinet member calling all the shots. Therein lies the problem.

Insurance companies still provide the insurance coverage and I suspect will have the say on what and what doctors can and cannot provide,including necessary tests. Depending on how many people fall below whatever the given income threshold is, the cost of health care can escalate significantly. As an example in Canada health care costs make up in excess of 40% of the federal and provincial budgets.

In Alberta the cost is covered through a combination of taxes and oil revenues. Recently Alberta authorized sex change operations as part of health care coverage. In other provinces they struggle for revenues to cover the funding of health care, some of which are covered through transfers to have not provinces from have provinces.

All this to say that jury on Obamacare is still out. Courageous lawmakers would have gone for the whole meal deal instead of half measures, which will still make the insurance companies rich.

One way to have fixed the health care problem would have been for lawmakers to get the same coverage as every other American. I think that would have compelled them to come up with something better.
Posted By mehulmakwana mehulmakwana | 11 months ago
The individual mandate could only be allowed to stand as a tax. By http://indianofs.blogspot.in
Posted By irvincohen irvincohen | 11 months ago
Dear Obama, leftwing acolytes,

It is exceedingly ironic and rather humorous to me, to now see those who previously, consistently bashed and decried this supposedly “right wing” court; are now so favorable, in almost gushing terms, and so very vigorous in their defense of its chief architect, Chief Justice Roberts. Does apologism through utter, naked self-serving hypocrisy ring a bell with anyone?

Alas Doc Vega,

I too find Roberts’ decision reprehensible and his reasoning to be utterly twisted, illogical and shallow, and more importantly, utterly contradictory and hypocritical. But sadly I must also admit and advise that the “t” word, “treason” is rather over the top. Otherwise, everything else you say are points well taken and well made.

And oh BTW, dear fellow Allvoices commenters, if you’d like to see my take on this, I also have posted a very, very, very short article on this subject: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12509240-is-it-a-tax-or-a-penalty.

Irv,
Reply By itobin53 itobin53 | 11 months ago
I would rather be called a "leftwing acolyte" than conservative. They are getting quite a reputation for being self-serving and anti-American.
Posted By Don17000 Don17000 | 11 months ago
I consider it to be a tax, because it is to be paid on one's tax return, and it is computed as a percentage of one's income up to a set maximum. If a "tax credit" is a decrease in one's tax based upon one's choice to do something (get married, have a child, buy a house, build affordable housing, etc.) then this is the antipodal opposite, something of a "tax debit," which increases one's taxes based upon something you chose not to do.

I applaud the court's majority, which decided to fulfill its mission and decide if Congress *does* have this power, rather than the minority who thought the question they were to resolve was whether Congress *should* have this power.
Reply By firesisle Hardy Wright | 11 months ago
The Supreme Court decided the Congress does not have the power under the commerce clause. They've always had the power to tax; noting new there, except that now no semantic gymnastics will allow it to be anything else.
Posted By irvincohen irvincohen | 11 months ago
Dear Don1700,

Your last paragraph seems to contradict your first "graf." Your conclusion seems to be yet another piece of twisted logic. Oh, wait a minute, "Twisted Logic" - isn't that a punk rock band?

Irv,
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