Republican senator pushes 'Stand Your Ground' bill in NY; residents say 'not in our state'
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Republican senator pushes 'Stand Your Ground' bill in NY; residents say 'not in our state'

New York City : NY : USA | Apr 24, 2012 at 5:48 AM PDT
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NYers say no to Stand Your Ground law

The "Stand Your Ground" law now on the books in 24 States was relatively obscure to the rest of the U.S. until it exploded on the national stage after the shooting death of an unarmed teenager in Florida.

17-year-old Trayvon Martin's death at the hands of 28-year-old George Zimmerman in Sanford on Feb. 26, woke up America and shone a glaring spotlight on a law many say is dangerous.

The neighborhood watchman was able to avoid being arrested and charged for almost two months, protected by Florida's Stand Your Ground law, for he claimed he shot the teenager at close range with a single hollow point bullet to the chest, in self-defense.

Millions argued that it couldn't be self-defense if he stalked the teen, disregarding the 911 operator's admonishment not to follow Trayvon, who was walking home form the corner 7-Eleven store with candy and a drink.

Zimmerman said he had no choice but to kill the young man because he was attacked. Others argued: But what about Trayvon's right to stand his ground?

It's this "he said, she said" grey area that many critics of the law say creates the dangerous situations and New Yorkers say they do not want this law in their neck of the woods. In an urban environment, with crime already concentrated, adding this controversial legislation will only exacerbate the danger.

But Republican State Senator George Maziarz, representing the 62nd District, doesn't see it this way and is pushing full steam ahead with his bill to introduce this highly contentious law to New York. Critics credit the corporate lobbying group ALEC for producing the model by which Stand Your Ground is based.

President George Greshem and more than a million people over at the Working Peoples Party (WFP) say they are not having it and have taken a stand against "Stand Your Ground." They have created an online petition and want everyone who feels strongly about this bill being wrong for New York, to click on the link below to sign.

Sign our petition calling on Senator Maziarz to withdraw this dangerous legislation.

"We’re asking Senator Maziarz to withdraw the bill. Common sense, and common decency, require that he do so," writes Gresham in an email to me this week.

Maziarz, defending his position on the issue, had this to say to wgrz.com:

"Individuals, in their homes, on their own property, in their cars, have every right to protect themselves, now if they feel threatened, legitimately threatened. They have a right to protect themselves, this law is not about protecting vigilantes, or people who take the law into their own hands."

The Senator had tried to push through a similar bill in 2008 but it died a swift death. If inacted, this new legislation will amend article 35 of the new York State Penal Law. Senate Democrats and New Yorkers Against Gun Violence (NYAGV) are also pushing back hard against Maxiarz's Bill.

Before Florida's former governor Jeb Bush signed Stand Your Ground into law in 2005, State Sen. Steve Geller reportedly said this in opposition of the proposal, " "I don't think you ought to be able to kill people that are walking toward you on the street because of this subjective belief that you're worried that they may get in a fight with you."

ALEC and the NRA proved too strong in Florida, but New Yorkers say they are not going down without a vicious fight - a fight to keep some sanity in their cities, boroughs and counties.

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Posted By TruthSeeker427 TruthSeeker427 | about 1 year ago
The SYG law sends a very clear message .

Do not try and hurt any Floridian,..FS-776.32

Surprisingly,the criminals never read the law for the last 7 years,
they just heard about it,and went -"What" we might get shot robben and thugen",..
-"we need to change that law",..

No WE need to tell all of them to fear it,...
They don't fear victims they kill them,
Thugs don't fear Cops they shoot them ,
They don't fear prison,all there friends are there.
Seems this law does make them afraid.
Its a great law for the Good people.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
As I told a like-minded "commenter," let's hope you don't stare down the barrel of a gun while the the person at the other end claim to feel threatened as they stood their ground.
Posted By dhreff dhreff | about 1 year ago
Veronica, there a need to punctuate such law for 24 states and no more and then, abolish the it as its continued implementation will only bring lawlessness to America. Rate you up.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
Thanks. It all about the almighty dollar Dhreff....guns are very lucrative.
Posted By VoiceforHope Amee Ellsworth | about 1 year ago
Thank you for this report. Rated up!
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
Thanks Amee--appreciate the kudos.
Posted By itobin53 itobin53 | about 1 year ago
aren't there enough people in jersey with guns already? why give them an excuse to shoot them more.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
I guess we all should go out and arm ourselves. See what happens. These gun lobbyist and corrupt politicians in Washington know this is not going to curb crime--it is about greed. Guns are big money business in this here U.S. of A.
Posted By Alqimist Alqimist | about 1 year ago
I've never cared much for Springfield Arms. That's why I carry a Glock 27.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
Be care you don't find yourself staring down the barrel of a Glock 27 one day as someone else "Stands Their Ground."
Posted By Gigi72 Gigi72 | about 1 year ago
Good for New York. Laws like this only serve to turn police wannabees into vigilantes. People have and will continue to abuse laws like Stand Your Ground in order to get away with murder, instead of what the laws were written for, to defend people against lawsuits when they have to defend themselves against an aggressor.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
we have enough gun laws so we certainly don't need another especially one as ambiguous as this.
Posted By hdcase hdcase | about 1 year ago
And disarming law abiding citizens lets criminals know that they can attack them without fear.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
Fighting this dangerous piece of legislation does not disarm anyone. In fact the American public is more armed now than the Wild Wild West pioneer days!The laws already on the books across the country do not need bolstering. the 2nd amendment is firmly in place--the powerful NRA, ALEC and their Republican friends in Washington are making sure of that.
Posted By TruthSeeker427 TruthSeeker427 | about 1 year ago
How to prevent physical violence:
Police don't prevent violence. They enforce laws.
Laws don't prevent violence. They only suggest jail time after the violence.

So what can prevent physical violence being committed on you?
your MP3, your phone, your keys,your money,your driver licence,...
none of these tools will prevent your being a victim,..

But a small legally concealed carry handgun will prevent you being hurt or killed,...
Why is this truth so hard to accept,..
Reply By hdcase hdcase | about 1 year ago
Every day in America, handguns are legally used by citizens to prevent violence to themselves and others. Guns are a force for good in the hands of law abiding citizens.
Reply By VeronicaS VeronicaS | about 1 year ago
As you rightfully said, every day guns are used by America's citizens so why do we need a new ambiguous law that can be dangerous?
Posted By TruthSeeker427 TruthSeeker427 | about 1 year ago
How to prevent physical violence:
Police don't prevent violence. They enforce laws.
Laws don't prevent violence. They only suggest jail time after the violence.

So what can prevent physical violence being committed on you?
your MP3, your phone, your keys,your money,your driver licence,...
none of these tools will prevent your being a victim,..

but a small legally concealed carry handgun will prevent you being hurt or killed,...
Why is this truth so hard to accept,..
Posted By atifji75 atifji75 | about 1 year ago
Well Written And Nice Presentation. Thanks for sharing. Rated up
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